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Tolek
May 16 2009, 11:02 AM
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Do not think of the audience a lot, play like for yourself. smile.gif

Actually, when I play I forget that there´s the audience and I´m not nervous at all. It could be because of the lightings - I don´t see anything at all. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Tolek @ May 16 2009, 12:02 PM) *
Actually, when I play I forget that there´s the audience and I´m not nervous at all. It could be because of the lightings - I don´t see anything at all. biggrin.gif


I do something similar, I also do not see the audience that much.
Once a friend of mine came in front of me to say hi
but I didn't notice him.
Later on I had to explain to him that it had nothing to do with him. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 16 2009, 01:57 PM) *
I do something similar, I also do not see the audience that much.
Once a friend of mine came in front of me to say hi
but I didn't notice him.
Later on I had to explain to him that it had nothing to do with him. biggrin.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
This evening I´ll play with the school orchestra at a school party. I have a solo in Bohemian Rhapsody. smile.gif BTW, I still have to upload it. wink.gif

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QUOTE (Tolek @ May 16 2009, 02:11 PM) *
This evening I´ll play with the school orchestra at a school party. I have a solo in Bohemian Rhapsody. smile.gif BTW, I still have to upload it. wink.gif


Have a great time at the party and
let me know when you record Rhapsody! smile.gif

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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 16 2009, 04:10 PM) *
Have a great time at the party and
let me know when you record Rhapsody! smile.gif

Thanks. smile.gif I just came back. The concert went are pretty well. We started jamming over Smoke on the Water during a break which was absolutely amusing. biggrin.gif I also practised Mojo Oro when I didn´t have my musical notation. tongue.gif Video is coming soon.

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Hi Muris! smile.gif
Today I started recording a new song called "Dreamin' ". I know that there are still some small issues and mastering problems, but I´ll do that later when the whole song is finished. I hope you like it.

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Very interesting progression Tolek, nicely done! smile.gif

I couldn't locate or hear the main melody tho,
perhaps cause tune is still in building process but nonetheless,
try to come up with something catchy
and it won't be a problem since progression is really
asking for a sweet line. wink.gif

Btw, the structure is 6 bars, pretty uncommon (not wrong) solution,
did you do it purpose and do you plan to make things
more natural later on by using 8 bars structure or som?

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May 22 2009, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 22 2009, 01:55 AM) *
Very interesting progression Tolek, nicely done! smile.gif

I couldn't locate or hear the main melody tho,
perhaps cause tune is still in building process but nonetheless,
try to come up with something catchy
and it won't be a problem since progression is really
asking for a sweet line. wink.gif

Btw, the structure is 6 bars, pretty uncommon (not wrong) solution,
did you do it purpose and do you plan to make things
more natural later on by using 8 bars structure or som?

Thanks, Muris! smile.gif

I was actually just jamming and dreaming. biggrin.gif Later on, I noticed that it urgently needs a structure because playing over and over again over the same progression is boring. Just a quick brainstorm for the structure:

-Rhythm Part alone
-Kind of a chorus (catchy melody line)
-Verse (jamming over a different progression)
-Bridge (going to V degree in order to create a tension)
-Chorus
...repeating the concept from above...
-Bridge (which doesn´t go to V degree this time, but modultes to Dm e.g)
-Chorus in another tonality
-Short break after the highlight
-Chorus (with a cool ending that I´ve prepared tongue.gif )


About the untypical 6 bars structure. I just feel that those few chords are enough, more would disturb me. So, I don´t want add any chords, just create another progression for the verses and bridges and minor part.

Any other suggestions?

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May 23 2009, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE (Tolek @ May 22 2009, 08:25 PM) *
Thanks, Muris! smile.gif

I was actually just jamming and dreaming. biggrin.gif Later on, I noticed that it urgently needs a structure because playing over and over again over the same progression is boring. Just a quick brainstorm for the structure:

-Rhythm Part alone
-Kind of a chorus (catchy melody line)
-Verse (jamming over a different progression)
-Bridge (going to V degree in order to create a tension)
-Chorus
...repeating the concept from above...
-Bridge (which doesn´t go to V degree this time, but modultes to Dm e.g)
-Chorus in another tonality
-Short break after the highlight
-Chorus (with a cool ending that I´ve prepared tongue.gif )


About the untypical 6 bars structure. I just feel that those few chords are enough, more would disturb me. So, I don´t want add any chords, just create another progression for the verses and bridges and minor part.

Any other suggestions?



Structure you listed seems fine to me, it's pretty ordinary one and will work nicely.
As for bars tho, you don't have to add any more chords if you won't,
you can simply extend one or 2 chords per example to get 8 bars.
No need to do that for every part, maybe just for bridge... or even chorus only!

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May 23 2009, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 23 2009, 04:10 AM) *
Structure you listed seems fine to me, it's pretty ordinary one and will work nicely.
As for bars tho, you don't have to add any more chords if you won't,
you can simply extend one or 2 chords per example to get 8 bars.
No need to do that for every part, maybe just for bridge... or even chorus only!

Good idea! smile.gif What do you think, should I use different progressions for chorus and verse? Or the same, just change the arpeggiating a bit?

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QUOTE (Tolek @ May 23 2009, 11:40 AM) *
Good idea! smile.gif What do you think, should I use different progressions for chorus and verse? Or the same, just change the arpeggiating a bit?


Well that's hard to say from this point cause I don't know the melody.
However there ARE some examples when chorus and verse have same progression
but you have to very wise and well experienced composer to point at the chorus. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 23 2009, 12:18 PM) *
Well that's hard to say from this point cause I don't know the melody.
However there ARE some examples when chorus and verse have same progression
but you have to very wise and well experienced composer to point at the chorus. smile.gif

Hm, well, I´ll try to find a cool chorus melody over the current progression. Then, I think I´ll do some changements to the progression and apply it to the verse.

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QUOTE (Tolek @ May 23 2009, 12:50 PM) *
Hm, well, I´ll try to find a cool chorus melody over the current progression. Then, I think I´ll do some changements to the progression and apply it to the verse.


That;s another way to do it, yeah. smile.gif

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Update of Canon Rock:

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Hey Muris, what about developping my technical area? I wanna play PG stuff, it works, but it´s not really clean. Actually, I wanna get some AP and tapping chops, like Monte. biggrin.gif What do you recommend?

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QUOTE (Tolek @ May 29 2009, 01:04 PM) *
Update of Canon Rock:



That was much better indeed Tolek!
And you nicely applied those 2 strings arpeggios I suggested, good work!
You have it pretty much under your fingers but there is some extra control
over whole piece missing and I believe you can fix that with playing this tune more.
You might also try with less distortion to get better overview of your playing
and every single mistake that you eventually make,
it will specially help on those sweeps were you have some struggle with,
lots of distortion is cool but it also covers if we are sloppy which ain't that good. smile.gif

QUOTE (Tolek @ May 30 2009, 03:21 PM) *
Hey Muris, what about developping my technical area? I wanna play PG stuff, it works, but it´s not really clean. Actually, I wanna get some AP and tapping chops, like Monte. biggrin.gif What do you recommend?


How about we go straight to some of my PG lessons?
You can pick which one you like and let me know of backing you prefer. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 30 2009, 03:47 PM) *
That was much better indeed Tolek!
And you nicely applied those 2 strings arpeggios I suggested, good work!
You have it pretty much under your fingers but there is some extra control
over whole piece missing and I believe you can fix that with playing this tune more.
You might also try with less distortion to get better overview of your playing
and every single mistake that you eventually make,
it will specially help on those sweeps were you have some struggle with,
lots of distortion is cool but it also covers if we are sloppy which ain't that good. smile.gif



How about we go straight to some of my PG lessons?
You can pick which one you like and let me know of backing you prefer. smile.gif

Ok, I´ll practise Canon Rock more frequently. smile.gif


As for PG lesson, I chose the newest one. Just practising the first part until that run. Backing at 45 and 70 bpm would be cool. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Tolek @ May 30 2009, 04:21 PM) *
Ok, I´ll practise Canon Rock more frequently. smile.gif


As for PG lesson, I chose the newest one. Just practising the first part until that run. Backing at 45 and 70 bpm would be cool. smile.gif


Here it is Tolek!!

Let me know if you need any assistance whatsoever. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 30 2009, 04:34 PM) *
Here it is Tolek!!

Let me know if you need any assistance whatsoever. smile.gif

Thanks. smile.gif
Actually, I need now some assistance. I´m feeling not really comfortable with the guitar. Dunno why. Should I make a video or do you have some spare time for live support via MSN? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Tolek @ May 30 2009, 04:36 PM) *
Thanks. smile.gif
Actually, I need now some assistance. I´m feeling not really comfortable with the guitar. Dunno why. Should I make a video or do you have some spare time for live support via MSN? biggrin.gif


I believe a quick video here in thread would do the job. smile.gif

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