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Feb 23 2012, 03:04 PM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 10.921 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England Member No.: 9.820 |
Task 5 : http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-gu...c-metal-rhythm/ Record and upload a version of this lesson by next Thursday 1st March
Greetings Warriors ! We move on from focusing on alternate picking towards rhythm playing now This should be quite a challenge but also in reach for you.. as always, I don't mind if you record using a slower backing track. This is a good test for your hand synch, timing and palm muting. There's also some alternate picking in there too so all of the 4 previous Tasks will have primed you for this. -------------------- |
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Feb 23 2012, 09:39 PM
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![]() Experienced Roadie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 383 Joined: 27-December 10 From: Germany Member No.: 11.900 |
my luck
just recorded something already for cosmin.... some sloppy parts, so I just continue with my practice on this one. maybe you can give me some hints on how to improve my playing those sloppy parts, too. |
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Feb 24 2012, 10:05 AM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 10.921 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England Member No.: 9.820 |
my luck just recorded something already for cosmin.... some sloppy parts, so I just continue with my practice on this one. maybe you can give me some hints on how to improve my playing those sloppy parts, too. Haha, wow can you believe that ?? That's really good man ! The only thing sthat realy need tightening up are some of the changes between chords could be smoother and more direct, like at 0:29 but it's only a small thing. During the very first riffs of the song you're slightly (just slightly) rushing ahead in front of the drums with your chugging rhythm so you could just bring that back a bit to sit in the groove more. Aside from those 2 minor points, that is really, really good and I'm super impressed with that ! I would suggest instead that you tackle the Intermediate Task 5 http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=43172 You can also share your experience and advice with learning this Metal Rhythm lesson with the guys here too -------------------- |
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Feb 24 2012, 10:30 AM
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![]() Experienced Roadie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 383 Joined: 27-December 10 From: Germany Member No.: 11.900 |
Thank you master!
So this was my practice-routine (after tackling all single parts): 1. warm-up 2. play the whole thing at full speed 3. while playing, recognizing problem parts I can't exactly remember or play accurate 4. isolate those parts and make as much repititions to get it as tight as my playing ability allows here a small "video summarization": 2. video - no problem 3. video - problem with chord switches from C5 to open D to E5 (in fact, that was really hard for me, to make this as tight as possible..), sometimes problems with E5 pm-section 4. video - no problem. just played these patterns very slow until memorized, then slowly speed-up. 5. video - no problem 6. video - some problems to switch over from octaves to power chords sometimes.. and I had to make lots of repititions with the chord-switch from D5 to G5. hope this is a little help.. |
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Feb 24 2012, 10:33 AM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 10.921 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England Member No.: 9.820 |
Thank you master! So this was my practice-routine (after tackling all single parts): 1. warm-up 2. play the whole thing at full speed 3. while playing, recognizing problem parts I can't exactly remember or play accurate 4. isolate those parts and make as much repititions to get it as tight as my playing ability allows here a small "video summarization": 2. video - no problem 3. video - problem with chord switches from C5 to open D to E5 (in fact, that was really hard for me, to make this as tight as possible..), sometimes problems with E5 pm-section 4. video - no problem. just played these patterns very slow until memorized, then slowly speed-up. 5. video - no problem 6. video - some problems to switch over from octaves to power chords sometimes.. and I had to make lots of repititions with the chord-switch from D5 to G5. hope this is a little help.. Thanks for your input, isolating your problem areas is the most efficient way to improving ! First we have to notice the problem areas ourselves so it's good that you mentioned this ! -------------------- |
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Feb 24 2012, 07:57 PM
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![]() Learning Apprentice Player ![]() Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 21-April 10 From: France, Lyon Member No.: 10.214 |
Wow great lesson and great take Mad !
I don't know if I'll have the time to learn and practice this one as I am once again going to be travelling far away from my axe until next tuesday, but I'll do my best to post "something" before endline... |
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Feb 24 2012, 09:04 PM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 10.921 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England Member No.: 9.820 |
Wow great lesson and great take Mad ! I don't know if I'll have the time to learn and practice this one as I am once again going to be travelling far away from my axe until next tuesday, but I'll do my best to post "something" before endline... Cool, where are you going ? -------------------- |
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Feb 26 2012, 01:13 PM
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![]() Learning Roadie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 625 Joined: 23-March 07 From: Australia Member No.: 1.403 |
Okey dokey I thought I'd bring this video now for some feed back. I started out feeling confident I could nail this but after seeing Mad's take (awesome mate great tone also) I'm freaking out a bit.
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Feb 26 2012, 02:28 PM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 10.921 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England Member No.: 9.820 |
Okey dokey I thought I'd bring this video now for some feed back. I started out feeling confident I could nail this but after seeing Mad's take (awesome mate great tone also) I'm freaking out a bit. Hey Zoom this is a solid take, nothing to be ashamed of here ! Timing and chord changes are pretty damn good so I'll turn my attention to palm muting, as that's the only area that could do with a real boost. Granted, it's not the most suitable tone for metal so you're not going to be able to get the same results anyway but one tip I'd recommend for you is to practice changing between notes or chords that are cleanly played (no muting) and notes or chords that are muted. After you've played a clean chord, immediately bring the part of your hand that mutes back onto the strings without delay... Effectively, you'll be moving the side of your hand off and back on the strings whenever you need the difference in sound. When I do it, I find that I kind of flick my hand at the wrist whilst I pull the hand away from the strings to get the clean accented bits and then I just quickly bring it back to the strings. Takes practice of course but it's an essential feature of rhythm playing so it's worth getting the control over your muting -------------------- |
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Feb 27 2012, 12:41 PM
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![]() Learning Roadie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 625 Joined: 23-March 07 From: Australia Member No.: 1.403 |
Thanks Ben will get onto that. Totally agree my muting needs work. Cheers
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Feb 28 2012, 08:20 PM
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![]() Learning Apprentice Player ![]() Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 21-April 10 From: France, Lyon Member No.: 10.214 |
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Feb 28 2012, 08:37 PM
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![]() Experienced Roadie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 383 Joined: 27-December 10 From: Germany Member No.: 11.900 |
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Feb 29 2012, 11:28 AM
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![]() Learning Apprentice Player ![]() Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 21-April 10 From: France, Lyon Member No.: 10.214 |
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Feb 29 2012, 11:50 AM
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![]() Experienced Roadie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 383 Joined: 27-December 10 From: Germany Member No.: 11.900 |
That was exactly my main prob, too
The only thing that helped me was noodling this specific chord change down: start very slowly from c powerchord to open d and then back and forth, until your fingers will memorize the change and find their way, then speed up. And don't get disappointed when it first works and a few hours or a day later it won't.. your fingers will have to learn it again and again, until the process of changing between these two chords won't take a long time anymore (this may take a few days or a week sometimes to get this floating when starting to play..). Good to know, that the other parts are OK - so you're in time with this task Right now my main concern is to be able to do that swift change to D chord in part 2
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Feb 29 2012, 12:13 PM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 10.921 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England Member No.: 9.820 |
Hey Olivier, don't worry too much if you don't have time to do this Task. Everybody is allowed a life (but only just..) and you don't have to do every single Task, you can choose how much you do and when.. so there's no pressure ok ?
However, Mad's advise is very good and I would also encourage this. Just single out the problem areas and train them at a manageable easy rate -------------------- |
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Feb 29 2012, 03:24 PM
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![]() Learning Apprentice Player ![]() Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 21-April 10 From: France, Lyon Member No.: 10.214 |
Thanks for these helpful tips
It's good to feel supported in times of trouble I will not be moving far away from my guitar this week so I'll go on practicing with this task while waiting for the next. |
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Mar 27 2012, 01:22 AM
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![]() GMC:er ![]() Group: Members Posts: 47 Joined: 26-May 11 From: Mississippi, USA Member No.: 12.911 |
OK my week's up. The take is a little slower at 127 bpm. And still plenty sloppy.
I worked hard on it though. That palm muting is tricky stuff. |
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Mar 27 2012, 09:23 AM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 10.921 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England Member No.: 9.820 |
Yo, MR !
Nicely done, you got the main gist of it. I'm not sure if metal is really something you play so if it's not, you did a great job The picking/muting side was quite strong and it was mainly the left hand which contained errors. One thing that helps me to keep chords sounding staccato and nicely chopped off when they've been played is to release my fingers off of the strings after I've played the chord. This prevents the strings ringing longer than I want them too. Another thing I noticed is that when playing those 2 note minor/major diad shapes like at 0:47, you kept your index finger fretting the A string and tried to use the underside of your index finger to fret the D string. Try to avoid this as it will make your job more difficult - you'll find it harder to fret the notes cleanly. Instead, you'll have to swap your fingers around.. it's kind of like a direct opposite swap. You go from the power chord shape (index on A string, ring finger on D) to the diad shape (index on D, ring on A). So, although it seems like more work, ultimately it will make things much easier and improve your finger shifting to boot ! -------------------- |
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Jan 20 2013, 07:49 PM
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![]() Learning Roadie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 23-October 11 From: Spain Member No.: 14.207 |
Hi Ben. Here is my new rec. I know there are some mistakes in it. It has been really difficult to me to record this vid.
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Jan 20 2013, 08:04 PM
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![]() Instructor ![]() Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 10.921 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England Member No.: 9.820 |
Hi Ben. Here is my new rec. I know there are some mistakes in it. It has been really difficult to me to record this vid. Hail, Alex.. great take !! Ok, only some minor issues as you already probably know That is ONE HEAVY TONE !! Bass is a bit excessive in your mix.. but still an enjoyable take - keep riffing my friend ! -------------------- |
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