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Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 16 2021, 04:46 PM

If you do not know what this is about -
This idea originates from us https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=62530 about a possible new collaboration format/idea.
Check out Cael's https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=62561 as well.

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@Gab & @Ken

I am super stoked to get started with this - I think Cael's idea will be a killer springboard for us to get creative with! To recap, here is what we have so far:

Cael's original draft idea



Guitar pro
 Lonesome_Cowboy_Blues_Idea_GP5.gp5 ( 25.66K ) : 256


Lyrics

Through the valleys 'neath the wasteland wind
I roam these barren lands alone
This is where I belong
This is my home

As the valley howls its weeping song
The sun sets sail to foreign shores
But this is where I belong
This is my home

In the valleys you better sleep with eyes unshut
or the wilds will run you out of luck
But this is where I belong
This is my home

Through the valleys 'neath the wasteland wind
I roam these barren lands alone
This is where I belong
This is my home

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How do you guys suggest we start this off? Maybe Ken wants to lay down some guitar tracks to a click track?
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edit:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=53366


You will also find both track on the https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/k_pl_v3.html.

Extra special thanks to Cael for his amazing musical skills and also for helping me out with a video edit for the track!


Spoken:
Here's to my brothers,
who stood by me as I fell
Like so many times before
When I've felt fragile and sore
I hail to thee!

As the valley holds its weeping song
The sun sets sail to foreign shores
And here is where I used to roam
‘This is what I call my home

In the valleys you better sleep with eyes unshut
or the wilds will run you out of luck

This is where I belong
And this is my home

Chorus:
Through the valleys 'neath the wasteland wind
I roam these barren lands alone
This is where I belong
This is my home

As the valley holds its weeping song
you better sleep with eyes unshut
or the wilds they will run you out of luck
Though this is where I do belong
And this is what I call my home

I used to call my home
Used to be so strong

Chorus:
Through the valleys 'neath the wasteland wind
I roam these barren lands alone
This is where I belong
This is my home

As the rock would roll, so did the soil, so did my soul
As with Rock n Roll, we had a ball, we filled the halls
Nowhere do we go from here 'cause no man leaves the land!

03:33 Whammy solo by Kris

No man leaves the land!

04:02 Epic nylon solo by Ken

I'm on my way, home again.
I'm coming back again... mama!!

I'm coming home again

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I am extremely proud of the end product, it's just more organic than anything I have been involved with before - and it's oozing chemistry between the participants and the original song structure by Cael!

Posted by: klasaine Nov 16 2021, 05:08 PM

I think we should play to Ben's (Cael) basic track of drums, bass and the keyboard pad.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 16 2021, 05:23 PM

Makes sense! Cael/Ben sent me these tracks for the the different sections:

 sections.zip ( 8.15MB ) : 236

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 17 2021, 05:42 PM

Ok guys! I think that Ben did a killer job with this. I already started working on a first mix so we can start building from there. Check your inbox!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 17 2021, 08:31 PM

Here is a first outline of the backing which Gab sent me (uploading it here so others can follow the process).

I have started working with Cael's melody and lyrics. I haven't yet decided whether to try do my own thing over it, or follow his ideas more closely (or both!)

The backing is a bit neutral in this moment, so I am hoping Ken will throw some cowboy stuff at it 🤠 so we can start blending our colors!

Posted by: Todd Simpson Nov 17 2021, 09:13 PM

I like how neutral it is. it can go just about anywhere from here I plan on doing takes for both

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 18 2021, 08:26 AM

Awesome Todd, looking forward to hearing your takes!

I exported a quick work-in-progress so you can hear what I kind of vocals I am currently working on.

 11_DUAL_collab_kris1.mp3 ( 917.47K ) : 276

As the valley holds its weeping song
The sun sets sail to foreign shores
And here is where I used to roam
‘This is what I call my home

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 18 2021, 01:52 PM

Cool!! Great vocals and lyrics Kris!! This is very promising!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 18 2021, 02:20 PM

Ken send me some cool guitars and this is how I mixed and proccesed them.

There are two lead guitars. One of them is a Nylon guitar which is panned and the other one has a tremolo effect that Ken used. (Soundtoys plugin). I added some EQ, and Reverb (Valhala Vintage Verb).

In the following parts, I tool his guitar and processed it with a weird filter that make it move (it's some kind of irregular phaser, flanger), and added and auto pan to start making the mix more open.

Let me know what you think!


 The_dual_collab_kens_gtrs.mp3 ( 3.09MB ) : 278

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 19 2021, 08:36 AM

Thanks Gab!

Could you send me what you have done so far as midi? I have some ideas I would like to try.

As for the structure, the vocals I recorded above are dense. It's pretty much non stop singing during 4 bars. So after that, it could be cool with some kind of guitar response, and then I could throw in some vocal response as well. So we'd be trading short lines during 4 bars. Just an idea.

Btw you guys don't happen to have a talkbox? 🤠

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 19 2021, 03:50 PM

I think that it sounds good! I can add some guitar lines as well!

This is the midi file which also includes some Cael's stuff that was muted in the last mix:  The_Dual_Collab_Midi.mid ( 21.08K ) : 229

Posted by: klasaine Nov 19 2021, 04:04 PM

Today I'll try an electric bass part.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 19 2021, 05:49 PM

Excellent guys! I have started mixing. This style is pretty new to me I will need to approach it with fresh ears.

Posted by: klasaine Nov 19 2021, 05:53 PM

Do you want me to do a steel string arpeggio part?
Or do you or Gab want to try one?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 19 2021, 06:01 PM

Feel free to try it, I think you have got what it takes to match the style! 😎

Also, that bass will do wonders for the mix I think - I am holding off a little on working the drums until we know how the bass will sound.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 20 2021, 03:14 PM

Ok guys! This is a new version with Ken's bass and steel guitar. I also added a guitar melody with a weird process starting at 00:53, let me know if you like it! And I also tried adding distorted guitar at 1:23 for the lead melody sections. If it works I could do similar things in the following parts... or maybe we can let this part cleaner and save the distortion for the end.

 The_dual_collab_kens_20.11.mp3 ( 11.88MB ) : 273

Posted by: klasaine Nov 20 2021, 06:08 PM

Both the slide guitar 'lead' and the distorted chords work great Gab.
The big chords could come back in every time the melody returns or maybe just the last time - ?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 21 2021, 02:44 PM

Yeah! I think that I'll make them come back every time the melody returns.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 22 2021, 11:03 AM

I had to give this a few days to let the mix sink in, it's still work in progress but let me know if you think this is going in the right direction.

Once I feel comfortable with the sound I'll be able to focus more on the vocals.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 22 2021, 07:40 PM

It sounds great Kris! I love how dynamic the drums sound now!

Here you can download my distorted rhythm & lead guitars, and synth pad in case you want to add them there.

https://we.tl/t-x2ClBoeNlF

Posted by: Todd Simpson Nov 23 2021, 01:12 AM

It's sounding good so far!!!!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 23 2021, 09:31 AM

Thanks a lot Gab, all of these make the mix better ( I have used the synth pad from scratch, ads important harmony).

Here is a new mix with chorus vocals.

Just some random thoughts I have now:

* I need to figure out how to make the vocals more interesting
* same goes for the whole arrangement, we probably need many more fills. I might also need to find some kind of upper shimmer that I can bus all channels to. Maybe also get more adventurous with drums using Logics drummer.

Posted by: klasaine Nov 23 2021, 04:25 PM

I like the placement of the vocals so far.
I think the low guitar should be louder than the nylon string on Ben's melody parts.
Gab's lead should also be hotter in the mix (it's such a beautiful part!).

Posted by: Todd Simpson Nov 24 2021, 05:01 AM

Good tips as usual I'm diggin this so far! I like the vocal arrangement as well.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 29 2021, 03:45 PM

Back with an update!!

I feel like I need to tread carefully not to fall down a cliff here, but I absolutely love exploring this new style 😎

Any feedback is welcome!

Also, there are lots of spaces for your guitar fills and arrangement ideas!

Posted by: MisterM Nov 29 2021, 03:50 PM

Wonderfull !

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 29 2021, 03:51 PM

Awesome you dig it Manu, I am following your thread with great anticipation as well 🤩

Posted by: klasaine Nov 29 2021, 04:48 PM

Getting there!
The vocals IMO should stay clear of Gab's lead parts. There's plenty of space around the melodic material for the vox.

I muted the tambourine parts in sections. I'll email you my latest version (obviously it won't have your lyrics on it).

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Nov 29 2021, 06:37 PM

Good point, I will experiment with a sidechained compressor where the vocals are overlapping Gabs lead.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Nov 29 2021, 07:52 PM

Killer job!! I love the direction this tune is taking. I'll jam over this new mix to see if I can create some new fills and arrangements.

I think that we'll also need a musical bridge once we reach the second chorus.

Posted by: klasaine Nov 29 2021, 08:21 PM

Honestly, I would arrange the vox so that Gab's lead is the only melodic part at those points.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 1 2021, 09:57 AM

Thanks for the feedback!

Here I have focused on improving the vocal arrangement and tweaked the tambourine:

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 6 2021, 05:56 PM

Cool! I like the direction that this one is taking. I feel that the chorus needs to grow a bit more musically.. maybe the distorted guitars can be louder, or we can add a new pad there.

Also, how do you think we can continue this one?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 6 2021, 08:58 PM

Agreed! I am working on an update - I will share it the coming days and we can take it from there!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 7 2021, 11:01 AM

Here is a new version with a second verse. I would obviously like to progress much faster, but the only way I can make the vocals here sound ok is through a pretty much constant 4 track overdub/choirs. I have little control over my vocals - sometimes they sound good and sometimes they don't - and I have no idea why 😅

As far as the arrangement goes I agree the chorus needs a little beefing up - though I don't see it will be an issue since it's already pretty strong as it is.

My main concern is the intro (00:00-00:25). I think we really need some kind of high end shimmer [background] melody here. Maybe just careful arpeggiating of the chords an octave higher with a nice overdrive pedal? Otherwise we might loose everybody those 25 first seconds 😅

I love working with this track, it has such cool potential 🤩

Posted by: klasaine Dec 7 2021, 04:21 PM

I'm digging the 2nd verse.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 7 2021, 09:54 PM

Just a quick update to say I got a 'crunchy electric arpeggiated' guitar track from Ken and it does wonders!

I will experiment with some kind of melodic lead to complement it for the intro...watch this space 🤞

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 8 2021, 11:31 AM

In this mix I have experimented with a slide guitar as intro. You can also hear Ken's new crunchy arpeggios discretely panned to the right, adding much-needed shimmer.

I have also started automating background choirs with a cathedral delay to emphasize some spots.

I don't know if maybe the mix is a tad crowded in the beginning, I need to digest it some.

Posted by: klasaine Dec 8 2021, 07:11 PM

I'm gonna say "too much".
I like the idea of some slide guitar but it needs to be haunting and lonely and sparse for this track.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 8 2021, 07:49 PM

Yes agreed, thats my feeling as well.

I will give it some time to digest the current mix and then tweak/ clean it up some more!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 8 2021, 10:18 PM

I reworked the slide guitar tone and tried to achieve better pitch accuracy in this version:

Posted by: klasaine Dec 8 2021, 11:14 PM

The slide sounds good now.
In order to build the arrangement, add it in the second time the melody appears.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 9 2021, 08:11 AM

Awesome you dig it - and good thinking about building the arrangement up. I also have some other 'scaling down' ideas I want to test.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 9 2021, 10:29 AM

I tried a more radical approach to the intro and I think I like it. Let me know what you think!

Posted by: klasaine Dec 9 2021, 04:03 PM

Yeah man, I like that intro. I'd like to hear the low guitar a little hotter in the mix though. You know, for the "Western" (movie) vibe.
The quasi 'spoken' lyrics are very cool too. You could even talk them a little more - like you're telling a story around the camp fire.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 9 2021, 05:49 PM

Wou guys! It's awesome how much this track has grown in the last few days!

I love the new intro. It gives a more Western soundtrack feel. I would also like to hear a bit more the low guitar/bass there (to hear the roots).

The second verse sounds interesting, Kris, I like your low voice there, it sounds warm and gives the part a more intimate feel.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 9 2021, 09:24 PM

Awesome you guys dig it! I also think this is going in the right direction. We have got so many cool tracks to build the arrangement with now, we really should not start from the climax.

@Ken
Aha now I get it, I can def try to get that spaghetti western sound. My spontaneous thought is that the track might be on the darker side, but let me try brightening it up in the mix and see if I can turn into a 'lead' sounding track.

I got some ideas I will try with the vocals!

Posted by: klasaine Dec 10 2021, 02:22 AM

It's supposed to be kinda dark but to 'brighten' it up - think about cutting some lows as opposed to adding highs.

Posted by: jstcrsn Dec 11 2021, 12:44 AM

for my 2 cents I would only have snare, time of era with cowboys did not have those additional drums so to me they sound out of place , in the intro

Posted by: klasaine Dec 11 2021, 02:04 AM

Cowboy 'movies'. Spaghetti Westerns and such but I get what you're saying and snare only could be cool.
*Cowboys didn't have electric instruments let alone recording equipment so ... willful suspension of disbelief.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 14 2021, 09:34 AM

Here is my best shot a cowboy lead tone in the beginning (I have replaced the nylon string):

 11_DUAL_collab_k_14_12.mp3 ( 1.04MB ) : 57

Great input, I agree that simplifying the drums int he intro could make it cooler and possibly also add a more dramatic effect when the full arrangement kicks in! Watch this space!

Posted by: jstcrsn Dec 14 2021, 06:12 PM

yes, but this is the picture our music is painting and leading us into , ( not that this is mine , as I have not contributed , but music in general is to lead the listener where you want them to go)


I am and can easily see someone using this in film

Posted by: Todd Simpson Dec 15 2021, 12:58 AM

The talking idea would cool indeed imho It's sorta heading that direction already? Maybe give it more of a narrative, cowboy story vibe?

Digging the cowboy tone!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 15 2021, 02:08 PM

Killer!! I like it much more!! how does this guitar sound in the chorus?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 21 2021, 07:01 PM

I have worked on the continuation, namely adding some sections where the arrangement is less busy to create some contrast.

I also put more emphasis on some spoken sections.

This track sends shivers down my spine! 🤩

 11_DUAL_collab_k_21_12_2.mp3 ( 5.42MB ) : 61

In general that brighter tone is much easier to work with the busier the arrangement gets, however the original tone sounds warmer!

Posted by: klasaine Dec 21 2021, 07:09 PM

Yeah man, that's sounding like a real song now. Great work!

Can you dropbox me the current drum track?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 21 2021, 07:19 PM

Awesome to hear you dig it, and I guess you're to blame 😁

Drum track sent!

Posted by: klasaine Dec 21 2021, 07:52 PM

Ha, ha and thanks! (for the drum track).

I think a Steve Vai esque whammy infused solo would be cool somewhere and you would be the guy to do it Kris.

Posted by: klasaine Dec 21 2021, 11:03 PM

Where - ?

Posted by: Todd Simpson Dec 22 2021, 03:59 AM

Wow. This is sounding really cool now. each iteration gets better. It's sounding more and more like something you'd hear on a curated spotify playlist. I love the contrast between the sections. I hope you release the final version for streaming on spotify and such.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Dec 22 2021, 09:06 AM

Sorry, here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lqc0qlnbjv11x2c/11_DUAL_collab_k_21_12_2_DRUMS.mp3?dl=0



Awesome you dig it 🤩 Yes every time I open the project I try to improve the mix/arrangement. At this point it's a matter of scaling things back to make sure there aren't conflicting tracks in the arrangement (everything should be there to enhance the lead vocals) - and also balancing the mix EQ/levels wise.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Dec 22 2021, 03:34 PM

Wou!! I love it!! Killer job Kris!! The song grew a lot.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 3 2022, 06:06 PM

I have worked my way backwards to the intro again hehe... I somehow feel that as the song gets stronger there is more pressure to deliver a stronger intro as well 🤩

So I tried adding some spoken lines, which hopefully should make the spoken vocals appearing later in the tune make more sense as well.

So here is just the tweaked intro:

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jan 4 2022, 01:37 AM

I'm really digging the intro! has a very spaghetti western noir vibe to it. This may be the most creative track yet!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 4 2022, 03:18 PM

Thanks Todd! It might be a little dark but I figure we need something to catch people's attention in the beginning!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 4 2022, 08:00 PM

Here is a (rough!) possible structure for the whole tune.

That whammy solo? Yeah Ken made me do it 😅 And after it, comes his beautiful acoustic lines.

You'd be hard pressed to find a greater contrast between two solos.. but I think I like it! 😎

I also recorded some add lib vocals at the end.

Posted by: klasaine Jan 5 2022, 12:22 AM

I like it!
*Keep the amp buzz at the end. It fits the vibe.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 5 2022, 12:54 PM

Awesome Ken, I have a good feeling about this one as well!

I am doing some tweaks here and there while I let the mix and arrangement sink in.

Posted by: goksel Jan 6 2022, 02:10 PM

Hello,

Im not using guitarmasterclass anymore and im sure i canceled it a year ago but you are still charging me for this. I have just noticed it in my credit card receipt. Pls end my subscription immediately and return my money back.

Thanks

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 6 2022, 04:27 PM

Hi Goksel, I have cancelled, refunded and answered via email. Stay safe and thanks for your time at GMC!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Jan 6 2022, 07:28 PM

Here is the whole mix again but I have added a million small tweaks 😅 Btw not sure if I overdid the drum arrangement at the end?

Btw I am really digging this 😎 What an amazing song idea from Cael!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 8 2022, 02:40 PM

It's brilliant!! I've been listening to this since I woke up. I love your Whammy solo, and Ken's acoustic one. The structure of the track is perfect. It's not a short song, but for any reason, I want to listen to it again and again.

Great job guys!!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Feb 2 2022, 01:24 PM

So here is the whole (final!?) tune:
 11_DUAL_collab_2_2.mp3 ( 7.1MB ) : 110


Spoken:
Here's to my brothers,
who stood by me as I fell
Like so many times before
When I've felt fragile and sore
I hail to thee!

As the valley holds its weeping song
The sun sets sail to foreign shores
And here is where I used to roam
‘This is what I call my home

In the valleys you better sleep with eyes unshut
or the wilds will run you out of luck

This is where I belong
And this is my home

Chorus:
Through the valleys 'neath the wasteland wind
I roam these barren lands alone
This is where I belong
This is my home

As the valley holds its weeping song
you better sleep with eyes unshut
or the wilds they will run you out of luck
Though this is where I do belong
And this is what I call my home

I used to call my home
Used to be so strong

Chorus:
Through the valleys 'neath the wasteland wind
I roam these barren lands alone
This is where I belong
This is my home

As the rock would roll, so did the soil, so did my soul
As with Rock n Roll, we had a ball, we filled the halls
Nowhere do we go from here 'cause no man leaves the land!

03:33 Whammy solo by Kris

No man leaves the land!

04:02 Epic nylon solo by Ken

I'm on my way, home again.
I'm coming back again... mama!!

I'm coming home again

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I am extremely proud of the end product, it's just more organic than anything I have been involved with before - and it's oozing chemistry between the participants and the original song structure by Cael!

Posted by: jstcrsn Feb 2 2022, 01:46 PM

very nice .. my two cents .. the very last line you should leave out "again" as it leaves the listeners in no state of discomfort" if you will , but without it the listener is questioning = did he make it , die , wait , what happened , rather than when the last word is drawn out again. is like "oh he made it" " he has done this before " and if he has done this before , is it that big a deal ? , and I think without it it is more heart wrenching which to me is the theme of the song

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Feb 2 2022, 02:00 PM

Awesome you dig it bro -

Also cool you caught the 'death' vibe there at the end, that's the kind of ambiguous messaging I was going for. It could either be that he simply returns to mum again, or it could be the final anguish before death 😱

The phrasing at the end would need to be reworked if I am to remove a syllab, and I am afraid of touching this one now - it's already cemented as a track in my mind. But keep the feedback coming, it's has been very inspirational 👊

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Feb 2 2022, 03:52 PM

I've been keeping track of this thread too of course, and I think it's really cool - especially how it's sort of gone in a different direction to my original "vision". I mean, not that I had anything set in stone, but of course when you have an idea, it can sort of be part of a bigger image, but it's been really cool to follow this - and also hear the takes from people in the student collab thread, and also do the video comments. That taught me A LOT too.

I think it's really cool how the tracks are different, but still have sort of a similar theme.

Posted by: klasaine Feb 2 2022, 06:37 PM

That's sounds great Kris! Nice job all around.
I do agree with JSTCRSN though that you should leave out the final 'again'.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Feb 2 2022, 07:03 PM

hm, maybe "I'm coming home to you"?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 3 2022, 02:40 PM

Cool!! This project has been very inspiring. It's interesting to see how the same idea can take different directions regarding composition, arrangements and production.

I remember talking with Cael about feeling uncomfortable in a band situation when you don't share the same thoughts regarding the direction of a song. This question goes for Cael, what are your thoughts about the final result of this one? I imagine that you had a completely different idea of how this one should have evolved... do you like this one more, less, the same?

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Feb 3 2022, 02:49 PM

I think it can be down to the initial mindset about it too. The idea for this was very much based around being for GMC, left a bit open to interpretation and I was in a way "less attached" to it that way, as opposed to going into writing or working on something while having a more complete vision for the project.

With that said though, what I thought about originally was less busy than what you guys have here, but that's not to say it's in any way bad - and I don't mind it as I'm not THAT attached to the idea of the song, if that makes sense - from a compositional viewpoint.

When I was 18 I played with a drummer, and we were very much into the same kinda music and was very much on the same wavelength. Maybe that has skewed my ideas about how a band should be If it's a bigger vision and project that I've specifically and intentionally set out to do, then it can be difficult when people take it in a completely different direction that doesn't feel like it's working. I never felt that with any of this though

Also, be sure to check out the current mix here: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=62561&view=findpost&p=796085

Posted by: klasaine Feb 3 2022, 04:03 PM

There's only 12 different notes in music (not accounting for octaves) but somehow, over the course of 2000 years or so we've been able to come up with everything from Gregorian Chant to Trap. The fact that these two collabs even sound remotely similar, especially sans Ben's involvement in ours, is a minor miracle.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Feb 3 2022, 04:05 PM

Good point, I agree this one ended up being a lot busier than I had anticipated as well. And it got better the more I scaled it down, so perhaps I should have kept going..!

Problem was that we had so many good takes, but I know....kill your darlings 😅

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Feb 4 2022, 04:03 PM

I have been thinking more about the last words - and instead of trying fix something that might not be broken - here is how I see the meaning of those lyrics.

He is returning to a place where he has been before (home). This can be taken literally - ie he is coming back to his mama. Or figuratively - and to me this would mean he is returning to the place he was before birth, wherever that was. This could be interpreted in many ways.

To me the 'again' part conveys the fact that there is a 'return' to something. If we just say "home" there is less room for interpretation / depth.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Feb 4 2022, 04:14 PM

That's interesting! The cool part of this experiment is that you can hear what other musicians can do with an idea that you start. That's one of the things that I like the most about following GMC collabs that I don't lead.

I'm now going to the other thread to hear what you got!

Posted by: klasaine Feb 4 2022, 05:34 PM

Yeah man, I get that.
I'm good with it either way.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Feb 4 2022, 07:00 PM

I feel like a dictator now 😅

Posted by: klasaine Feb 5 2022, 03:58 AM

Ha, ha! Not at all. They're your lyrics. You 'should' fight for them. I was pretty insistent on my baritone part.

Posted by: klasaine Feb 8 2022, 03:14 AM

I just noticed that in your whammy solo you do a "yee haw" cowboy yell.
Very cool!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Feb 8 2022, 07:51 AM

hehe that's the evil cowboy in me 😇