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post Nov 17 2007, 04:40 AM
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Just bought an Ibanex RG370DX. I know the manual (page 20) says to adjust the spring tension to keep the tremolo assembly in parallel with the guitar body, but what part of the tremolo assembly am I supposed to use to line it up. There is an obvious one using the bottom base plate, but I have read where that is wrong.
The manual shows (poorly) that the line is drawn right to the left of the fine tuners. And yes there is a very small area there that I could use as a base for a parallel line to align with the guitar body - is this it? The picture shows the line cutting through a "hump" which is what is confusing me. There is no hump on my RG370.
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QUOTE (WTN @ Nov 16 2007, 10:40 PM) *
Just bought an Ibanex RG370DX. I know the manual (page 20) says to adjust the spring tension to keep the tremolo assembly in parallel with the guitar body, but what part of the tremolo assembly am I supposed to use to line it up. There is an obvious one using the bottom base plate, but I have read where that is wrong.
The manual shows (poorly) that the line is drawn right to the left of the fine tuners. And yes there is a very small area there that I could use as a base for a parallel line to align with the guitar body - is this it? The picture shows the line cutting through a "hump" which is what is confusing me. There is no hump on my RG370.


Sorry if I come across sounding like a prick here but it seems to me that you made two (2) MAJOR mistakes when buying this guitar( I may be wrong).

1: You didn't research the product (well enough) before you bought it.

2: You bought it online instead of in a music store.

I've preached in these forums until the cows come home that you (anyone) really need to do some research before anything is bought, especially music equipment. Research can be online, in chat, in forums, going to a music store and asking questions and most of all "going to a music store and trying out the equipment before buying".

Never ever buy a guitar online (unless you are a tried and true professional who knows what to do in all circumstances) even then don't do it! The main problem is not being able to actually try and compare your guitar against other types/brands of guitars. You also have the fact that you are dealing with a company far away from your home should anything go wrong you have to deal with the problem over the telephone at best. Buying a guitar online usually means that when you get the guitar in, you will have to set the guitar up and then tune it(which seems like the case here). Normally when you buy a guitar in person at a music store they include one free setup and tuning.

I think that should you give it some time and take the road to patience and learning you will find that your Ibanez is a pretty good guitar that sounds really good once it's setup and in tune. It's a steep learning curve at first especially being thrown right into it from the start with a brand new non setup guitar, but as I said, once you get it setup and in tune you will see it's charm.

I myself almost let the fact that a floating tremolo system can be a bear to deal with sway my thought process when I was looking for a new guitar, but when I picked up my guitar (an RG1570 prestige) the first time, I fell in love with it. I could have bought all the way up to a JEM or a Gibson LP Standard model at the time, but knew I wanted the 1570 when I played it.

It's your guitar and obviously you can do with it what you want, but do you really want a piece of hardware to defeat you like this? If you send it back won't you go thru life always wondering what the guitar could have sounded and played like once it was properly set up? Remember once it's setup you just follow a couple of simple rules(don't change more than one string at a time), (never mess with the setup once it's setup and in tune) and you will have a guitar that is always in tune and ready to play whenever you want it for the rest of your life!

Good Luck to you whatever you decide.

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QUOTE (RobM @ Nov 18 2007, 06:14 AM) *
Sorry if I come across sounding like a prick here but it seems to me that you made two (2) MAJOR mistakes when buying this guitar( I may be wrong).

1: You didn't research the product (well enough) before you bought it.

2: You bought it online instead of in a music store.

I've preached in these forums until the cows come home that you (anyone) really need to do some research before anything is bought, especially music equipment. Research can be online, in chat, in forums, going to a music store and asking questions and most of all "going to a music store and trying out the equipment before buying".

Never ever buy a guitar online (unless you are a tried and true professional who knows what to do in all circumstances) even then don't do it! The main problem is not being able to actually try and compare your guitar against other types/brands of guitars. You also have the fact that you are dealing with a company far away from your home should anything go wrong you have to deal with the problem over the telephone at best. Buying a guitar online usually means that when you get the guitar in, you will have to set the guitar up and then tune it(which seems like the case here). Normally when you buy a guitar in person at a music store they include one free setup and tuning.

I think that should you give it some time and take the road to patience and learning you will find that your Ibanez is a pretty good guitar that sounds really good once it's setup and in tune. It's a steep learning curve at first especially being thrown right into it from the start with a brand new non setup guitar, but as I said, once you get it setup and in tune you will see it's charm.

I myself almost let the fact that a floating tremolo system can be a bear to deal with sway my thought process when I was looking for a new guitar, but when I picked up my guitar (an RG1570 prestige) the first time, I fell in love with it. I could have bought all the way up to a JEM or a Gibson LP Standard model at the time, but knew I wanted the 1570 when I played it.

It's your guitar and obviously you can do with it what you want, but do you really want a piece of hardware to defeat you like this? If you send it back won't you go thru life always wondering what the guitar could have sounded and played like once it was properly set up? Remember once it's setup you just follow a couple of simple rules(don't change more than one string at a time), (never mess with the setup once it's setup and in tune) and you will have a guitar that is always in tune and ready to play whenever you want it for the rest of your life!

Good Luck to you whatever you decide.

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I agree with you totally. I have been thinking about these points today. I sure did not know the floating trem system was this hard to tune/setup. But, I hate music stores also, so I decided to buy online. I have not given up yet, although I am close. I think the shim method is the trick. It's rather frustrating to say the least. I have had this RG for 4 days now and have yet to plug it in because it will not tune up correctly.
And yes I feel like an idiot for not being able to figure this out. But I think I am close. Getting the bridge parallel and then tuning it up is not easy - the bridge wants to sink back into the body while one try's to tune the blasted thing - it's like a catch22 that repeats itself over and over.

QUOTE (Understudy @ Nov 18 2007, 06:55 AM) *
I had a point to make here, but I will keep my mouth shut. Good luck getting the Ibanez set up. Floating trems can be daunting at first, but don't let it ruin the new guitar. Most places have fairly competent techs that can have it ready in under an hour for under 50 bucks.


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QUOTE (WTN @ Nov 18 2007, 08:13 AM) *
I agree with you totally. I have been thinking about these points today. I sure did not know the floating trem system was this hard to tune/setup. But, I hate music stores also, so I decided to buy online. I have not given up yet, although I am close. I think the shim method is the trick. It's rather frustrating to say the least. I have had this RG for 4 days now and have yet to plug it in because it will not tune up correctly.
And yes I feel like an idiot for not being able to figure this out. But I think I am close. Getting the bridge parallel and then tuning it up is not easy - the bridge wants to sink back into the body while one try's to tune the blasted thing - it's like a catch22 that repeats itself over and over.
Go ahead. You will not offend me. Make your point.



Don't forget to go here for help:

http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/index.htm

Best place I know of for help in setting up a floating tremolo system. Also try:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1c-7-VMY_w...ted&search=

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjQ3p5Nh7-0

Hope these help?


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- WTN   Ibanez Edge Iii Question   Nov 17 2007, 04:40 AM
- - Pavel   It should look like this:   Nov 17 2007, 06:55 AM
|- - WTN   QUOTE (Pavel @ Nov 16 2007, 11:55 PM) It ...   Nov 17 2007, 08:33 AM
- - Muris   I believe you should make a line with body horizon...   Nov 17 2007, 06:59 AM
- - The Uncreator   The bridge should be paralled with the body. just ...   Nov 17 2007, 08:36 AM
- - WTN   QUOTE (WTN @ Nov 16 2007, 09:40 PM) Just ...   Nov 17 2007, 09:08 AM
|- - botoxfox   QUOTE (WTN @ Nov 17 2007, 01:08 AM) Here....   Nov 17 2007, 03:29 PM
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|- - WTN   QUOTE (WTN @ Nov 17 2007, 04:53 AM) OK - ...   Nov 18 2007, 07:59 AM
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- - kevin-riff-after-riff   right, what you want is to screw the screws in as ...   Nov 18 2007, 04:23 AM
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- - Owen   Tis unfortunate, you might just have been unlucky ...   Nov 18 2007, 09:28 AM
|- - WTN   QUOTE (Owen @ Nov 18 2007, 02:28 AM) Tis ...   Nov 18 2007, 10:19 AM
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