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post Jun 8 2012, 06:52 AM
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She's around 20 in these vids.

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post Jun 8 2012, 06:59 AM
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MOTIVATING !

She spreads out good Energy !

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post Jun 8 2012, 07:25 AM
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I'm trying to look at it in a motivating way, If she can do it so can I with enough practice.


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post Jun 8 2012, 07:37 AM
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Good guitar playing is always motivating. Makes me want to practice more and learn new things.


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post Jun 8 2012, 07:48 AM
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Very motivating. She is an excellent guitarist. And there is always somebody better then you, no matter what age. Technical difficulties is a very difficult song to play. And she has the chops. I hope to hear the whole song from her because the string skip Paul does later in the song is really!!!! hard. She has technique and I see a lot of people who have very good technique. If I was her I would go to college and learn music theory so she can be a well rounded guitarist.

What is sad about this for me is I was working on this song and I was developing Dystonia. Not from learning the song ,but from poor technique. I have not worked on it since switching to playing left hand guitar because my picking is not up to snuff yet.


Do not let this get you down in playing. It should motivate you tp practice more. She has put in her hours and it shows, now put in yours. Remember Steve Vai said he was not a natural talented guitarist so he had to put in more hours than most people. Look where he is now. The face of Ibanez guitar.

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You can do it. If you want the tabs for this song let me know and I will email them to you. When learning this song analyse it as well. Those fast scale runs are fragments from the modes. Perfect practice will get you where you want to be in a short time. If you are a intermediate player, you should be able to learn the song very fast, because if you can pick fast and you have your modes down you are 3/4 of the way learning this song. One of my old guitar istructors will teach you this song bit by bit until you have the whole song down.

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I'm trying to look at it in a motivating way, If she can do it so can I with enough practice.

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post Jun 8 2012, 08:55 AM
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You can definitely do it. smile.gif

As Master Vai says, the only things that's holding us back is the way we're thinking. So if it's physical limitations that you think are holding you back it's not. The ability is already there, locked in the fingers.. it's your mind that decides you're going to practise until you get it out ! smile.gif


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post Jun 8 2012, 10:07 AM
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tbh probably more demotivating for me personally because I tend to have a bit of a battle with that type of mindset. maybe I have an inferiority complex when it comes to guitar playing. It wouldnt make me stop playing or anything like that though.
She is really good.


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post Jun 8 2012, 10:17 AM
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I think I have the slowest fingers in the world, I'm still working hard to get to speeds others had naturally as beginners.

She'd been playing 6 years with the last 2 years studying at Israel's version of Berklee, I think she's now at Berklee or GIT


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post Jun 8 2012, 02:45 PM
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Well, she busted my excuse that you can't play this stuff without a freakishly long little finger like Paul Gilbert...so I am practicing now.

IMO it's really motivating.


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post Jun 8 2012, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE (awat @ Jun 8 2012, 02:48 AM) *
Do not let this get you down in playing. It should motivate you tp practice more. She has put in her hours and it shows, now put in yours. Remember Steve Vai said he was not a natural talented guitarist so he had to put in more hours than most people. Look where he is now. The face of Ibanez guitar.

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By looking at her fretboard, I wonder if she is the original owner of the guitar or maybe handed down to her by her Dad. There's a lot of wear on that board!

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I think I have the slowest fingers in the world, I'm still working hard to get to speeds others had naturally as beginners.

She'd been playing 6 years with the last 2 years studying at Israel's version of Berklee, I think she's now at Berklee or GIT


If the intimidating part of this question is the fact that she is young & a girl, eh, I'm older now & kicked my ego to the curb years ago. God bless her! Besides, if I were intimidated easily, I would have quit after my first subscription ran out. Not only are the instructors here amazing but the members are equally talented & I learn from all of you. I love watching those REC takes & I learn something from everyone of those takes.

I just wish I wasn't so lazy 30 years ago. I wish the desire & passion to learn guitar that I have now could have happened back then.

Cool thread, talented girl & yes, I'm definitely motivated! smile.gif

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post Jun 8 2012, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE (Opetholic @ Jun 8 2012, 06:37 AM) *
Good guitar playing is always motivating. Makes me want to practice more and learn new things.



That's what I would say as well, so yes its motivating for me!


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post Jun 8 2012, 07:04 PM
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Makes away with some of my possible excuses, I find it motivating.


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post Jun 8 2012, 07:26 PM
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100% motivating. Smaller hands than I and she can pull it off. So will I (eventually)

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post Jun 8 2012, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE (ringmar @ Jun 8 2012, 07:26 PM) *
100% motivating. Smaller hands than I and she can pull it off. So will I (eventually)

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post Jun 9 2012, 01:49 AM
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Great post! She RAWKS! I'd hope this would motivate everyone who sees it. We often make excuses to ourselves and it destroys our ability to make progress. She has rather small hands and shorter fingers and being female has a bit less hand strength (not being sexist here, women are built differently) than many of us have and take for granted. She has clearly put in the time in the woodshed and this is the result. I was actually told at the age of 9 that due to a lack of small muscle control, I"d never play guitar or be able to sign my name in legible way, and the shrink was half correct. I still can't sign my name in a legible way smile.gif
But, defiant, borderline crazy persistence has it's rewards.

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I would say the amount of strength required to play even the highest speeds isn't phenomenal, actually I will say its not even remotely impressive, and isn't directly proportional to the actual strength of your hand. Playing fast isn't about being strong, its much more stamina and control, which women have no disadvantage or advantage of. I don't think gender has any bearing whatsoever on ones abilities, except vocals obviously. She plays and practices like any other guitarist, barring any medical or physical illness her muscles will develop like ours, muscle memory, increased endurance, the strength of her hand will increase but its much a secondary effect.

Not to be negative, but I think people put too much thought into female guitarists, there is nothing special about the female part, literally zero. If this was just audio, no one would be remotely impressed. And her age isn't impressive either considering we have infants playing drums, and blind 9 years olds who have seemingly mastered the blues.
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post Jun 9 2012, 04:29 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 9 2012, 12:49 AM) *
But defiant, borderline crazy persistence has it's rewards.


This is a great quote Todd! It sums up my own perspective on practice quite well, mind if I add it to my sig?


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post Jun 9 2012, 05:03 AM
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Look at it this way. If you get demotivated from listening to her play this song because she is a girl and can do it, well some growing up is needed. One day your boss may be a female. When I was in the Airforce, I had several female bosses. It did not bother me one bit. Only thing that mattered to me was can you do the job. Male or Female.

Look at it this way also, 6 years of playing 4 to 6 hours a day. Lot of hours!! now, if you put in that many of hours of focused practice you should be good as well. At the National Guitar Workshop I went to a couple of years ago, there was a 14 year old kid who won the shreds off. He was playing a 8 string guitar. Good God that kid could shred. He had been playing 6 years 3 hours a day and more in the summer time out from school. He said it all came together around his 5th year of playing. He also said some times he would not even play for a week and sometimes 2 weeks. You have to put in the time. Some are naturally gifted to play from the start and advance fast. There are a few short cuts you can do to learn faster nothing more than doing one exercise that kills 2 birds with one stone. But you still have to put in the hours!!!

Its funny what doctors will tell you what you will not be able to do, and if you listen to them you will not be able to do it. If you want to do it you, you will find a way. Tony Iommie (sp) of Black sabath missing 2 finger tips on his fretting hand. Can he play well? heck yes. Django Rheinhardt. Missing 2 fingers on his fretting hand. Can he play? Heck yeah.

I will admit, there has been times I wanted to quit because of Dystonia and I switched to playing left handed. I am not learning as fast as I did in the begining, but I press on and make small progress,but that progress is what keeps me going.

When I first started playing it took me about 8 months to play this piece from Yngwie. It needed more practice, but I was happy do to progress. it is what kept me going then and now. Then I was playing 6 hours a day.

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I was playing like this after 6 months. Lots of practise!!! The second song
My choice in music has changed a lot. I wanted to shred Just like the girl playing Technical difficulties. Now I want to shred like Holdsworth.




Perfect practice= perfect playing and faster

Tony

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post Jun 9 2012, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE (awat @ Jun 9 2012, 05:03 AM) *
One day your boss may be a female. When I was in the Airforce, I had several female bosses. It did not bother me one bit. Only thing that mattered to me was can you do the job. Male or Female.


Yeah, and some of us actually like being bossed around by women ! laugh.gif

Joking aside, great post smile.gif

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I so wished my girlfriend could shred or even play drums. smile.gif


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