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Nov 26 2011, 10:03 PM
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![]() Learning Guitar Hero ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1.178 Joined: 10-September 11 From: Big Lake, Alaska Member No.: 13.839 |
So yeah how do you like it? I would imagine most people have it pretty low but I remember hearing before from a player that he liked his a little higher. Also, Is there a such thing as too low? I mean aside from the obvious fret buzz and notes dying out when you bend them is there a con or disadvantage to having an extremely low string action?
On both of my guitars the action is pretty close to the same,It graduates from just slightly higher than the thickness of a buisiness card at the first fret to just slightly higher than the thickness of a credit/debit card at the last fret, A Jim Dunlop jazz III pick wont quite fit between the string and fret at the last fret. (sorry I dont have a micrometer Thanks! Rich..... -------------------- ![]() |
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Nov 26 2011, 10:31 PM
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Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 4.545 Joined: 15-October 08 From: Belgrade,Serbia Member No.: 6.085 |
I'm trying to set it as low as possible when playing alive, but when it comes to recording I have to raise action a bit, damn Sonar marks each fret buzz !!
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Nov 27 2011, 12:44 AM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.341 |
Action is set depending on the way a player plays. If a player likes to bang the strings and has increased dynamic range, it would be best to raise it a bit. If the player is playing fast legato, or AP, and uses light touch, action should be low. It depends on the instrument as well, some axes have better construction, so it's possible to have relatively low action without too much buzzing, somewhere isn't so much possible, specially on some vintage and low quality designs..
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Nov 27 2011, 05:15 AM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1.310 Joined: 23-March 09 From: New Zealand Member No.: 6.965 |
Pick thickness height strings from neck to bridge, with a very slight slope. Aka - low, for light touch / speed. Basically as low as they can go without making a buzz or hitting the frets.
Need a good quality axe as mentioned, but did you know if you have your string perfectly straight they also buzz, so I've heard a small slope or arch is required? |
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Nov 27 2011, 10:42 AM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 6.262 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Member No.: 8.794 |
Ivan nailed it. As I play pretty fast, lots of AP and Legato, I have my action set so low that the strings barely clear the frets when played open. As low as I can get it in other words. But thats just me. Some folks, who really put tons of pressure behind their picking (Stevie Ray Vaughn for example) like it way high. So a lot depends on the player.
So about like you like it is how I like Todd So yeah how do you like it? I would imagine most people have it pretty low but I remember hearing before from a player that he liked his a little higher. Also, Is there a such thing as too low? I mean aside from the obvious fret buzz and notes dying out when you bend them is there a con or disadvantage to having an extremely low string action? On both of my guitars the action is pretty close to the same,It graduates from just slightly higher than the thickness of a buisiness card at the first fret to just slightly higher than the thickness of a credit/debit card at the last fret, A Jim Dunlop jazz III pick wont quite fit between the string and fret at the last fret. (sorry I dont have a micrometer Thanks! Rich..... -------------------- VIDEO CHAT LESSON SATURDAY & SUNDAY!
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Nov 27 2011, 05:45 PM
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![]() Learning Rock Star - Wiki Coordinator ![]() Group: GMC Senior Posts: 6.571 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Spain Member No.: 3.338 |
I like it as low as possible, as long as the string buzz doesn't go through the amp
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Nov 27 2011, 07:48 PM
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Nov 27 2011, 08:40 PM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.341 |
I like it as low as possible, as long as the string buzz doesn't go through the amp Pretty much how it's done! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Nov 27 2011, 09:12 PM
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![]() Learning Roadie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1.368 Joined: 26-October 11 From: Galway, Ireland Member No.: 14.225 |
I've got a pretty heavy picking hand so mine is a fair bit higher than most here, I'm sure it's making my progress in getting speed and decent legato slower, but it gives me the tone I want and I would be buzzing like crazy if I lowered it!
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Nov 28 2011, 10:16 AM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 10.921 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England Member No.: 9.820 |
I would say mine is quite medium.. higher than most shred/metal guys would like it I'm sure
If it's too low I just don't get the control on string bending and vibrato that I want. -------------------- |
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Nov 28 2011, 10:33 AM
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![]() Learning Roadie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 24-June 11 From: Australia Member No.: 13.200 |
I would say mine is quite medium.. higher than most shred/metal guys would like it I'm sure If it's too low I just don't get the control on string bending and vibrato that I want. I think mine is the same mate, I have 3 guitars and i have tried different height on all.....but if its too low, you just cant get into those bending and smooth vibrato licks..... I love to alternate pick, love the sound and similiar with legato t5oo, love it, but, personally, I can't setup the string height too low to "help" with legato or AP as earlier suggested.....Cause I just Lurve to bend and vibrato! -------------------- ![]() |
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Nov 28 2011, 10:46 AM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 10.921 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England Member No.: 9.820 |
I think mine is the same mate, I have 3 guitars and i have tried different height on all.....but if its too low, you just cant get into those bending and smooth vibrato licks..... I love to alternate pick, love the sound and similiar with legato t5oo, love it, but, personally, I can't setup the string height too low to "help" with legato or AP as earlier suggested.....Cause I just Lurve to bend and vibrato! Yeah that's just it -------------------- |
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Nov 28 2011, 10:56 AM
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![]() Learning Roadie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 24-June 11 From: Australia Member No.: 13.200 |
, and you'll be able to work around the rest and make it work. Totally agree! -------------------- ![]() |
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Nov 28 2011, 05:11 PM
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![]() Learning Roadie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4.058 Joined: 9-March 10 From: United States, Arkansas Member No.: 9.801 |
Yup. Low as possible.
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Nov 28 2011, 05:55 PM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 13.560 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest Member No.: 10.636 |
Mine is pretty high! On both drop tuned guitars I'm keeping high action and on the JEM and Custom 24 as low as possible so I can avoid string buzz.
It's pretty darn nasty when the strings are heavy gauged but the tone is nice and I kinda play violently when performing with Voodoo for instance so high action is a good option -------------------- My music:
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Nov 28 2011, 06:32 PM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.341 |
It doesn't mean there is need for very low action for playing fast, it's a misconception. Medium action should be just about enough, this is what works very good for me. For exampe, Muris is one top notch player, but the action on his signature MK was pretty medium. He can handle it for sure.
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Nov 28 2011, 08:17 PM
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![]() Learning Guitar Hero ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1.178 Joined: 10-September 11 From: Big Lake, Alaska Member No.: 13.839 |
Coolness
Thanks! Rich.... This post has been edited by AK Rich: Nov 28 2011, 08:21 PM -------------------- ![]() |
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Nov 28 2011, 08:26 PM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.341 |
I'm doing most of these things, but don't know how to work with frets and nut, I leave that to the guitar tech. For the setups, I'm in charge. When you go to do a setup with guitar tech, he makes the setup, and guitar goes out of specs when I play it, so some fine tuning is always needed. this is why I prefer to do this job myself. Through trial & error I learned. It's not so hard to do a proper setup but only if you have proper tools, otherwise you risk damaging the instrument and making errors.
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Nov 28 2011, 10:14 PM
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![]() Learning Roadie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 846 Joined: 24-June 11 From: Australia Member No.: 13.200 |
I do everything on all 3 of my guitars....except pickup changes....havent done that yet
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Dec 20 2011, 04:53 AM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 4.332 Joined: 21-November 11 From: Los Angeles Member No.: 14.398 |
Low enough, but not too low that it buzzes.
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