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Gabriel Leopardi
Hi guys! Once again we have a collaboration based on requests. Many of you wanted a lesson inspired by Sabbath so I decided to open a collab based on a genre that was totally influenced by Black Sabbath first albums. I'm talking about Stoner Rock!

This backing track is in A minor and has basically 3 sections. The first one that keeps A5 chord, a second one with a progression based on A5 - G5 - F5 - D5 and then a third part where I keep A5 again. You can use A minor, and also some modes like A Phrygian over the only "A5" sections.

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Tempo: 90 BPM
Deadline: 4th June

Important info: This is an audio collab so I will be expecting two audio files from you in .wav or mp3 (320 kbits) formats. One file that includes your playing with the backing track and another file that only includes your guitar to let me mix it with the other ones. You can post all the takes at this thread. If you use Soundcloud, please remember to allow downloads.

Who is in???
VilleFIN
Oh yeah !
I'm definitely in cool.gif
Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (WeePee @ May 16 2013, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh yeah !
I'm definitely in cool.gif



Cool! You're welcome! smile.gif
dcz702
I'm in.

Exited to get home and do a couple takes. I want to work on modes.
So I'm gonna do some Phrygian solo, this will be my first time using modes other than Ionian and aeolian. So with Phrygian while the Am chord goes for several measures would it be right to solo in fmajor and just call it APhrygian?
Gitarrero
It's not Jonas Brothers...but I'm in anyways. Maybe it's time to get back to real music for a change biggrin.gif
bleez
Hells yeah, Im totally in biggrin.gif

Ive not been able to do a collab for ages but I'll spark a fat doobie and wander into the desert for inspiration wink.gif
Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (dcz702 @ May 16 2013, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm in.

Exited to get home and do a couple takes. I want to work on modes.
So I'm gonna do some Phrygian solo, this will be my first time using modes other than Ionian and aeolian. So with Phrygian while the Am chord goes for several measures would it be right to solo in fmajor and just call it APhrygian?


yes! Both scales have the same notes, but it's important to focus on notes from A minor chord when you are playing A Phrygian. Remember to get the characteristic sound from the mode.

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ May 17 2013, 09:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not Jonas Brothers...but I'm in anyways. Maybe it's time to get back to real music for a change biggrin.gif


hahaha... So you are serious about the Jonas Brothers collab... blink.gif I know what will happen... I will receive threats from Germany.


QUOTE (bleez @ May 17 2013, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hells yeah, Im totally in biggrin.gif

Ive not been able to do a collab for ages but I'll spark a fat doobie and wander into the desert for inspiration wink.gif


Great!! You are welcome! smile.gif
Sensible Jones
I'm in, for sure!!!
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Renan
I'm in! Just wait my great solo to approach!
Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ May 17 2013, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm in, for sure!!!
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


QUOTE (Renan @ May 18 2013, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm in! Just wait my great solo to approach!



Great! Looking forward your takes! smile.gif
VilleFIN
Here's what I have recorded so far...maybe I'm changing something of it. huh.gif huh.gif
I'll send files later Gabe !!

https://soundcloud.com/alfafirefox/stoner-collab
llibach
It's been a while since I recorded a collab take, so here's my attempt to get back into the swing of things.
https://soundcloud.com/llibach/stone-collab-no-back
https://soundcloud.com/llibach/stone-collab
mroberts70
QUOTE (bleez @ May 17 2013, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hells yeah, Im totally in biggrin.gif

Ive not been able to do a collab for ages but I'll spark a fat doobie and wander into the desert for inspiration wink.gif



I'm in with Bleez! LOL! Puff Puff Pass M0T43R F0CK3R!

Just kiddin, but I've always wanted to see the desert... biggrin.gif
Saddlefall
Great tone weepee! I might join this!
Gabriel Leopardi
Awesome!! Thanks WeePee and Llibach for your takes! and welcome mroberts and Saddlefall t othe desert!! biggrin.gif
bleez
QUOTE (mroberts70 @ May 21 2013, 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm in with Bleez! LOL! Puff Puff Pass M0T43R F0CK3R!

Dave's not here, man. biggrin.gif


I'll post my take just now before I forget smile.gif
https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/stoner-collab

really cool backing track btw, Gab.



no backing :
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Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (bleez @ May 21 2013, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dave's not here, man. biggrin.gif


I'll post my take just now before I forget smile.gif
https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/stoner-collab

really cool backing track btw, Gab.



no backing :
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Thanks for this nice trip mate. smile.gif
VilleFIN
QUOTE (Saddlefall @ May 21 2013, 08:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Great tone weepee! I might join this!


Thanks !

And bleez You have great wah wah tone !!
bleez
QUOTE (WeePee @ May 22 2013, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And bleez You have great wah wah tone !!

Hey, thanks dude biggrin.gif
I put a dunlop cry baby into my ux1..... I wasnt sure you could do that sort of thing with the ux1 but it works pretty well!
Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (bleez @ May 22 2013, 07:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, thanks dude biggrin.gif
I put a dunlop cry baby into my ux1..... I wasnt sure you could do that sort of thing with the ux1 but it works pretty well!



Good trick! It worked really good.
VilleFIN
Hey Gabe here's the files for download.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d539w9lyc2p2buo/-RpMUUy7kw

Like bleez I added wah stuff in the end.
Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (WeePee @ May 25 2013, 03:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Gabe here's the files for download.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/d539w9lyc2p2buo/-RpMUUy7kw

Like bleez I added wah stuff in the end.


Thanks WeePee!
Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (mroberts70 @ May 30 2013, 01:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>



Great solo man! Thanks for your magic. We have been missing you at the Vchat Jams yesterday...
mroberts70
Thanks Gab.... Since you went to Wednesday's I couldn't make it, and now I think my Friday's are gone too if you ever come back to that day... I'll have to see. I miss hanging out with you guys, that was the only time I ever got to jam any. mad.gif


QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 30 2013, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Great solo man! Thanks for your magic. We have been missing you at the Vchat Jams yesterday...

Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (mroberts70 @ May 30 2013, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Gab.... Since you went to Wednesday's I couldn't make it, and now I think my Friday's are gone too if you ever come back to that day... I'll have to see. I miss hanging out with you guys, that was the only time I ever got to jam any. mad.gif



These are not nice news... sad.gif
MossRoller
Hi Gabe, I'm running late as usual.
Not sure if I'm quite getting the Stoner vibe or not.
If the take is not up to par, no problemo here if it's not included. smile.gif

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Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (MossRoller @ Jun 3 2013, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Gabe, I'm running late as usual.
Not sure if I'm quite getting the Stoner vibe or not.
If the take is not up to par, no problemo here if it's not included. smile.gif

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hi mate! thanks for your take. Please include the "only guitar" file.
MossRoller
Solo No Backing:

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Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (MossRoller @ Jun 4 2013, 08:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Solo No Backing:

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Thanks mate! wink.gif
VilleFIN
Remeber Gabe, collab isn't over until the German... wink.gif
Gitarrero
QUOTE (WeePee @ Jun 4 2013, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Remeber Gabe, collab isn't over until the German... wink.gif


The man is right!

https://soundcloud.com/gitarrero/stoner-collab-wbt

Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (WeePee @ Jun 4 2013, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Remeber Gabe, collab isn't over until the German... wink.gif


yeah, I know it. Thanks for reminding me. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jun 4 2013, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


hahahah thanks mate. I wanted to start the mix!
Sensible Jones
Sorry for not posting a take Gab, my Hard Drive crashed and I've only just received my new one!! Next time I'm in for sure!!!
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Headbanger
I apologise for not sending anything yet...but to be honest it wasn't without trying hard for hours...I didn't even get near the standard that I think would be required...But I don't give up easily so if this collab is over I will endeavour to improve for future collabs. I'm a bit annoyed with myself to be honest that I didn't but I must say that its a steep learning curve trying to play a collaboration part.. I envy those guys who seem to do it and do it very well every time with style and originality and taste!
Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Jun 5 2013, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry for not posting a take Gab, my Hard Drive crashed and I've only just received my new one!! Next time I'm in for sure!!!
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif



QUOTE (Headbanger @ Jun 5 2013, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I apologise for not sending anything yet...but to be honest it wasn't without trying hard for hours...I didn't even get near the standard that I think would be required...But I don't give up easily so if this collab is over I will endeavour to improve for future collabs. I'm a bit annoyed with myself to be honest that I didn't but I must say that its a steep learning curve trying to play a collaboration part.. I envy those guys who seem to do it and do it very well every time with style and originality and taste!



Don't worry guys! Thanks for your comments. There are more collabs coming! wink.gif
mroberts70
If the German isn't in the collab, then there just isn't a collab... unsure.gif
bleez
QUOTE (Headbanger @ Jun 5 2013, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I apologise for not sending anything yet...but to be honest it wasn't without trying hard for hours...I didn't even get near the standard that I think would be required...But I don't give up easily so if this collab is over I will endeavour to improve for future collabs. I'm a bit annoyed with myself to be honest that I didn't but I must say that its a steep learning curve trying to play a collaboration part.. I envy those guys who seem to do it and do it very well every time with style and originality and taste!

man, that happens to me quite a lot with collabs as well smile.gif
Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (mroberts70 @ Jun 6 2013, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If the German isn't in the collab, then there just isn't a collab... unsure.gif


Can't agree more... biggrin.gif
Gabriel Leopardi
Hello guys! This is the final mix and comments for the Stoner Rock collab! I think that everybody did a very good job with this one and we finally got a very interesting track. Thanks to the guys that joined and also to those that wanted to do it but for any reason or another could submit a take.

Listen the mix here: Click to view attachment

Some comments:

Bleez: You showed us that you are one of the masters of this genre here at GMC! Your take is pure stoner, pure desert, groove, simple melodies, pentatonic riffs very influenced by Sabbath. Everythins is great, as well as your tone and the use of wah wah. You rocked this one! Well done.

Gitarrero: Hey mate! It’s cool to know your Stoner side. I think that there are some cool ideas there. I think that there are some parts that could sound cooler if you work a bit more the melodies. I think that you did too much use of long notes and changing that is what would make this solo more attractive. Be careful with those bends! Thanks a lot for your take, if not, the collab could be finished.

Llibach: Wou! Your solo is so dark, so mysterious. The first melodies are so great! The second section is also good but everything makes sense when you finally add those aggressive bends at the end. I can notice 3 moments at your solo and that makes it very interesting. Good job!

Mossroller: Both your solo and your tone are pure Stoner Rock. I can hear Monster Magnet and Kyuss in your playing. Your solo evolves very good and it makes it funny to hear. Great Angus style part at the end! There are some technique issues on that lick at the end but the overall is ok! Thanks for your take.

WeePee: Black Sabbath!! Your solo is SO enjoyable. I love it from the first note to the last one. You could be playing on new Black Sabbath album and that would make the solos of “13” even cooler (and more precise!). Great job!

Mroberts: Hey mate! Mroberts has its own style!! That’s one of the most difficult things to achieve for a musician and I think that you got it! No matter the style that you play, I can start to notice your touch. Keep on that way!!
Sensible Jones
Cool job guys!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Sorry I missed out contributing!! sad.gif
llibach
Whoa, this is one groovy collab, nice.
Bleez, that's one kick ass solo dude, fits the track so well, got my vote for the take of the collab. Must be all that drfiting in the scottish deserts that got you in the mood. wink.gif
VilleFIN
Woohoo ! A really nice collab !!

cool.gif
Headbanger
Got to be one the best collabs I heard so far..Well done chaps! laugh.gif
llibach
QUOTE (Headbanger @ Jun 5 2013, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I apologise for not sending anything yet...but to be honest it wasn't without trying hard for hours...I didn't even get near the standard that I think would be required...But I don't give up easily so if this collab is over I will endeavour to improve for future collabs. I'm a bit annoyed with myself to be honest that I didn't but I must say that its a steep learning curve trying to play a collaboration part.. I envy those guys who seem to do it and do it very well every time with style and originality and taste!

You shouldn't be too hard on yourself man. There ain't a standard that you have to achieve in these collabs it's all about fun and having a go, even steal some of your favourite licks and use them.
Even a crap take will get positive feedback on where to improve and focus your practice.
Gabriel Leopardi
QUOTE (llibach @ Jun 7 2013, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You shouldn't be too hard on yourself man. There ain't a standard that you have to achieve in these collabs it's all about fun and having a go, even steal some of your favourite licks and use them.
Even a crap take will get positive feedback on where to improve and focus your practice.



Excellent words man. Can't agree more with you. smile.gif
bleez
Thanks for your comments, Gab smile.gif I'll be reading them again to cheer myself up the next time I cant play stuff!
This collab turned out most awesome, full of really cool riffs and badass doom. Some of the links between the parts were so slick they sounded planned!


QUOTE (llibach @ Jun 6 2013, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whoa, this is one groovy collab, nice.
Bleez, that's one kick ass solo dude, fits the track so well, got my vote for the take of the collab. Must be all that drfiting in the scottish deserts that got you in the mood. wink.gif

Thanks dude, really appreciate that biggrin.gif
I totally recommend wandering through those famous scottish deserts........ LOL!

VilleFIN
QUOTE (llibach @ Jun 8 2013, 01:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You shouldn't be too hard on yourself man. There ain't a standard that you have to achieve in these collabs it's all about fun and having a go, even steal some of your favourite licks and use them.
Even a crap take will get positive feedback on where to improve and focus your practice.

Yeah well said !! I remember thinking the same while listening others on collabs. It's just that the more (collabs) you attend - it comes easier. And often a backing track is taken from a lesson so you can go and take licks from there. I have done that many times. smile.gif And eventually you'll find your own style !!
Headbanger
QUOTE (llibach @ Jun 7 2013, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You shouldn't be too hard on yourself man. There ain't a standard that you have to achieve in these collabs it's all about fun and having a go, even steal some of your favourite licks and use them.
Even a crap take will get positive feedback on where to improve and focus your practice.


Its true what you are saying..but each of my takes had some good bits and bad bits and I kept deleting out of Reaper when there was a bad bit and starting again on a slightly different theme/syncopation...until I ran out of time.
When I listened to everyone's takes before the end of the collab, I can only say that I was a bit gutted not to hear any bad bits laugh.gif ...no way was I going to submit. But I did learn that I need to have more ammo and areas I need to improve on : Like timing...playing solos using things other than just minor pentatonic....This is about the 6th or 7th time I have done this without submitting but the first time I mentioned it. Thanks for the encouragement llibach,WeePee and Gab...I'm not that worried what people think..I'm just picky and like things to sound good. smile.gif
bleez
QUOTE (Headbanger @ Jun 8 2013, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
.playing solos using things other than just minor pentatonic.

Ive not done all that many collabs but im quite sure they were all minor pentatonic smile.gif
you can always work on a collab in your mentoring thread, to help refine the bits that you dont like.
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