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Ben Higgins
post Apr 17 2012, 12:14 PM
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As I was sat in front of the computer this morning, I decided to pick up the guitar and do a few perfect reps of a type of lick that I'm working on at the moment. The lick itself is 3 notes so one rep is completed in under a second.

After doing 100 I thought, hey why not try for 1000 ?

I forgot to time it but it probably took less than 10 mins to do 1000. I would do 100 at a time and then stop for a about 10, 20 seconds in between. The hardest part is keeping focus and not losing count. They way I do it is to count 10, then picture a big 10 in front of me. I then count the next 10 and then picture a big 20 in front of me. This way I can keep track of which multiple of 10 I'm on but never have to count higher than 10. Let's face it, have you tried counting 21, 22, 23, 24 etc ??? wink.gif

It's hard to keep count and stray thoughts will intrude. If I get unsure I just add another 10 reps to be on the safe side.

After I did 1000, I thought why not try doing it with some of the other shapes that I'm working on. Well, almost an hour later I've done 3000 reps in total ! During the last 300 reps of the last shape (which involved a massive stretch for the left hand) things got a lot harder so I slowed down a bit to make sure I could maintain the quality. However, it feels good to have done it and it didn't take that long. I even made a cup of tea in between ! tongue.gif

I think everyone should do something like this at least once a month, just to prove it to yourself that you can.. and get some serious quality reps in of something that you're learning at the same time. What do you think ? We can share our 1000 rep experiences whenever we do them.




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post Apr 17 2012, 01:21 PM
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Pretty Good idea... I do something similar...
Do you still have a "day off" every now and then, to give the fingers a rest from serious repetition training like that?


I found it helps....
I have noticed that the next day when you pick up the guitar it does feel like you have a better "grip" on the strings when you play the lick you had practised... I think it's a mental thing too. cool.gif

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post Apr 17 2012, 03:07 PM
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I haven't done them in a row but it feels like I have done Sinisa's "Harmonic Key Changes" 1000 times! laugh.gif


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post Apr 17 2012, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Apr 17 2012, 01:21 PM) *
Pretty Good idea... I do something similar...
Do you still have a "day off" every now and then, to give the fingers a rest from serious repetition training like that?


Oh yeah, I wouldn't do this every day at all. Although....... wink.gif

I think this would be a good thing for everyone to do with a particular lick or something that they want to get down. Maybe even once a week try and give yourself the goal of doing 1000 reps ??


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post Apr 17 2012, 07:16 PM
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smile.gif you just gave me some food for thought mate smile.gif thanks!

I will try this for a particularly sensitive lick in my next lesson tongue.gif


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post Apr 19 2012, 04:11 PM
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Well, over the last 3 days I've done thousands of reps of different licks. I know I was saying that it would be good to do something like that every now and then but you know what it's like, sometimes you just can't resist ! wink.gif

Depending on the length of the lick, it took me between 30 mins for some and the last load took me 40-45 mins. I focused on 4 different licks so that's 4,000 reps in total. I definitely feel the benefits from it.

I'm also doing these free time with no metronome and letting my hands dictate the pace according to how warmed up/tired they are. I always find that things seem to bed in and flow a bit better around 600 reps, I don't know why.

Has anyone else braved the mighty 1000 yet ???




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post Apr 20 2012, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Apr 20 2012, 12:41 AM) *
Well, over the last 3 days I've done thousands of reps of different licks. I know I was saying that it would be good to do something like that every now and then but you know what it's like, sometimes you just can't resist ! wink.gif

Depending on the length of the lick, it took me between 30 mins for some and the last load took me 40-45 mins. I focused on 4 different licks so that's 4,000 reps in total. I definitely feel the benefits from it.

I'm also doing these free time with no metronome and letting my hands dictate the pace according to how warmed up/tired they are. I always find that things seem to bed in and flow a bit better around 600 reps, I don't know why.

Has anyone else braved the mighty 1000 yet ???



Hey Mate I have expieranced this too.

Im laying down a stopwatch for 30mins and running through AP licks and fragments and then I do the same with legato, same scale same fragments etc. I also find that after about 20mins, after you feel a bit of a burn, in your fingers/hand everything does flow alot better. Similiar to the way your body works at excercise, after a decent period of warmup and gradually increasing speed. This works for me, dunno about anyone else though....

One other reason i don't use a metronome all the time is when I am playing for endurance.... Paying close attention to the sounds of the notes as my hand loses it's form due to fatigue, taking note of the work rate compared to how quickly i fatigue...

I will attempt to count reps tonight when I am doing it, most likely my mind will be distracted and I will get annoyed.... Haha laugh.gif
We'll see cool.gif

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post Apr 20 2012, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Apr 20 2012, 07:11 AM) *
One other reason i don't use a metronome all the time is when I am playing for endurance.... Paying close attention to the sounds of the notes as my hand loses it's form due to fatigue, taking note of the work rate compared to how quickly i fatigue...


Yes, that's a good way of putting it and is one of the benefits of playing without a metro and just focusing on the actual sound and quality rather than just pace smile.gif


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post Apr 22 2012, 09:47 PM
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My wife would knock me out with chloroform if i try so many reps ... biggrin.gif
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post Apr 23 2012, 05:50 AM
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Spiff! I've done something similar when learning new bits. I usually dont' count but that would work too smile.gif I typically would probably time a given lick played against a metronome or backing, played say 10 times. Say it takes 30 seconds to play the lick 10 times. At that point, I know on minute is 20 reps, ten minutes is 200 reps, 50 minutes is 1000 reps.

So at that point, you can put on a movie or something and start a timer set for 50 minute and start the backing track or metronome. A backing will loop in your daw, and metronome will just get keep going so you can just let it play. I found it a bit easier as tracking the count was always tricky. But really whatever works!

The tough bit for me was to not lose track of proper form at some point so you have to practice keeping focus. I've found simple repetition to be a brilliant way to build basic muscle memory and such. Of course, it's just one bit of a very large puzzle but getting that bit down can really help the other bits IMHO smile.gif

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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Apr 17 2012, 07:14 AM) *
As I was sat in front of the computer this morning, I decided to pick up the guitar and do a few perfect reps of a type of lick that I'm working on at the moment. The lick itself is 3 notes so one rep is completed in under a second.

After doing 100 I thought, hey why not try for 1000 ?

I forgot to time it but it probably took less than 10 mins to do 1000. I would do 100 at a time and then stop for a about 10, 20 seconds in between. The hardest part is keeping focus and not losing count. They way I do it is to count 10, then picture a big 10 in front of me. I then count the next 10 and then picture a big 20 in front of me. This way I can keep track of which multiple of 10 I'm on but never have to count higher than 10. Let's face it, have you tried counting 21, 22, 23, 24 etc ??? wink.gif

It's hard to keep count and stray thoughts will intrude. If I get unsure I just add another 10 reps to be on the safe side.

After I did 1000, I thought why not try doing it with some of the other shapes that I'm working on. Well, almost an hour later I've done 3000 reps in total ! During the last 300 reps of the last shape (which involved a massive stretch for the left hand) things got a lot harder so I slowed down a bit to make sure I could maintain the quality. However, it feels good to have done it and it didn't take that long. I even made a cup of tea in between ! tongue.gif

I think everyone should do something like this at least once a month, just to prove it to yourself that you can.. and get some serious quality reps in of something that you're learning at the same time. What do you think ? We can share our 1000 rep experiences whenever we do them.



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post Apr 23 2012, 06:30 AM
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that's pretty much how I practiced getting my 110 up to 135 doing speed drills. I didn't keep count, but I went for burn-out every night as my last routine. Takes about 1.5 to 2 minutes to get the "burn". And I was doing it every night ~ I haven't felt any warning signs of injury doing this, so it' different for everyone I'm sure, but I rather enjoy the "burn-out" feeling, just like a good day's workout at the gym.



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post Apr 23 2012, 10:31 AM
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Yeah, keeping count is not for everyone and it is really taxing mentally. However, I'm enjoying the challenge of building my focus day by day. Sometimes you'll find yourselves thinking about other things and also you'll get sometimes where a few dodgy reps will slip in but the challenge is definitely more of a mental one for me.

I also feel a huge sense of achievement with knowing how many reps I've done as opposed to playing for a set amount of time but either way works smile.gif


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