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post Jun 23 2012, 10:09 PM
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Hey GMC!

I'm recording an EP happy.gif . I got the main frame for one song. So I was thinking about another song I want to do in the EP. I think the next song would benefit from a boost of 5% gain on the amp head than the other song. I think had plenty of distortion for the song I already have recorded. So is it "wrong" or not going to sound right if I change the sound (drive) a little bit? I'm going to try to keep the same overall tone throughout the EP, but I wanted to make some changes here and there so it sounds a little different. This boost of gain is an example.

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It's these settings I have used for my first song I recorded. The second song I want to record will be in Standard Bb, and I want to bring the gain up to 35%. (It's just because of how I want the song to sound. Just needs a little bit more boost.)

So is this okay to do in an album/EP?


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post Jun 24 2012, 02:21 AM
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post Jun 24 2012, 05:09 AM
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QUOTE (Jesse @ Jun 23 2012, 08:21 PM) *
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post Jun 24 2012, 06:55 AM
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When it comes to this I think there is no right or wrong way to do it. IMO you should treat each song differently and set the appropriate tones and even use different instruments if its going to benefit the song itself. Having that in mind, changing settings on the amp sounds sounds OK. Each song is different and might require a different "formula" for it to sound good.

I understand that you want to keep the similar feel/sound throughout the EP and I guess you are going to accomplish that anyway if you use same "fingers", same studio (recording environment) + possibly have it all mastered by the same person keeping the same feel throughout.


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post Jun 24 2012, 07:12 AM
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Yeah I agree with Bogdan. Just record your songs like you want and leave the volume level/mixing/mastering stuff for the hired guy smile.gif


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post Jun 24 2012, 01:40 PM
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Can't put it better than Bogdan smile.gif treat each song as a different person wink.gif they all look different, have a different message and feel, right?

Creating a homogeneous sound is not done only by using the same tones smile.gif it's a matter of creating a personal touch to your music - this comes with time and writing A LOT! Explore and write, write, write!

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post Jun 24 2012, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE (thefireball @ Jun 23 2012, 10:09 PM) *
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So is this okay to do in an album/EP?


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Short answer - yes.

Longer answer - people use a variety of gutars, amps and amp settings etc when recording more than one track. Some change these mid track. The choice of what to use is a production decison and based on the individual composition and what it needs. Whether or not you need more distortion or not for a particular track - none of us can answer that as none of us have heard it or know what the production intends for it.

Cohesion is something that is usually considered part of mastering. Here it's about ensuring that the entire work sounds like a cohesive entity if so desired. If it is desired it is often more about macro EQ etc rather than micro managing the settings on an indivdual amp.


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post Jun 24 2012, 04:43 PM
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Yeah, go for it Brandon. I often think back to the 2 Megadeth albums that were the most varied tone wise : Cryptic Writings & Risk. They used loads of different tones and effects. The person mixing will have to use their experience to make it work in the overall mix and treat each guitar differently as they have different pickups, slightly different volumes etc but yeah, having different sounds on different tracks seems to have been going since the dawn of recording smile.gif


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post Jun 24 2012, 06:34 PM
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Thanks for the replies, guys. Now I feel more confident. It's kinda scary recording your very first EP. But it is the only way to share with the world what I have got. I may not ever get very popular, but I don't care. As long as a handful of people enjoy what I do, I will be thankful.


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post Jun 24 2012, 06:44 PM
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Your first EP will be one of 30 maybe? laugh.gif

I actually released a full blown "album" a few years ago, something like 2 hours long, 15 songs, artwork and stuff. But its all a learning experience for me. Since that I have done two EP's, I only consider an EP a publicly available collection of songs for analysis and criticisms for the day when I have the proper time and money to do an actual, full album, high quality and everything.

So basically, experiment with anything. I do most things musical with little to no consideration, learned some really cool things, learned some really, REALLY bad things as well laugh.gif
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post Jun 24 2012, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Jun 24 2012, 12:44 PM) *
Your first EP will be one of 30 maybe? laugh.gif

I actually released a full blown "album" a few years ago, something like 2 hours long, 15 songs, artwork and stuff. But its all a learning experience for me. Since that I have done two EP's, I only consider an EP a publicly available collection of songs for analysis and criticisms for the day when I have the proper time and money to do an actual, full album, high quality and everything.

So basically, experiment with anything. I do most things musical with little to no consideration, learned some really cool things, learned some really, REALLY bad things as well laugh.gif


Thanks, Brett. I'm trying to forget the fact that I will probably "hate" my first EP five years down the road. tongue.gif


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post Jun 24 2012, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Jun 24 2012, 06:44 PM) *
... But its all a learning experience ...

Which is true for us all, regardless of time and experience. Anyone who thinks they know it all is deluded.

Back to you though Brett - you've come on a hell of a long way from the early recordings that I remember smile.gif .


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post Jun 24 2012, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jun 24 2012, 12:55 PM) *
Which is true for us all, regardless of time and experience. Anyone who thinks they know it all is deluded.

Back to you though Brett - you've come on a hell of a long way from the early recordings that I remember smile.gif .


And THAT makes me excited knowing that can improve myself too with time.


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post Jun 24 2012, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (thefireball @ Jun 24 2012, 06:58 PM) *
And THAT makes me excited knowing that can improve myself too with time.


Great - and you've also improved a hell of a lot Brandon smile.gif .

It's a long road but as MAo once said - a journey of 1000 miles starts with a single step...


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post Jun 24 2012, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jun 24 2012, 01:08 PM) *
Great - and you've also improved a hell of a lot Brandon smile.gif .

It's a long road but as MAo once said - a journey of 1000 miles starts with a single step...


THANKS, Tony! happy.gif That means a lot coming from you. smile.gif


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post Jun 24 2012, 07:38 PM
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It's true.. you've made some amazing progress here Brandon !

And Brett, you already know how much I admire your level of creativity. I don't know how you do it.. create other worlds and stories. Like the Tolkien of metal biggrin.gif


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post Jun 24 2012, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jun 24 2012, 01:38 PM) *
It's true.. you've made some amazing progress here Brandon !

And Brett, you already know how much I admire your level of creativity. I don't know how you do it.. create other worlds and stories. Like the Tolkien of metal biggrin.gif


Thanks, Ben.

And I totally agree with you on Brett. I'm amazed at the quality of his music! It sounds like it is ready for commercial, if it were mastered. The atmospheres he creates is awesome. There's one song I remember that had a riff so dark and epic I literally loved it.


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QUOTE (thefireball @ Jun 24 2012, 07:43 PM) *
Thanks, Ben.

And I totally agree with you on Brett. I'm amazed at the quality of his music! It sounds like it is ready for commercial, if it were mastered. The atmospheres he creates is awesome. There's one song I remember that had a riff so dark and epic I literally loved it.


Yeah, his production puts me to shame ! smile.gif


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QUOTE (thefireball @ Jun 24 2012, 11:54 AM) *
Thanks, Brett. I'm trying to forget the fact that I will probably "hate" my first EP five years down the road. tongue.gif



Fireball I'd love to hear a sample. What kind of music? biggrin.gif


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