Good ears!!
I agree all the way with you. Both the 606 and 57 have a "hump" in roughly the vocal/mid range. So they are not "flat" mics. The 606 is brighter than the 57 but they combine well
Point the 57 directly in front of the speaker cone, put the 609 off center, blend together and BAM
The punch of the 57 balances the bite of the 606. Give it a shot and let us know what you think!
For live stuff, The trick (infuriating as it may be) is often to eq the amp to sound like you want it through mics IMHO. As a result, sometimes what's coming out of the amp is not ideal on stage. But the audience only hears what's coming through mics / mains in a decent sized show.
By the same token, For recording, the trick is often to eq the amp more for the monitors than the mics. After all the monitors represent what will be recorded. So the amp may sound wack in the room and killer on the track.
I realize of course that as a guitarist, one wants to get great amp tone, and then record that tone. And this is possible
However, the only time I've seen it demonstrated effectively was at a full studio with a half stack in the main recording room using the 606 and 57 and using a 421 on the open backed cab and two neuman room mics. The tone in the control room and amp room was identical. But then again it took a full recording studio and 5 microphones and a big live room.
If you are looking to get a more accurate sound of your amp, you may want to try adding your condenser mic back in, but you have to cut the lows waaaaay back or it will so crazy bass heavy. Some condenser mics have a built in bass roll off just for this reason. The good news is that a nice condenser can pick up a very broad range of frequencies so it can be a bit more accurate. But they can also fry if given too much sound pressure level.
Goodness that's long winded. Hmm. Well, it about sums up my recording experiences
Todd
Thanx for the add Todd
Yep - I heard about MD and I've seen 609 / 906 too. It only has the filters while mine doesn't. I choose to try it because it has a boost in different range than SM57. I'll get a few more mics for sure since I'm preparing for loud gear demos
I'm also searching for my own mic for live gigs. I'm trying to find best set up so I'll make sure I know what I get through P.A. I'll also experiment with a piece of cloth as a LPF.
My current observations are:
1. Either E606 as a SM57 are not "true" in the 4-6 kHz range - they boost it so I always get brighter tone than I set up on the amp (speaker directly into my ears, very close). Althought boost of Sennheiser is bigger.
2. Even if I set the bass far beyond the limit of live tolerance (almost no bass going from the cab) I still got a lot of bass in the record. The more I move the mic further from the cab, the more it's sounds reminds of what I really hear from the amp itself
3. Mic center on the coil gives best high to low ratio but needs LPF for sure. Especially some juicy 1-2 kHz mids are well balanced there. Treble end is not pleasant but after Low Passing it's perfect - most even in all freq range.
4. Trying to get "mix ready" tone by giving off axis, between or cone edge always gives me way too much bass while the amp has almost no bass when You listen to it live.