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Posted by: Potsau Mar 4 2020, 02:35 AM

Hey guys

im a big fan of metal: more than metal: extremer than metal: metal til it metals up.
But also big fan of classical guitar. I already played the whole carulli guitar school and things like spanish romance and lagrima. All by notes. If you have any ideas for romantic classical guitar songs you can offer here. 😉

I choose this for beginning














The big idea is to offer Classical songs especially they are not that popular like moonlight sonata.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 4 2020, 03:24 AM

Here is a gal that I'm a big fan of. Stephanie Jones. She is amazing. She is from Australia. Check her doing some bach. You may recognize some of the themes from various bits we have worked on. I don't know if there are tabs to her stuff, but it's worth a listen.



Here she plays her recital for her graduation from a German guitar school. 10 minutes of mastery and not a single note missed.

Posted by: Potsau Mar 4 2020, 03:35 AM

She did her graduation where I live around the corner 😉

Yeah thats the idea. Beautiful thing but the bach sonata has no guitar transcription. I checked it on imslp.org. Its for violine and perhaps hard to reach

Posted by: Potsau Mar 4 2020, 04:52 PM

Another one

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Mar 4 2020, 07:18 PM

I like this one:

Posted by: Phil66 Mar 4 2020, 08:45 PM

I was 6 years old when this version was released and I loved it then and still do.

https://youtu.be/nj0SxGk9jQ8


Here is a more recent take with John Williams.
https://youtu.be/ekznnxaGzNU

Posted by: Todd Simpson Mar 4 2020, 10:32 PM

Wow! It's a small world! You live right next to her guitar school? Did you ever see her play?

Posted by: klasaine Mar 4 2020, 10:50 PM

The Bach is available for guitar.
All the Bach violin sonatas are transcribed for guitar.

https://www.amazon.com/Sonatas-Guitar-Solo-Sonata-Violin/dp/3795795559
Assorted Bach for classical guitar ... https://www.amazon.com/s?k=bach+violin+sonatas+for+guitar&i=stripbooks&ref=nb_sb_nos

*Sometimes the original keys get changed to facilitate the guitar and it's tuning.

Posted by: Potsau Mar 5 2020, 01:10 AM

This is just great. I will look for the notes!




Yeah Phil I love the Paco de Lucia Version. Its mor traditional. Give it a try! 😉




Its the Franz Liszt University in Weimar. Its the most frequensed and
highest recognized classical Music university in the world. So I not heard her play. But its a daily business here. 😉



Ah thx. This one I will order. But not the combined tab version. I cant play classical guitar with tabs. Any equal experiences?




Here is another transcription i love. The original piano version is also the highest amount of full satisfaction. ManyOctaveHops and pedal notes! 😅



Anybody playing classical guitar here? Mabey a collab for duo?

Posted by: Potsau Mar 8 2020, 08:30 AM

Try this! The most dificult guitar etudes in the world. Got the notes if anybody want to look at.

Posted by: klasaine Mar 8 2020, 05:00 PM

While they are challenging, the Villa-Lobos etudes (there are 12) are standard repertoire for any serious classical guitar student and many of them are used as teaching pieces.
The one above, Etude #1 is used as a right hand study. Other than a couple of big arpeggios in the middle, the left (fretting) hand is fairly simple using mostly standard open shapes and common barre chords. Also, if you notice, the right (picking) hand plays exactly the same pattern throughout. That's the focus of the piece.
It takes time to get it up to tempo, especially in the right hand but once you do, it flows very naturally.
*It's also a genius study on using open string voicings.

Here's Villa-Lobos Etude #2. This one focuses on two octave arpeggios in the left (fretting) hand. Essentially the mirror image of Etude #1.
Play this one palm muted with distortion and you get instant neo-classic style. Where do think the metal guys got the idea?

Posted by: Potsau Mar 8 2020, 07:08 PM

I know the classical influences to metal 😉. I tried the first one. Clarified the right hand picking. But it takes some time to that tempo thats right. Right hand picking feels very comfortable at #1. Seems like you did some studies with lobos? 🤓
You got foundational knowledge to the analytics of the etudes.

Posted by: klasaine Mar 8 2020, 11:32 PM

I was a classical guitar major in college. Villa-Lobos #1 is a first or second year piece.
The hardest part of the right hand pattern is maintaining a consistent dynamic level between the individual fingers. The 3rd or annular finger is the hardest to control. It usually wants to be the loudest.

Here's another great right hand piece by the Cuban composer Leo Brower. Again, check the beautiful open string chords.

Posted by: Potsau Mar 8 2020, 11:55 PM

This is great. Dif you crack it in that way?

Did you listened to my carulli covers? 🤓. What you say about my technique as a studied classi? I really want to know. Especially the long carulli Rondo.

Ricardo Cobo sounds very similar to the first Lobos etude

Posted by: klasaine Mar 9 2020, 03:03 AM

Your left hand is pretty good but your right hand needs some work. Your not really playing with nails and your hand position is not allowing you to bring out the tone of the guitar.

Watch Julian Bream. One of the best that there ever was. This performance has some great shots of his right hand.



Here's David Russell. Again, great right hand work.

Posted by: Potsau Mar 9 2020, 08:16 AM

I know. Right hand should angled down. I tried it with nails but that feeling gives me the creeps. Mabey I try it with artificial nails.

Posted by: klasaine Mar 9 2020, 03:17 PM

Your nails don't have to be long. Just so they are slightly above the finger tip.
It will make you sound a lot better - guaranteed.

Posted by: Potsau Mar 10 2020, 07:16 PM

Thanks for that. I will try this soon.. With wich work I should go further after Carulli Op241?
I did that whole thing.

Posted by: klasaine Mar 10 2020, 07:45 PM

Do you have the 120 studies for the right hand by Mauro Giuliani? Start with that.

https://www.classicalguitarshed.com/sm-giuliani-120-right-hand/
http://www.stormthecastle.com/classical_guitar/Collection/120studies-for-right-hand.pdf

Then apply the technique(s) to whatever classical pieces you like to work on.

Posted by: Potsau Mar 10 2020, 08:07 PM

Yeah i got those. Bought it a couple of monts ago

Posted by: Potsau Mar 10 2020, 08:47 PM

I played it one time all 120 in a row. Very tedious.
But i looked at the content and there is much more to play. I try the 120 daily studies and try the other stuff in the book.

Posted by: klasaine Mar 10 2020, 10:56 PM

It's not about playing them all in a row.
You need to PRACTICE each one individually and make them sound like music at several different tempos and dynamic levels.
Play them close to the neck (sul tasto) then back near the bridge (ponticello). Play them quietly, play them loudly. Increase and decrease the volume as you play the exercise, etc., etc., etc.

Posted by: Potsau Mar 10 2020, 11:11 PM

You grabed really Deep in my unborn head. Thank you for your hints. That gives me another 1 year practising time. Gain Knowledge and ability.