Hello GMC !

Welcome to another in class type collaboration.
I have to say I was really thinking hard what should be your next in class type collaboration. I was analyzing your solos from previous collaborations and noticed that biggest problem in most takes was your phrasing. To be more exact, I am talking about down beat and up beat type rhythm and playing. This lead me to finally create backing track which is suitable for many sorts of solos (which I will talk about later) but we will use it for Straight vs Syncopated soloing !


Ok, so our topic for this in class type collaboration is Straight rhythm vs Syncopated rhythm soloing !

This means that your solo has to contain both types of rhythms.
Straight rhythm is basically if you start on Down beat (1 2 3 4) and play rhythm like Whole, Half, Quarter, Eight and Sixteen notes ! It is essential that your rhythm here doesn't carry over when you are doing this , in other words you are not using any DOTS OR TIES ! (to make things easier for you guys).
Syncopated rhythm is opposite from Straight rhythm. You need to start your phrases on Up beat (one AND two AND three AND four AND - so you start on AND always!). It is also essential that with syncopated rhythm melodies or your solo sounds OF BEAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE !
Another trick to achieve syncopated rhythm is to use TRIPLETS. The best triplet to throw you of is Quarter note triplet !!! You can also use doted rhythms when playing syncopated melodies, in fact I highly recommend you do it (dotted quarters will work wonders here of course!).
Remember that you can also start on up beat and keep playing regular rhythm and it will sound syncopated !!!


I hope this little information and intro was very valuable for you before you start tackling your solos.


Backing track is at 140 bpm and is in A minor.
I used Latin type feel in Bass and Drums with very specific Piano sound. I hope you dig it !

Chord progression is :

// A min / A min / B min7b5/ E7 /
/ A min / A min / B min7b5/ E7 /
/ A min7 Amin6 / A min7 Amin6 / D min7/ G7 /
/ A min / A min / A min (E7#9)/ E7#9 //




Notice how backing track has chords entering before they actually need to appear. This is ANTICIPATION, Syncopated rhythm and Harmonic Displacement !
I moved on purpose some of the chords one eight note earlier.
See if you can spot where chords appear earlier in the chord progression.


About soloing :

- Use arpeggios (if you want and can
- A harmonic Minor is mostly key center
- Over A min7 A min6 you can use A DORIAN MODE (G major scale)
- D min7 G7 part is A aeolian or A natural minor (A minor pentatonic if you want to simplify it)
- E7#9 you can do arpeggios or E altered scale (F melodic minor) as well as E half whole diminished scale.


I hope to hear some cool takes in this one guys. It should be lots of fun and a challenge ( I HOPE!!!).

Deadline for submitting your takes 7th of June ! I have decided to extend the deadline after receiving only couple of takes.

Let me know if you have any questions and need any help !

Enjoy the backing !


Pedja


List of participants :

1) Velvet Roger (auto sign up) - Recorded
2) Tolek (auto sign up)
3) enforcer (auto sign up)
4) wrk (auto sign up) - Recorded
5) Outlaw2112 (auto sign up) - Recorded
6) Jesse (auto sign up)
7) superize
8) berko (auto sign up) - Recorded
9) coffeeman (auto sign up)
10) sted (Recorded)
11) kaznie_NL (auto sign up) - Recorded
12) Caelumattendum - Recorded
13) JVM
14) kjutte (Recorded)
15) JamesT (auto sign up) - Recorded
16) Dexxter - Recorded
17) jdriver - Recorded
18) Oxac - Recorded
19) Pedja Simovic (Recorded)

P.S. I am providing you two guitar pro files, each with rhythm examples for Straight and Syncopated rhythms !
You can also download my solo here and in upload thread !
I included guitar pro file of my solo. Use it for analysis only and to double check your work. I strongly recommend you transcribe it before downloading it.

Lesson in HQ on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN2QN33e9EI&fmt=18

or watch it bellow

Great! This one is going to be a real challenge for me!

Yes !
I also put you on auto sign up for further collabs since you mentioned it on MSN

I will give this a try

Awesome Superize!


I will post my take today or tomorrow so you can get idea of what I am looking for

I'm definitely up for this! You know I need to polish my phrasing quite a bit

This is going to be very interesting.

Haha I was waiting for you to say that !
Great Berko, I am very excited to hear how you will do with this one
You are on the list of course !

Of course I'm in , and please put me in the auto sign up list.

Beautiful backing Pedja.

Yes, I wanted to ask about this too. I would also like to join the auto sign up list.

You are in of course !
Thank you for complimenting backing track - I was worried it would be too much



You are both on auto sign up for all future collaborations from now on

This looks like something really interesting I might give it a go but not sure yet. I'll let you know

Thanks for kind words Emir, you are always welcome of course
Let me know if you get the chance to do it !

I'm in, though I havent got a clue what is expected guess thats called learning the hard way!!

Cool !


I will post now some examples of rhythm for Straight and Syncopated soloing in guitar pro

That will certenly help since dont really understand

Great

I just uploaded 8 bars of different straight rhythm soloing combinations.

Its on the top of the page under backing track, but you can also download it HERE


Edit : In the meanwhile I also posted Syncopated rhythm examples. Check it out on the top of the page or click HERE

I'm in But not with the arpeggios, that's still not my thing

Welcome Kaz !
I am wondering what you will come up with in this one

I'd love to do this one

No problem, you are in

I am in!

Great kjutte!

This is going to be a challenging one..

You know I am around, ask as many questions necessary

you know i will...

thanks

Cool
You welcome!

Great backing Pedja! Will get on a take as soon as I return from holidays (this weekend)

I'm in.

Pedja, I thought you already had me on auto-sign-up for your collabs!

I'm in Pedja

Thanks Roger, glad you like the backing. I will extend the deadline probably so take your time please.



Jim I will put you down for sure, I can't believe I missed your auto sign up post somewhere. It will be great to have you in all future collabs !



Awesome Dexxter, welcome buddy

I have not officially signed up, but i've been playing around with it. Seems simple enough to play to, but the tempo is so fast, I have no idea whether I'm being syncopated or not. Could you hurry up and post your example take. Thanks.

No worries Jeff, I will post something today

Okay, I am in also.

I listened to Kaznie's preliminary take and read your comment, and I understand what you want.

Excellent Jeff !
I will put you down on the list

Guys I just posted my solo for this collaboration.
You can download it HERE or go to very beginning of the thread (next to backing track and guitar pro rhythm examples. Hope you like it !

Sounds wonderful as always Pedja

Thanks a lot Dexxter !
I am doing guitar pro for it today and will finish lesson for it by tomorrow hopefully

I'm in

Awesome
In !

Hey, I just popped in to see what's happening in this thread and I have listened to the solo! I've finished my first take but this one makes it sound... bad I especially liked the intro rhythmic variations and the run at the end. The tone is also very good, it's warm and natural for my ears.

I wanted to rerecord my take anyway because I messed up something with the input signal, there are lots of buzzing. I'll post the corrected one asap!

Thanks Berko, I enjoy intro and ending as well
Take your time with your take, I will extend the deadline by week or so

Guys I just posted guitar pro file of solo I submitted today.


Use it to analyze rhythms and get ideas. I strongly recommend you try to transcribe my solo by ear as it will help you identify those tricky rhythms on your own !


You can download it on the very first page along with backing track and my take.

Here is direct link for it

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&id=15882

Guys I posted Youtube video for my solo, hope that helps as well.

Guys end of month is getting near, please try to submit your takes. I will extend deadline by couple days if you need that extra time.
Thanks

I got Saturday free so i am gonna try and do my take then

Sounds great Ize

Guys I have decided to give you extra week for your takes. So deadline is 7th of June, please try to submit something by then.

I plan to post new collaboration for you very shortly before or after that date so keep an eye out for that as well.

Hey Pedja, I'd like to ask you to auto sign me up

On the other hand, maybe the auto sign-up gives that people who have no time for a collaboration are in one...

thanks... ive been very busy with life stuff lately to pick up the guitar and try to learn something new... If i do have a chance to pick it up ive been soo tired that i just want to jam and play along with some songs i know...
The extra week should help, ill try to get it done by then

No problem Kaz, you are on auto sign up from now on
You were always on deadline for each collab and I really appreciate that man.



Excellent John, glad extra week will help.
I am just worrying how you guys will react on next collab which I will start sometime after the deadline for this one . Hope it won't be too close together