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Ben Higgins
post Mar 1 2012, 02:16 PM
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Task 6 : http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-gu...hm-with-triads/

Greetings warriors ! You've been impressing me lately with your consistent brilliance and I'm looking forward to more of that with this Task. We're continuing the theme of rhythm with a more hard rock, Led Zeppelin type feel which will be good for you to work your chord shifting and timing again.

Don't worry about playing the solo at 0:36 unless you really want to. I'll be happy with just the rhythm parts ok ? smile.gif

Make sure you warm up those hands before practising... the icy winds around here really do take an effect ! ph34r.gif


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post Mar 1 2012, 02:50 PM
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If I master this lesson sensei.. man, that would be somewhat cool!
Back to practice.. before the icy winds catch me...
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post Mar 1 2012, 03:42 PM
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Wow. This one is really cool too. I might try and double it up this week and do a little crossover training.


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post Mar 2 2012, 02:28 AM
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Cool Ben. Palm muting here I come. I really want to work on my rhythm playing big time. smile.gif
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post Mar 2 2012, 09:37 AM
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Awesome.. nice one, guys.. glad you're up to the challenge ! We're gonna show those Intermediate and Advanced groups how it's done, right ?? cool.gif


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post Mar 3 2012, 06:03 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Mar 2 2012, 09:37 AM) *
Awesome.. nice one, guys.. glad you're up to the challenge ! We're gonna show those Intermediate and Advanced groups how it's done, right ?? cool.gif


Yeah right? This is the tricky little no.

I've just got it down now so now to get it sounding 70% as good as Joe. I'm loving playing this groove, it feels great to play.
I'm amazed at how relaxed and fluid Joe plays. There's no tension,in his hands. Something to aim for.
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post Mar 3 2012, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (zoom @ Mar 3 2012, 06:03 PM) *
I'm amazed at how relaxed and fluid Joe plays. There's no tension,in his hands. Something to aim for.


I totally agree smile.gif

The three strings vibrato at the beginning is quite tricky as well. I tend to make a buzz with my index finger on the B string when trying this out and am working on finding the right left hand position to do it right.
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post Mar 4 2012, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE (Olivier777 @ Mar 3 2012, 06:27 PM) *
I totally agree smile.gif

The three strings vibrato at the beginning is quite tricky as well. I tend to make a buzz with my index finger on the B string when trying this out and am working on finding the right left hand position to do it right.


I just started to practice this lesson and have exactly the same prob laugh.gif
Did you figured something out on that?
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post Mar 5 2012, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE (mad @ Mar 4 2012, 08:17 PM) *
I just started to practice this lesson and have exactly the same prob laugh.gif
Did you figured something out on that?


That is quite tricky. Try to keep your index finger covering the B string but focus most of the vibrato on the D and G strings. It only has to be subtle smile.gif


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post Mar 5 2012, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (mad @ Mar 4 2012, 09:17 PM) *
I just started to practice this lesson and have exactly the same prob laugh.gif
Did you figured something out on that?


I am starting to get it now, I had to somehow rotate my finger a tiny bit to find the correct positionning. My index finger is in pain from practicing this thought, but as one smart a** would say : "No pain no gain !!"

As I was doing a cover of this lesson, I realized its a drop D tuning lesson ! tongue.gif I understand why I don't sound exactly like him at the end of the lesson ! One another stupid mistake I made while recording myself at the end of the intro was to turn the volume knob in the wrong direction which really does'nt get the job done. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE (Olivier777 @ Mar 5 2012, 05:23 PM) *
One another stupid mistake I made while recording myself at the end of the intro was to turn the volume knob in the wrong direction which really does'nt get the job done. rolleyes.gif


Yeah it has kind of a 'counter volume' effect !! laugh.gif laugh.gif



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post Mar 6 2012, 05:42 PM
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Here is my cool but modest take on this one cool.gif
Timing is not perfect, as for muting and vibrato but I must say I worked hard to achieve this in just a week !

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post Mar 6 2012, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE (Olivier777 @ Mar 6 2012, 04:42 PM) *
Here is my cool but modest take on this one cool.gif
Timing is not perfect, as for muting and vibrato but I must say I worked hard to achieve this in just a week !



Hey Olivier, thank you for your take ! smile.gif

As ever, I'm enjoying the view of The Temple behind you... wink.gif

I'll start with the criticism first.. your chord changes are a little rushed.. you're moving to the next shapes a little too quickly.

However, the good stuff is that you managed that chord vibrato really well, it sounds very authentic !

Tone is also good.. so it was just timing issues really. If you had a longer time with it I've no doubt that you would relax into the groove a lot more. smile.gif


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post Mar 8 2012, 01:30 PM
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Hey Ben and fellow Bushido apprentices

I really dig Joes playing and have really enjoyed this challenge. So I felt I had to work pretty hard on this just to play it. Recording this and
listening back I soon realized it was harder again to pull off. Timing has to be spot on and I think I struggled rushing ahead in a few places also the vibrato is crucial also. Mine needs work.
So what I trying to say sensei Ben is I need my fingers and toes to stay in the game so I hope this is good enough.
Your humble apprentice zoom. smile.gif

http://soundcloud.com/zoomify/rock-rhythm-with-triads
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post Mar 8 2012, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (zoom @ Mar 8 2012, 12:30 PM) *
Hey Ben and fellow Bushido apprentices

I really dig Joes playing and have really enjoyed this challenge. So I felt I had to work pretty hard on this just to play it. Recording this and
listening back I soon realized it was harder again to pull off. Timing has to be spot on and I think I struggled rushing ahead in a few places also the vibrato is crucial also. Mine needs work.
So what I trying to say sensei Ben is I need my fingers and toes to stay in the game so I hope this is good enough.
Your humble apprentice zoom. smile.gif

http://soundcloud.com/zoomify/rock-rhythm-with-triads


Hey Zoom, well done my friend, there is nothing wrong with this offering ! smile.gif

You've already said about the timing being rushed in a couple of places but the technique itself is really good and you've got a good tone here too. The opening notes ring out like crystal ! cool.gif

Everybody in the Beginner group keeps their fingers and toes this week !


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post Mar 16 2012, 11:40 AM
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Master, I'm too late for this - I know. Please accept my apologies, this lesson got me hours and more hours of practicing the correct muting between the chord-shapes - and still it isn't perfect. I'm working on the solo, too. Here's my take:



I'm trying to upload my take for Task7 asap!
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post Mar 16 2012, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE (mad @ Mar 16 2012, 10:40 AM) *
Master, I'm too late for this - I know. Please accept my apologies, this lesson got me hours and more hours of practicing the correct muting between the chord-shapes - and still it isn't perfect. I'm working on the solo, too. Here's my take:



I'm trying to upload my take for Task7 asap!


Guten Morgen !! smile.gif

Hey this is really good, I like your chord shifting... the practice time has paid off, I would say smile.gif

I shall look forward to Task 7


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post Mar 29 2012, 12:11 AM
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Hello Sensei, mid-week report here. (And a late introduction)

Well when I first tried this task, the timing took me a little while to grasp. I had to spend quite a bit of time at 50 bpm to get a feel for it.
I didn't think I was going to be able to speed it up much, but after a couple days it started to fall into place and now I can play it at the
original bpm (although not very tight). It's a good feeling. smile.gif

In the beginning part, when going from the F-triad 10th fret to the F-triad 5th fret, I noticed I wanted to bar that index finger again
(as you had commented on in task 5). So I isolated that chord change until I got more comfortable with just using my finger tips.
Also during the faster part with the F-triad on the 1st fret, I was keeping my fingers down and trying to mute everything with my
right palm. Raising those left fingers (as you had also commented on in task 5), really helped in cleaning up that part. Even though
it still needs practice.

Since I'm in the 40's club, I guess I'm old school rock. smile.gif My favorite band growing up was Deep Purple. And I liked
Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, etc...
And being raised mostly in Mississippi, I also enjoyed Southern Rock and of course The Blues.
I did live in Spain during the mid 80's for a while, and had some good friends in Punk bands. From them I learned to appreciate
and enjoy the Dead Kennedys, Ramones, etc... Nowadays I like a diverse range of music from Opeth to Them Crooked Vultures to
some of the old geezers new stuff like the latest from Robin trower.

Since I was young, I always wanted to play guitar. I pretty much always had a guitar around, but never could devote much time to it.
About 13 years ago, I started taking lessons for 6 months and then lost my job and had to quite because of the lack of funds.
So here I am now ready to finally pursue this life-long dream of mine. It's a life-style change and I'm going for it.
Also would like to say this site has really impressed me with the positive, friendly, and inspirational vibe that it has.
And thanks, Sensei Ben, for the mentoring that you have thus far given me.

I found interesting your Martial Arts angle. Looking back, the two life-styles I would have liked to have been enveloped in from a
young age would of been music and martial arts. I did take some Karate as an early teen and some Kung Fu about 14 years ago...

Anyways, enough jabbering smile.gif , back to my icy corner to practice.
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post Mar 29 2012, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE (MossRoller @ Mar 28 2012, 11:11 PM) *
Hello Sensei, mid-week report here. (And a late introduction)

Well when I first tried this task, the timing took me a little while to grasp. I had to spend quite a bit of time at 50 bpm to get a feel for it.
I didn't think I was going to be able to speed it up much, but after a couple days it started to fall into place and now I can play it at the
original bpm (although not very tight). It's a good feeling. smile.gif

In the beginning part, when going from the F-triad 10th fret to the F-triad 5th fret, I noticed I wanted to bar that index finger again
(as you had commented on in task 5). So I isolated that chord change until I got more comfortable with just using my finger tips.
Also during the faster part with the F-triad on the 1st fret, I was keeping my fingers down and trying to mute everything with my
right palm. Raising those left fingers (as you had also commented on in task 5), really helped in cleaning up that part. Even though
it still needs practice.

Since I'm in the 40's club, I guess I'm old school rock. smile.gif My favorite band growing up was Deep Purple. And I liked
Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, etc...
And being raised mostly in Mississippi, I also enjoyed Southern Rock and of course The Blues.
I did live in Spain during the mid 80's for a while, and had some good friends in Punk bands. From them I learned to appreciate
and enjoy the Dead Kennedys, Ramones, etc... Nowadays I like a diverse range of music from Opeth to Them Crooked Vultures to
some of the old geezers new stuff like the latest from Robin trower.

Since I was young, I always wanted to play guitar. I pretty much always had a guitar around, but never could devote much time to it.
About 13 years ago, I started taking lessons for 6 months and then lost my job and had to quite because of the lack of funds.
So here I am now ready to finally pursue this life-long dream of mine. It's a life-style change and I'm going for it.
Also would like to say this site has really impressed me with the positive, friendly, and inspirational vibe that it has.
And thanks, Sensei Ben, for the mentoring that you have thus far given me.

I found interesting your Martial Arts angle. Looking back, the two life-styles I would have liked to have been enveloped in from a
young age would of been music and martial arts. I did take some Karate as an early teen and some Kung Fu about 14 years ago...

Anyways, enough jabbering smile.gif , back to my icy corner to practice.


This is great ! It's nice to get to know a bit more about you. Yeah, sometimes the 'right' set of circumstances have to come along to push us into doing the thing we really want to do.. so well done for grabbing the bull by the horns and doing it. smile.gif

That's interesting to know about the martial arts.. I always wanted to do it as a kid but didn't have the confidence. In some ways I'm not sure I would have stuck with it or appreciated it at the time anyway so I'm always quite impressed with really young people who choose to go into something like that. I've since found that it doesn't matter what age you start.. people start in their 40's, 50's, even 60's and people do it for different reasons, a lot of people do it mainly to stay healthy which is as good a reason as any and they stay with it whereas young people may start and have all the fitness, flexibility etc but they give up.. so maybe it might be something else you could think about taking up again ? Never too late to live the life you always wanted to live smile.gif

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Ok, here's my attempt at task 6.
I'm experimenting with some of those Tortex Pitch Black 1.14mm picks.
So far, i'm really liking the pointy tip, but I was little surprised by how small they are.
I think I can get used to it though. It seems it's the bigger picks that I usually have
trouble getting comfortable with. (like the regular Tortex)

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