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michaelwalker
post Apr 22 2012, 08:19 PM
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I always to have a really cool but easy riff to play to impress people, anyone got one, you know teh one that always impressed you when a buddy's friend came over with him and played it and you said, man I wish I could do that?/
that's what I want, I learn scales but never seem to put together a cool riff of my own, anyone got any tabs to those cool riffs??

Which scale is the best, seems everyone is confusing me on this, G major, then a minor, then ??

I just want a really cool classic rock riff..


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post Apr 22 2012, 08:53 PM
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Maybe something like this .. biggrin.gif

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post Apr 22 2012, 08:53 PM
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I almost always start my way off on rehearsals or gigs warming up with Iron Maiden's The Wicker Man or Deep Purple's Burn riff biggrin.gif It's just simple and in your face wink.gif

I'd love to shoot all the metal riffs that come to my mind right now, but since you ask for classic rock, you can try Zeppelin's Black Dog... or Rainbow's Man on the Silver Mountain... Simple yet very very effective! smile.gif Also, Bad to the Bone riff is pretty badass too biggrin.gif

Actually, I found this site where you have lots of material to choose from smile.gif
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_guitarriff.html

About scales... well, there isn't such thing as the 'best' scale mellow.gif There are scales which are used more than others, but that shouldn't limit you because you can always find a song in a different scale (key), so you should know how they are formed. smile.gif

Without going too much in theory, I'll just say that when you know one major scale, you pretty much know all of the major scales because you just change the position of that scale. smile.gif If you want more detail about that just let me know wink.gif

And when you know one minor scale, you can quickly generate all of them! So, the good news are - you only need to learn 2 scales - major and minor scale, and you can play a HUGE number of songs biggrin.gif

To make it even easier - There is a relationship between major and minor scales too! But I won't go into that for now, I'd just recommend you to check this out if you want to learn more about scales:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Beginn...-C-Major-Scale/

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post Apr 22 2012, 09:19 PM
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Actually, I found this site where you have lots of material to choose from smile.gif
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_guitarriff.html

About scales... well, there isn't such thing as the 'best' scale mellow.gif There are scales which are used more than others, but that shouldn't limit you because you can always find a song in a different scale (key), so you should know how they are formed. smile.gif

Without going too much in theory, I'll just say that when you know one major scale, you pretty much know all of the major scales because you just change the position of that scale. smile.gif If you want more detail about that just let me know wink.gif

And when you know one minor scale, you can quickly generate all of them! So, the good news are - you only need to learn 2 scales - major and minor scale, and you can play a HUGE number of songs biggrin.gif

I liek this idea only need to learn 2 scales, yes please tell me more...so far this is the best answer i ever got..


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post Apr 22 2012, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE (michaelwalker @ Apr 22 2012, 08:19 PM) *
Actually, I found this site where you have lots of material to choose from smile.gif
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_guitarriff.html

About scales... well, there isn't such thing as the 'best' scale mellow.gif There are scales which are used more than others, but that shouldn't limit you because you can always find a song in a different scale (key), so you should know how they are formed. smile.gif

Without going too much in theory, I'll just say that when you know one major scale, you pretty much know all of the major scales because you just change the position of that scale. smile.gif If you want more detail about that just let me know wink.gif

And when you know one minor scale, you can quickly generate all of them! So, the good news are - you only need to learn 2 scales - major and minor scale, and you can play a HUGE number of songs biggrin.gif

I liek this idea only need to learn 2 scales, yes please tell me more...so far this is the best answer i ever got..


Well, there's much more to scales than this simplified view I posted, but for starters it will do fine smile.gif

I made these two for you using GMC's scale generator.

This is the A major scale:



This is the C major scale:



Now tell me, do you notice any similarities? biggrin.gif See for yourself wink.gif

This is A minor scale:



And this is C minor scale:



Now compare the first two scales and tell me your observations smile.gif Then compare the last two scales and again, tell me what you noticed!

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post Apr 22 2012, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (Dinaga @ Apr 22 2012, 08:39 PM) *
Well, there's much more to scales than this simplified view I posted, but for starters it will do fine smile.gif

I made these two for you using GMC's scale generator.

This is the A major scale:



This is the C major scale:



Now tell me, do you notice any similarities? biggrin.gif See for yourself wink.gif


They are the same shapes different Fret locations is all

This is A minor scale:



And this is C minor scale:



Now compare the first two scales and tell me your observations smile.gif Then compare the last two scales and again, tell me what you noticed!



And by the way the Scorpions is my Favorite Band...I have the original Animal Magnetism album from Germany...

Love your scorpions, it is my Dream to play their music..


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post Apr 22 2012, 11:13 PM
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They are the same shapes different Fret locations is all


Yup, that's right smile.gif Now you know the major and minor scale!
The next step is to learn more than just one shape!





Et cetera et cetera...
It's all same notes - the same C major scale, just in different positions. smile.gif After you practice the positions, at the end you should be able to connect everything and see the full picture:



You love Scorpions? Then check out Ben's lessons - lots of awesome Scorpions material there! With enough practice and dedication you can play 'em wink.gif
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Ben-Higgins/

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post Apr 22 2012, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE (Dinaga @ Apr 22 2012, 10:13 PM) *
Yup, that's right smile.gif Now you know the major and minor scale!
The next step is to learn more than just one shape!





Et cetera et cetera...
It's all same notes - the same C major scale, just in different positions. smile.gif After you practice the positions, at the end you should be able to connect everything and see the full picture:



You love Scorpions? Then check out Ben's lessons - lots of awesome Scorpions material there! With enough practice and dedication you can play 'em wink.gif
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Ben-Higgins/


I think this is where I get lost, what do I do now..How do I make my own riff out of that..


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post Apr 23 2012, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE (michaelwalker @ Apr 22 2012, 10:18 PM) *
I think this is where I get lost, what do I do now..How do I make my own riff out of that..


Well the simplest answer I can give on that is - play with the notes in the scale a combine them using different techniques. That's called phrasing. smile.gif It's not an easy task - but with time you'll be able to create better and better riffs. smile.gif It's a matter of creativity, inspiration, musical knowledge and technique!

You can also listen to music you like and try to find out how those riffs are formed, then try to apply those ideas. smile.gif


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post Apr 23 2012, 06:18 AM
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What about this one?



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post Apr 23 2012, 11:46 AM
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I would go for this one tongue.gif



The intro riff sounds incredibly powerful and optimistic!

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post Apr 23 2012, 12:13 PM
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I keep checking this topic as well. Hmm... I might go with the Aerosmith clip and try that one! Cool!
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post Apr 23 2012, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 23 2012, 10:46 AM) *
I would go for this one tongue.gif



The intro riff sounds incredibly powerful and optimistic!

Cosmin


Can't see it Cosmin, says not available in my Country LOl....can ya fix, I'm curious...

QUOTE (Dinaga @ Apr 22 2012, 11:34 PM) *
Well the simplest answer I can give on that is - play with the notes in the scale a combine them using different techniques. That's called phrasing. smile.gif It's not an easy task - but with time you'll be able to create better and better riffs. smile.gif It's a matter of creativity, inspiration, musical knowledge and technique!

You can also listen to music you like and try to find out how those riffs are formed, then try to apply those ideas. smile.gif


Ok, how bout a Small Riff using those 2 Scales, or one of them?? you got something maybe already made up or simple? an Example would be nice a Tab maybe ?

Thanks for all the help, i'm on it today with those 2 scales, then I got a small e book 99 Rock Riffs.. famous ones and will prqactice those they are like one liners so that should give me some ideas!

Any more awesome Riffs I like the Eat the Rich! and Sprint of the radio even though it Fast.. can't See Cosmin's Lol..so can't say much....lol


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post Apr 23 2012, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE (michaelwalker @ Apr 23 2012, 01:29 PM) *
Ok, how bout a Small Riff using those 2 Scales, or one of them?? you got something maybe already made up or simple? an Example would be nice a Tab maybe ?


OK mate, here it is. We'll be using the scale of E minor, in this position:



And we're going to play Iron Maiden's Hallowed be Thy Name riff.

Here's the tab:



If you have Guitar Pro 5, then download the tab in attachment and try it out. If not, then download the midi so you can listen to the timing of the riff. Notice that the whole riff is entirely inside this E minor shape. smile.gif

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QUOTE (RobinDutchZHero @ Apr 23 2012, 08:13 AM) *
I keep checking this topic as well. Hmm... I might go with the Aerosmith clip and try that one! Cool!



Great! Aerosmith has really cool riffs.

Here you have other ideas:











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QUOTE (Dinaga @ Apr 23 2012, 03:55 PM) *
OK mate, here it is. We'll be using the scale of E minor, in this position:



And we're going to play Iron Maiden's Hallowed be Thy Name riff.

Here's the tab:



If you have Guitar Pro 5, then download the tab in attachment and try it out. If not, then download the midi so you can listen to the timing of the riff. Notice that the whole riff is entirely inside this E minor shape. smile.gif


Ok awesome, I have GP 6 actually..it will work..Man I wish I knew what you did, it sucks starting out at 50, now i'm 51, it's just memory and patience for me, luckilyI am retired now thanks to my business I can practice everyday..if I want to..


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QUOTE (michaelwalker @ Apr 23 2012, 04:20 PM) *
Ok awesome, I have GP 6 actually..it will work..Man I wish I knew what you did, it sucks starting out at 50, now i'm 51, it's just memory and patience for me, luckilyI am retired now thanks to my business I can practice everyday..if I want to..


No problem mate, and don't worry smile.gif It's all about playing what you love, with enough work it will come!


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post Apr 23 2012, 06:48 PM
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You'll make it ..just go easy, try to relax when you learn riffs or licks...plenty of time to learn.
Age doesn't matter at all.... succes with it!
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Classic riffs you say ?

Long Live Rock n Roll by Rainbow ! cool.gif


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