Need Help With Coordination
Unleash-The-Shre...
Jan 7 2009, 04:25 AM
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Can you guys give me any lessons or something in particular with getting your right and left hands in coordination when learning to play faster passages, I've been having trouble with that. Thanks in advance.

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Jan 7 2009, 04:43 AM
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QUOTE (Unleash-The-Shred @ Jan 7 2009, 04:25 AM) *
Can you guys give me any lessons or something in particular with getting your right and left hands in coordination when learning to play faster passages, I've been having trouble with that. Thanks in advance.


Kind of a vague question. biggrin.gif Do you have a specific lesson or passage of a song that you are having trouble with? If your question is just in general then there are some lessons on synchronization that you should check out. Do a search and you will find them. biggrin.gif Good luck.

Monte

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Jan 7 2009, 04:56 AM
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Depends on the type of fast passages you want my friend smile.gif

You have sweeping and you have alternative picking, here are 2 suggestions from me:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...ssical-etude-2/

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/sweeping-tune/

Both lessons above average difficulty but just train them at slow tempo and slowly increase smile.gif

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UncleSkillet
Jan 7 2009, 05:19 AM
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I am not sure what your playing style is or your level. I am sorry for that but I tried to find you a few things that may help and be fun to work with. If you can only play these at half speed and clean then you are well on your way to alternate picking shred. smile.gif These should help your hands get synced together. If not PM me and we can find something else.

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https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/speed-alt...ing-lesson1.htm
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...picking-thirds/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...ernate-workout/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/in-the...llad-and-blues/

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Ramiro Delforte
Jan 7 2009, 05:22 AM
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The solution to the coordination problem when playing fast is very simple. Play the passage very very slow and be sure of every movement that you do. When you nailed that in slow tempo (quarter=40 could be ridiculous but to be sure that you have the passage right is not bad at all) then you start to increase the tempo until you get to the real tempo of the song/theme/passage.

I hope that helps you smile.gif

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Ivan Milenkovic
Jan 7 2009, 02:07 PM
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Coordination is usually something that you can apply to any exercise or lesson. If you have some kind of a fast passage that you need to work on then simply follow some general guidelines. Ramiro told some good advices about starting slow. I may wanna add an importance of micro pauses between notes in a sequence:

When you play 4 quarter notes you play them like this usually:

- Start from 60bpm and going 1 - 2 - 3 - 4

the lines between the numbers represent that small amount of time that is needed to transfer to the next note. As the tempo increases the notes naturally become shorter, and the time you need to transfer the strings usually remains the same or cuts down just a bit like this:

CODE
@ 60bpm   1 - 2 - 3 - 4
@ 80bpm   1 -  2  - 3  - 4
@100bpm  1  -  2  -  3  -  4
@120bpm  1   -   2   -   3   -   4


This is where IMO most coordination problems occur. By cutting down the duration of the notes when going up tempo, fretting fingers are usually starting to "poke" the strings. This means that the time while the fretting fingertip is in contact with the string is becoming shorter and shorter. This makes your picking hand increasingly difficult to "hunt" down those smaller and smaller moments.

This is why I recommend that when you start slow with any sequence you really keep those note durations (contacts with the strings during picking the note) as long as you can, and keep those transfer pauses shorter and shorter when you go up the tempo. You will achieve much better precision.

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Jan 7 2009, 02:57 PM
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There is a lesson series about hand coordination! I'll put a link just down here:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/lessonser...Synchronization

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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Jan 7 2009, 02:07 PM) *
Coordination is usually something that you can apply to any exercise or lesson. If you have some kind of a fast passage that you need to work on then simply follow some general guidelines. Ramiro told some good advices about starting slow. I may wanna add an importance of micro pauses between notes in a sequence:

When you play 4 quarter notes you play them like this usually:

- Start from 60bpm and going 1 - 2 - 3 - 4

the lines between the numbers represent that small amount of time that is needed to transfer to the next note. As the tempo increases the notes naturally become shorter, and the time you need to transfer the strings usually remains the same or cuts down just a bit like this:

CODE
@ 60bpm   1 - 2 - 3 - 4
@ 80bpm   1 -  2  - 3  - 4
@100bpm  1  -  2  -  3  -  4
@120bpm  1   -   2   -   3   -   4


This is where IMO most coordination problems occur. By cutting down the duration of the notes when going up tempo, fretting fingers are usually starting to "poke" the strings. This means that the time while the fretting fingertip is in contact with the string is becoming shorter and shorter. This makes your picking hand increasingly difficult to "hunt" down those smaller and smaller moments.

This is why I recommend that when you start slow with any sequence you really keep those note durations (contacts with the strings during picking the note) as long as you can, and keep those transfer pauses shorter and shorter when you go up the tempo. You will achieve much better precision.


Gonna focus on that more, thanks for this Ivan, might certainly solve some coordination problems I have smile.gif

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No prob man, that's what I'm here for. smile.gif

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Thanks guys!

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