Sweeping Lesson 2 - 5-string shapes

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   After you got familiar with 3-string sweep picking it's time to move onto some 5-string shapes!These shapes will allow you to create some long crazy runs and you'll also see how to combine them with 3-string shapes.


Cool thing about sweeps is if you have a melody in your head you can replace one note with the whole arpeggio shape and make a crazy sounding solo. For example, instead of playing the note A in a melody, you can play the whole A minor triad arpeggio.

So practice this lick part by part and then shred the whole lick! Enjoy!

/Pavel



     Lesson Questions, Feedback & Comments



MickeM
post 22nd January 2007


Born of NWOBHM, Moderator


Wondeful!!!

For me, some times it was difficult to follow your fingering since I needed to look at the video AND the tab at the same time. That was with the 3 string shapes...
Could you perhaps include which finger is used and enter it below the tab? If it's not too much work.
ezravdb
post 22nd January 2007


Member


18 p 17 should be 18 p 16 ?
Kristofer Dahl
post 22nd January 2007


GMC Founder & Rocker


Yes Pavel will fix some minor tab mistakes later today!
Norven
post 23rd January 2007


Member


Very very nice:D
Kristofer Dahl
post 23rd January 2007


GMC Founder & Rocker


Tab fixed - as well as fingering and chords on the separate tab sheet! biggrin.gif
MickeM
post 23rd January 2007


Born of NWOBHM, Moderator


Thanks, the tab looks perfect!
Steelkonsum
post 23rd January 2007


Member


Your fingers reminds me of spiderlegs for some reason. They move incredibly fast.
Kristofer Dahl
post 23rd January 2007


GMC Founder & Rocker


So I sat down with this lesson and I must say it's a great illustration on how to start combining major and minor arpeggios. As well as just how to build licks by combining the shapes.

If this stuff is too difficult for you - make sure to just pick one or two shapes which feels most comfortable (or least hard!) - from this one or the last lesson - and work with that for a while.

If you try to swallow lots of new stuff without mastring the basic technique (sweeping) you will end up discouraged...!

Pavel: When starting out with sweeping - did you consciously think about lifting your left hand fingers after the pickstrike - to avoid unwanted noise (two strings ringing together)?
Pavel
post 23rd January 2007


Instructor


I don't think so - i was only concentrated on my right hand - and that is basically how i do it - by muting the strings with the right hand - and i can say it works wink.gif Because when you are playing some more complicated stuff you don't have time to mute the strings with the left hand.
Kristofer Dahl
post 23rd January 2007


GMC Founder & Rocker


OK! What I was referring to was not muting - more of "lifting" so that you don't hold the arpeggio as a chord - which I think might be a common beginner mistake.
Pavel
post 24th January 2007


Instructor


OK i got your question now:
you press the note only when you need to play it - so when playing a shape you start playing from 1st string and you press the notes on the 1st string, but not on other strings. So when you move down the shape you press the notes one by one,releasing the notes you have played.
FrenchyFungus
post 24th January 2007


Member


Any opinions on thumb position?

I was told that it should be on the back of the neck, but in a lot of the videos I watch, it's more around the neck.
Pavel
post 24th January 2007


Instructor


Well the best would be to keep it in the middle of the neck, but i place it where i feel comfortable for certain technique.
James Matthews
post 27th January 2007


Member


Where is the first part to this tutorial? I was practising a few days ago and found it really useful, but I can't find links to it anywhere!!
Pavel
post 27th January 2007


Instructor


YOu want to find the 3-strings sweeps? Here they are: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...esson/index.htm
kevin-riff-after-riff
post 6th February 2007


Member


am i supposed to sweep with the side of the plectrum? because i find it alot smoother to do that, i reckon it sounds nicer....but is it right? anyone?
Pavel
post 7th February 2007


Instructor


I do sweeping just like alternate picking - imagine you do a downstroke - and apply the same thing to sweeps.
Brandon2002
post 27th March 2007


Member


wow! at first this was very intimidating, its not as bad as i thought. kudos man, this is by far one of my favorite sounding lessons on the site. i got a question im learning a song and it has sweeps in 6 string shapes. they look something like this.

---------------------12---------------
------------------13----13------------
---------------14----------14---------
-------10--14-----------------10------
----11---------------------------11-12
-12-----------------------------------

does this mean i have to start a sweep then alternate pick and then continue my sweep?
Pavel
post 29th March 2007


Instructor


You have to hammer-on from 10 to 14
Ibanex
post 6th April 2007


Member


Hey Pavel,
Why do you use 2 diffrent Am-shapes, although you play the exact same notes?
Pavel
post 10th April 2007


Instructor


I did it on purpose so you practice both shapes and use of both in the same lesson. BUT - in this lesson the notes are the same - but if we play the last note of the second shape with a pinky - that would be the extra note we would have to tap if we played it with shape 1. Every shape has it's advantages so you must learn to use both!

Keep rockin'!
Pavel
post 10th April 2007


Instructor


The 2nd shape has one extra note we play with pinky - but not in this lesson. So you'll meet more stuff in upcomming lessons!
bowy73
post 11th April 2007


Member


thanks pavel, great lesson. this will keep me busy for a while.
Iluha
post 21st April 2007


Member


great lesson, I was looking for something not too difficult too get me into sweeping, and this and the 1st sweep lesson are it, thanks Pavel smile.gif
mattacuk
post 28th April 2007


Lets go fishing!


Hello Pavel,
due to getting on so well with the Basic Sweep Lesson. I started the 3 string lesson only to find my guitar is a few frets short. I realise we can move it all down but I was wonder if its ok to jump to this lesson for now untill i get the new guitar i had planed anyway? I enjoy playing 5 string shapes more anyway! :0)
Pavel
post 28th April 2007


Instructor


Man, you can always replace that shape that goes to 24th fret by the first 5-string shape. Simply play it twice!

As for 3-string shapes - you can make a very cool solos with 3-string shapes because if you play them fast they sound like WARP SPEED!! While 5-string shapes stay in the same position for a longer time. Lets say you play C-D-E chord progression: if you play it with 5-string shapes it will take you longer time to play those 3 shapes. If you play it with 3-string shapes you'll finish it in no-time!

I suggest you practice both! smile.gif Keep sweeping!!
mattacuk
post 6th May 2007


Lets go fishing!


I seem to be practicing Minor1 shape as 6-tuplets, and the Minor2 shape im playing 3 notes per beat. I guess this is ok??smile.gif
Pavel
post 6th May 2007


Instructor


No - i play them all as 6-tuplets! smile.gif
mattacuk
post 7th May 2007


Lets go fishing!


thats great thanks! just one more question, can i play with the pick angled? Im currently sweeping with the side of my pick more than the tip.
Pavel
post 7th May 2007


Instructor


You can play the way you like it as long as you make it SWEEP picking and it sounds ok!
mattacuk
post 10th May 2007


Lets go fishing!


Sounds good! smile.gif
doomSlayer666
post 24th May 2007


Member


Man Im digging this site so much. So much great stuff here, a guitar players dreams. Pavel, your the man, badass playing!!! Anyways, Im trying to get this sweep thing down. Im doing good with playing the shapes, I have been practicing them for about 6 months now. But now Im trying to incorporate them into my own songs. So tell me, and excuse me if this seems like a dumb question. What note in the shape of an arppegio defines its key? Both in 3 string shapes, and 5 string shapes.
Pavel
post 24th May 2007


Instructor


Thanks man!

Well, for those basic shapes you have learned so far - the key note for 5-string shapšes is the one you start from on the 5th string.

Key note for 3 string shapes is more tricky. For those 2 basic shapes we've done in my lessons the key is the note on the 2nd string. But it's NOT THE RULE. There are lots of shapes.
doomSlayer666
post 25th May 2007


Member


Cool man, that helps tons! So correct me if Im wrong, but if you hammering on to open the 5 string shape. The Key note is the one your hammering on too? Thanks again
Pavel
post 25th May 2007


Instructor


No - the key note is the one you start the shape with! (basic 5-string shapes)
Victafor
post 19th August 2007


Member


how do you mute the strings on the up strokes? My right hand moves along down the strings when i down stroke but i have nothing to mute on up strokes except in some cases my pinky...
Pavel
post 19th August 2007


Instructor


Before going on this lesson - visit the BASICS OF SWEEPING LESSON and read the HUGE post in the feedback area! I explained it all! smile.gif
Victafor
post 19th August 2007


Member


ok thanx
Smikey2006
post 19th September 2007


Member


your amazing pavel. your sweeping lessions are helping me a ton! Thanks for bein a great instructor here at gmc
Smikey2006
post 19th September 2007


Member


your amazing pavel. your sweeping lessions are helping me a ton! Thanks for bein a great instructor here at gmc
Pavel
post 19th September 2007


Instructor


Thanks a lot Smikey! I am really glad it helped! smile.gif
Farbror Kudde
post 26th October 2007


Member


Freaking sweet! biggrin.gif pure madness!
AJGgtrst
post 4th November 2007


Member


This is a sweeeeeeeet lesson, I love it, after one week I'm up to 80 bpm from 50 bpm last week...gonna keep at it biggrin.gif:D I'm so happy!! Great Lesson pavel, it's really helping me grasp Sweep arpeggios quicker now! Keep up the great lessons and I'll be back for more.
Pavel
post 4th November 2007


Instructor


Cool man, thanks! Congrats on the improvement! smile.gif
botoxfox
post 10th January 2008


Member


Yay, I'm starting to practice sweeping again! And this lesson has been most useful in the past.
Juan M. Valero
post 5th March 2008


Instructor


Amazing mate, love this one !!!
Carlos Carrillo
post 31st March 2008


Instructor


great lesson Pavel!!!!


fantastic


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