Economy Picking Lesson

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   Now it's time for Economy Picking!
In this lesson I'll show you basics of it and some licks to play with this technique.
And what it is all about?Well,point is to use one hit with pick while going from one string to another.
But ONE,NOT TWO upstrokes or downstrokes!
I'm sure you'll menage this lesson soon so I could do another with more complex stuff.
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     Lesson Questions, Feedback & Comments



ezravdb
post 18th July 2007


Member


cool, I needed this
Pavel
post 18th July 2007


Instructor


Very nice lesson! Cool licks and nice sound! smile.gif
Layzer
post 18th July 2007


Member


great lesson
Kai Muehlenbruch
post 18th July 2007


Instructor


Once again very good one Muris smile.gif I like that track, a lot! And explainations are good as well! Keep emīcoming smile.gif

cheers,
Kai
The Uncreator
post 18th July 2007


Fire Up The Blades, Moderator


Great stuff, and some awesome licks!
Andrew Cockburn
post 18th July 2007


Theory Instructor & Moderator


Cool Muris - a really nice lesson smile.gif
John Crow
post 18th July 2007


Member


hey, excellent lesson Muris!!! Gotta practice it once I back home from work tongue.gif For me this is a good lesson to practice speed and a melody as well. thx 4 it. cheers
Speedeh
post 18th July 2007


Member


Your pinky is mesmerizing. Thanks for this.
ezravdb
post 18th July 2007


Member


I remember Kris saying:

"Good guitar players can make melodies with speed. But I can't so I use them as build-ups."

Props Muris tongue.gif
Ryan
post 18th July 2007


Member


i thought economy picking was a no-no. Anways, good lesson Muris.
Muris Varajic
post 18th July 2007


Instructor


Thanks guys,hope you can use it!!
Ryan,need more explanation about no-no, think I don't understand what is a no-no blink.gif
Pavel
post 18th July 2007


Instructor


No-No means - "never use it!"
Muris Varajic
post 18th July 2007


Instructor


Thanks Pavel ! smile.gif
Hmm,must talk with Ryan about it mad.gif ohmy.gif blink.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif
Kristofer Dahl
post 18th July 2007


GMC Founder & Rocker


For me dropping economy picking was one of the best things that happened to me... I still have some practice todo, to get back on track though.

However, it's obvious that economy picking is working for a lot of people! smile.gif
Anastasio123
post 18th July 2007


Member


Cool, never understood this technique to get into it. Thanks for the lesson, Muris smile.gif
Layzer
post 18th July 2007


Member


Kris, why?
guybrush
post 19th July 2007


Member


Is it better economy picking or alternate picking ?

And why?
Muris Varajic
post 19th July 2007


Instructor


Both are more than just great,there's no better! smile.gif
You just need to decide when and how to use which one.
I'm making a lesson about it at the moment wink.gif
Wikingman
post 19th July 2007


Member


i cant really say that i understand whatīs so economy about this picking? im dazed and confused
Andrew Cockburn
post 20th July 2007


Theory Instructor & Moderator


QUOTE (anders_wiking@hotmail.com @ Jul 19 2007, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i cant really say that i understand whatīs so economy about this picking? im dazed and confused


What it comes down to, is that you are saving yourself from reversing pick direction when you change strings. This is supposed to help with speed and smoothness, though some argue at the expense of overall tone. This is a devisive subject in guitar circles usually smile.gif
Toofister
post 20th July 2007


Member


I may be mistaken but my understanding of economy picking was playing a same string in the same direction up or down twice or more times. It seems to me that muris is picking alternate at times while economically inserting triad sweep like patterns. Which in my opinion would make it easier and quicker to play it that way. I will definately have to study the patterns more though to learn them, thanks muris for the lesson.
Andrew Cockburn
post 20th July 2007


Theory Instructor & Moderator


Economy picking is related to sweeping - the economy comes in when you switch strings. At all other times it is the same as alt picking.

Say you were playing 2 notes on your b string then a note on your g string ...

Alt picking would be D,U - move upwards to g string - D
Economy picking would be D,U,U (whilst moving to G string)

In this example, you move the pick up to switch strings, so in alt picking you are making an up/down movement when you switch strings and pick the note. In economy picking you combine moving from one string to the next with the picking stroke which is more econmical in movement terms, hence the name.

Its attractors say that this gives you better speed with less wasted movement, whilst its detractors say that without a strict up/down movement you lose rhythm and cannot play as precisely.

Me - I'm neutral as I can't alt pick fast enough for it to matter yet, although a couple of experiments confirm the speed AND the loss of precision for me, so you get to choose, speed or precision.

Oh, and both sides of the argument can cite master shredders who use their technique, so I guess at the end it comes down to preference, and as ever, practice
Muris Varajic
post 20th July 2007


Instructor


Yeah,Andrew gave fine explanation again smile.gif
I would just say that example of two notes on B and one on G shall be D and U,not actually D,U and U.
That's one move when you're on speed.
Of course in slow videos I did it as two hits just to show move of pick,but it's one hit indeed.
Andrew Cockburn
post 20th July 2007


Theory Instructor & Moderator


QUOTE (muris @ Jul 19 2007, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah,Andrew gave fine explanation again smile.gif
I would just say that example of two notes on B and one on G shall be D and U,not actually D,U and U.
That's one move when you're on speed.
Of course in slow videos I did it as two hits just to show move of pick,but it's one hit indeed.


Heh! Serves me right for trying to explain something I can't really do - listen to Muris, he is the expert as he has shown laugh.gif

So, how about Down, Up, Further up in the same movement? That's what I meant, whcih yes, is Down, Up smile.gif
Muris Varajic
post 20th July 2007


Instructor


You got me on this one Andrew,sorry cool.gif
Andrew Cockburn
post 20th July 2007


Theory Instructor & Moderator


QUOTE (muris @ Jul 19 2007, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You got me on this one Andrew,sorry cool.gif


Nah, you can play it, I can't - I'm just talking about it smile.gif
Muris Varajic
post 20th July 2007


Instructor


But it is great technique don't you think??
There's a small lick in my Improvisation video, 3 nps run,played economy,sounds nice.. smile.gif
Andrew Cockburn
post 20th July 2007


Theory Instructor & Moderator


QUOTE (muris @ Jul 19 2007, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But it is great technique don't you think??
There's a small lick in my Improvisation video, 3 nps run,played economy,sounds nice.. smile.gif


Yeah, I have a pattern of runs I am working on and I'm trying it both ways to see which I like the best - as always its best to have as many techniques as possible under your belt and that was a great lesson Muris smile.gif
Muris Varajic
post 20th July 2007


Instructor


Yeah,is the best to have both ready for fire smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
Jeff
post 30th July 2007


Member


Muris -great lesson. Do you have any Frank Gambale influences here? He has a speed picking video that has some similar instruction. And incredible speed! Excellent! smile.gif
Muris Varajic
post 30th July 2007


Instructor


Frank Gambale mastered this kind of picking a long time ago, so he's a big influence here for sure. smile.gif
Regarding to speed,I'll do more complex and faster stuff with economy picking in next lessons,I promise! wink.gif
Thanks for kind comment!!
Juan M. Valero
post 14th September 2007


Instructor


OMG, Excelent lesson as always !!! I need more time to study your exercices biggrin.gif
Muris Varajic
post 15th September 2007


Instructor


Holy,looks like you're really hitting on my lessons Juan,thanks a lot!! biggrin.gif
Carlos Carrillo
post 18th March 2008


Instructor


excellent lesson muris!!!!!

thanks
KWEST
post 23rd April 2008


Member


In some situations, like for me recently in learning Muris' Extreme Neoclassical lesson, it would be nearly impossible to play some of the licks quickly without using economy picking, especially the fast descending licks seem to almost force you to economy pick, also sweeps come off of economy picking more naturally, so a hard rule always to alternate pick might not be practical - just my 2 cents worth about the discussion alternate vs. economy. Great lesson, by the way, as always.
Hammerin Hank
post 1st May 2008


Member


I am going to spend a while trying to pull this technique off but I love the challenge!!

Thanks for creating all the great lessons Muris
Muris Varajic
post 1st May 2008


Instructor


Cheers guys,appreciate it. smile.gif
Hammerin Hank
post 1st May 2008


Member


Hey Muris I just checked out junk medley.......damn man!! Unreal composition, I love at 2:20 the VH tempo change, you have my vote.

Good luck
Muris Varajic
post 1st May 2008


Instructor


Thanks Hank,much appreciated!!


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