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Kristofer Dahl |
6th April 2008 |

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Awesome - just awesome!  I really like how the the song is built up dynamically - and I can for sure hear some killer melodies on this chord progression! Also the solo was awesome!
How you invite Andrew into your lesson and connected it with theory lessons is very clever and gives great value to the lesson! Future versions of our lessons will for sure have better possibilities to connect lessons between each other.
I would invite everybody to check out all the parts carefully - as this is a very thoroughly prepared lesson.
Also - I want to say it's a great honour to have had you do more then 20 lessons for us - I think I am speaking for everyone. Thanks Ivan!
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Nick325 |
6th April 2008 |

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awsome job andrew and ivan
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kyldeee |
6th April 2008 |

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This was just awesome, I loved the solo... I wish I had some recording equipment right about now, anyways great job guys, Thanks
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Bogdan Radovic |
6th April 2008 |

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Great songwriting lesson Ivan!!
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at lights end |
6th April 2008 |

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cool
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Tuubsu |
6th April 2008 |

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great topic, great lesson!
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Marcus Lavendell |
6th April 2008 |

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Amazing!!
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Juan M. Valero |
6th April 2008 |

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Really interesting lesson  congrats andrew and ivan !!
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PassionPlay |
6th April 2008 |

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sweet
just what i've waited for!
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Nobody |
6th April 2008 |

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Guys, can't think of a way to thank you for this one! Really helpful for the thing that's my main songwriting problem - building harmonies.
I've got one question though. What is the logic of the interchangeable chords? Are they always I with VI and etc. or should I always look at the notes of the chords to know which ones are interchangeable?
Thanks,
Hristian
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Dejan Farkas |
6th April 2008 |

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Wow, it is a special lesson Ivan, amazing work
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Hisham Al-Sanea |
6th April 2008 |

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very welldone Ivan .nice lesson
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bladzerok |
6th April 2008 |

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wow thats really usefull!
now i will be able to add some variety to compositions!
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Ivan Milenkovic |
6th April 2008 |

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Thanks a lot guys. Andrew and I have tried to do something special and I hope we done it...for now. Bare in mind that this is the first lesson of this kind and although it has some minor faults here and there it will only get better - I will try to improve the overall quality and push the boundaries even further!
@Nobody
Regarding interchangeable chords: These chords in the lesson are not a specific rule to hold on to when composing. It is merely a guideline how to develop your own harmonies. What I'm trying to say is that I gave one idea - a piece of the puzzle, you have to find all the other pieces. It is not so hard, as Andrew said these interchangeable chords contain two same notes. So musically they are very much alike. Of course this does not mean that they are the same, but it is a simple and effective way to increase the overall harmony vocabulary in an instant. Other factor when building a song must include knowledge about intervals and how do they sound and relate to one another in chords. The simplest example would be just this in the lesson. We change major third and two notes with minor third and two notes in order to develop different harmonic flavor but keep the harmony flow. Next to this - there are a lot of ways to combine different chords, choosing suspended, dominant and diminished chords in particular parts of the song, intervals in an arrangement that you'll know it will be good with the text, 7th chords maybe and power chords, not to mention all the inversions available and how you can make a melody out of top notes of any chords. All this stuff is very much alike, and I've chose the very basic chords changing rule that yo can use in order to develop your own harmonies in an intuitive way.
Soon I'll try to do one lesson about buildin two or three key jazz comping in order to develop our harmony building skills even further by developing harmony structure and character "beneath" and melody "on top". Stay with me!
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Alejandro Piņero |
6th April 2008 |

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good lesson Ivan!
Thanks
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DeepRoots |
6th April 2008 |

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Awesome lesson- my songwriting sucks so- here goes!
Thanks to Ivan and Andrew for such a great lesson
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Matt23 |
6th April 2008 |

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Nice lesson Ivan and Andrew. Really like the solo.
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Dashooter |
6th April 2008 |

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great lesson, but one problem. Anybody know where I can find the chord inversions like they were saying in the 2nd part?
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bham |
6th April 2008 |

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this is really sweet, guys. I would LOVE to see more songwriting lessons; perhaps in the style of?
like, if we could get a lesson on how to write songs in the style of (RHCP, Rage, Incubus), that would really be amazing.
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Ivan Milenkovic |
6th April 2008 |

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Thanks a lot guys!  @Dashooter These are inversions that can be found up the neck. You must first go through the first part where we've explained the order of chords on the fretboard. Once you know all those chords you can find the inversions more easily. @bham I'll do a RHCP songwriting lesson, no problem  Hold on for a few weeks. Thanks for the idea
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Joe Kataldo |
6th April 2008 |

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Great Idea
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Gabriel Leopardi |
6th April 2008 |

GMC Coordinator & Instructor

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Hey man! This is really an excelent lesson Ivan! It's a must for every guitar player that is interested in composing to know all the theory showed in this lesson.
Great work!
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Pablo Vazquez |
6th April 2008 |

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I agree with Gabriel... Cool lesson!!
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Dashooter |
6th April 2008 |

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"@Dashooter
These are inversions that can be found up the neck. You must first go through the first part where we've explained the order of chords on the fretboard. Once you know all those chords you can find the inversions more easily."
I still dont really understand. Aren't inversions completely new different fingerings up the neck? The root of the chord is put in a different place, right? Because I got the 2nd part and 3 part down, with the A shape and E shape.
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Dashooter |
6th April 2008 |

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oh wait, so the "inversions" of the minor chords you used at the end of the part 3 are the same minor chords as the minor chords you showed in the 2nd part with the A shape chords, or different cause they are inversions?
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Dashooter |
6th April 2008 |

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o, so they aren't really inversions, just different voicings, correct? The minor chords at the end are an octive up, but the same chords as the other minor ones.
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Nighthawk |
6th April 2008 |

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Incredible helpful lesson !!!I also think they are no inversions as the root note stays the base note...so it should be a different voicing....
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Nighthawk |
6th April 2008 |

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Incredible helpful lesson !!!I also think they are no inversions as the root note stays the base note...so it should be a different voicing....
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Nighthawk |
6th April 2008 |

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ups...should be more patient when clicking "add comment button" sorry
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Trond Vold |
7th April 2008 |

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This is a truly great lesson!
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IceBurner |
6th April 2008 |

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just brilliant job here...
i was not expecting that!
Thank you very mutch.
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Tiltil |
7th April 2008 |

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Awesome lesson! Luckily I have a rhythm guitarist who takes away most of the songwriting pain, but this will help us all improve
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Nemanja Filipovic |
7th April 2008 |

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great lesson guys...
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adam b |
7th April 2008 |

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Hey great lesson. That solos is very powerful over the rhythm. i was wondering if by chance you could tab out the solo? it would be a lot faster than learning it while you play it so but i will do that for now. thanks a lot i learned a lot from this lesson
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Ivan Milenkovic |
7th April 2008 |

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Thanks a lot guys!  @Dashooter In part 2 the chords are stacked up in relative to the fretboard. So when you see the left hand fretting the chords above are displayed in parallel. This is how you can find the minor chord inversions more easily.
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Rolls |
7th April 2008 |

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I am totally blown away. This lesson has it all, awesome theory, chord inversions, excellent explanations, and a kick ace solo. I would LOVE to see more lessons like this!!! This lesson pulls the theory lessons from just text to spoken words and videos...so much clearer!
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Muris Varajic |
7th April 2008 |

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Great idea and lesson!
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Zizi Top |
7th April 2008 |

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happy 20th anniversary Ivan, that was really helpfull
Bravo !
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Ivan Milenkovic |
7th April 2008 |

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Thanks!
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Gus |
8th April 2008 |

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This is a definitive bookmark
I always tried it very randomly (not that this not allows for very different stuff), but it is good to understand more of the basic way of doing it.
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Marcus Siepen |
8th April 2008 |

Instructor (Blind Guardian)

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great lesson
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Kizaze44 |
8th April 2008 |

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Ivan - do you have a tab for the solo at the end?
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Alex87 |
8th April 2008 |

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Beautiful Chord work Ivan! Love it
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Ivan Milenkovic |
8th April 2008 |

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Thanks a lot guys, it means a lot!  @Kizaze44 I'm afraid I don't have the tab, but you can find a slower version in the slow video 10.
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Carlos Carrillo |
9th April 2008 |

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very nice lesson Ivan!!!
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Outrageous Vin |
9th April 2008 |

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great lesson, but i am confused about something. do the roman numerals work for every chord or does it depend on the chord.
for example, are the roman numerals I and VI or IV and II always interchangable or does it depend on the chord.
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lliber |
9th April 2008 |

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and to add to outrageous vin are II III &VI always minors when building tunes ,thanks in advance
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lliber |
9th April 2008 |

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oh yes and great lesson also
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Kristofer Dahl |
9th April 2008 |

GMC Founder & Rocker

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Yes Ivan - this is (one again) a very impressive lesson - you are setting new standards at GMC!
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Ivan Milenkovic |
9th April 2008 |

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Thanks Kris!  @Outrageous Vin I strongly suggest that you check out Andrews Theory lessons about scales if something is not clear. It is all very thoroughly explained there. To answer your question briefly - Roman numerals represent the note in the scale. On top of every note you can build chords. In every KEY (tonality) the chords are the same. @lliber Yes, II III and VI (degrees of a major scale) are always minor type chords because they contain a minor third interval.
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eddiecat |
10th April 2008 |

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Amazing! I'm loving it!
I hope I'm going to learn a lot from it...
Eddie
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Blairkelley |
10th April 2008 |

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Do these interchangable chords only work for the major scale? For other modulations, would we refer to the corresponding major and minor chords, however they would be in differnt positions or roman numerals.
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Ivan Milenkovic |
10th April 2008 |

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Do these interchangable chords only work for the major scale? For other modulations, would we refer to the corresponding major and minor chords, however they would be in differnt positions or roman numerals. I don't really understand what your question is, my english is not so good. Can you please explain better? Thanks
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BIGD2 |
13th April 2008 |

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Very nice lesson..........thanks
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Ivan Milenkovic |
13th April 2008 |

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Your welcome man!  Anytime!
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Nick Kellie |
14th April 2008 |

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really interesting Ivan
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Paul Coutts |
20th April 2008 |

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yeah, I'm lovin' it
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