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Aug 24 2013, 09:23 PM
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http://investmentwatchblog.com/these-11-st...ey-do-employed/
a little health care factoid http://sarasota.craigslist.org/rnr/3902871838.html |
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Aug 25 2013, 04:02 PM |
http://investmentwatchblog.com/these-11-st...ey-do-employed/ a little health care factoid http://sarasota.craigslist.org/rnr/3902871838.html We are headed down the road to ruin. |
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Aug 26 2013, 03:15 PM |
Milton Friedman once said: "If you pay people not to work and tax them when they do, don't be surprised if you get unemployment." I couldn't agree more. It's just that easy.
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Aug 31 2013, 06:16 AM |
From reading this response, I'm guessing you watch a lot of FOX (Faux) News? Just ribbing ya. The good news is, we get to see what a President from the other side of the aisle will do in just a short while. I doubt seriously a democrat will get elected next time around for the big chair. But after we get one of our last Republican presidents this next cycle... (the demographics of the united states are changing in such a way that puts Republican ticket on the path to extinction IMHO) ...We will get to revisit all of this. I'm personally a Libertarian so I don't vote repub/dem. But no matter who is in the chair, one side just blames the other and Congress stays in lockdown. So again, I just don't see it making a big difference. But hope springs eternal Todd P.S. I found this info graphic that explains a lot of why our country is in the state it's in Priorities are a bit out of balance. I"m all for NATIONAL DEFENSE but I'm not all for nothing but. That graphic is extremely misleading my friend. Check it. http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/breakdown http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/united...nding_pie_chart http://www.examiner.com/article/a-breakdow...-tax-dollars-go http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2...he-numbers-2012 This post has been edited by AK Rich: Aug 31 2013, 06:20 AM |
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Sep 5 2013, 12:26 PM
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From reading this response, I'm guessing you watch a lot of FOX (Faux) News? Just ribbing ya. ...We will get to revisit all of this. I'm personally a Libertarian Actually , I watch the evening news on abc and compare it to actual figures and that is very telling Figures never lie while Liars always figure.Have you seen the latest on Obamacare(how much will you pay) http://finance.yahoo.com/news/apnewsbreak-...-181912365.html I have been registered independent for almost 15 yrs now , But I am curious. What are the tenets of a libertarian ? When I ask, I dont want a link, I would like what you think it is This post has been edited by jstcrsn: Sep 5 2013, 12:28 PM |
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Sep 6 2013, 05:33 AM |
That graphic is extremely misleading my friend. Check it. http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/breakdown http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/united...nding_pie_chart http://www.examiner.com/article/a-breakdow...-tax-dollars-go http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2...he-numbers-2012 Rich, you do realize you (and Crsn quotes one of the same sites) are quoting thinktanks funded with right wing money? One in particular, usgovernmentspending.com is run by Christopher Chantrill who is about as far right wing as it gets, so not exactly "fair and balanced" However! It's fair enough as the missile graphic is from LEFT WING sources So we have balance! Here is a NON PARTISAN graphic directly from the CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE. This is what we spend. And as you may know, it's mostly heavy on entitlements. More so than the military, that's the chunk that will break us. All of the other spending outside of Miltary and Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security is really just a drop in the bucket. So to save any real money we have to cut things that are political suicide and will never get cut. It's a pickle I have a serious filter for far left and far right sources as the truth often lives somewhere in the middle IMHO It's not that I"m a lefty, so bashing right wing think tank sites, or that I"m a righty, I"m a Libertarian and we take all of that with a big salt lick Actually , I watch the evening news on abc and compare it to actual figures and that is very telling Figures never lie while Liars always figure.Have you seen the latest on Obamacare(how much will you pay) http://finance.yahoo.com/news/apnewsbreak-...-181912365.html I have been registered independent for almost 15 yrs now , But I am curious. What are the tenets of a libertarian ? When I ask, I dont want a link, I would like what you think it is Simply put, "Libertarians" are big fans of, you guessed it, "liberty" so what makes that any different from the other two parties? The core ideas 1.)Freedom 2.)Independence 3.)Tolerance Libertarians support the rights of all people to do as they are led (even if they choose things we would not choose for ourselves) so long as it doesn't directly impede on the rights of others. E.G. most libertarians are all for legalizing many of the things are not legal now and taxing them to generate revenue and eliminate Black Markets, and for making all people equal under the law regardless of how they live/think/believe/love etc. That's about it Todd This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Sep 6 2013, 05:49 AM |
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Sep 8 2013, 06:49 AM |
Rich, you do realize you (and Crsn quotes one of the same sites) are quoting thinktanks funded with right wing money? One in particular, usgovernmentspending.com is run by Christopher Chantrill who is about as far right wing as it gets, so not exactly "fair and balanced" However! It's fair enough as the missile graphic is from LEFT WING sources So we have balance! Here is a NON PARTISAN graphic directly from the CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE. This is what we spend. And as you may know, it's mostly heavy on entitlements. More so than the military, that's the chunk that will break us. All of the other spending outside of Miltary and Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security is really just a drop in the bucket. So to save any real money we have to cut things that are political suicide and will never get cut. It's a pickle I have a serious filter for far left and far right sources as the truth often lives somewhere in the middle IMHO It's not that I"m a lefty, so bashing right wing think tank sites, or that I"m a righty, I"m a Libertarian and we take all of that with a big salt lick Simply put, "Libertarians" are big fans of, you guessed it, "liberty" so what makes that any different from the other two parties? The core ideas 1.)Freedom 2.)Independence 3.)Tolerance Libertarians support the rights of all people to do as they are led (even if they choose things we would not choose for ourselves) so long as it doesn't directly impede on the rights of others. E.G. most libertarians are all for legalizing many of the things are not legal now and taxing them to generate revenue and eliminate Black Markets, and for making all people equal under the law regardless of how they live/think/believe/love etc. That's about it Todd Actually no, I didn't realize that site was a think tank funded by right wing money. Except for the Heritage Foundation. But, if you take a look at where the spending data comes from at the usgovernmentspending website , it is all from government sources except for some projections of future Intergovernmental transfer, State spending and revenue, and Local spending and revenue beyond 2013. The data sources are stated to be from the federal government and there are links to them. http://usgovernmentspending.blogspot.com/2...es-by-year.html Also read the comments at the bottom for more clarification. Those numbers seem to be pretty much in line with the latest graphic you have posted. What I did notice is that it is a far more detailed breakdown than what that little missle graphic shows that you posted which really is quite ridiculous IMO. It just goes to show what kind of dumbed down info you get from the left.And it wasn't hard to tell that is where it came from. Which brings to me my next opinion. I noticed that you took a dig at Fox News in another post in this thread. I would agree that Fox is leaning to the right, but as far as the bias scale goes, it is nowhere even close to the bias you get from ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN (commie news network) those networks don't even try to hide their bias anymore , they wear it as a badge of honor , or dishonor. To me it is borderline propaganda. I agree that whatever news you get , it has to be taken with a grain of salt as you say,there are 3 sides to every story. It is a shame that if you really want answers and facts you have to do a bunch of research and try to figure it out for yourself. Also I agree the things in gov spending that need to be curbed may be political suicide.Once you start giving things away to some by taking from others, it is hard to go back.The ones that are getting don't want to give it up but sooner or later you run out of other peoples money. But those are the real hard steps that must be taken to get back on track, not more borrowing into oblivion, more and more entitlements,and higher and higher taxes to pay for it all. Especially when the money that is supposed to stimulate the economy isn't at all going to where it was supposed to go or where it is truly needed.( I am against bailouts and stimulus spending btw )If the big dogs can't make it and fail by their own doings then it's time for some new dogs to step in. All one needs to do is look what is going on in some European countries that are taking austerity measures to see where we are headed.What is happening there is our future if we stay on that kind of path. Socialism has never , ever, been a success in the long run , especially in nations with large populations. I kind of like those three ideals of the Libertarian party you stated, they sound alot like the ideals of the Tea Party if you add in smaller government. |
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Sep 8 2013, 07:43 AM |
so , as a libertarian , how do you feel about the government forcing you into a paying contract with another individual, and penalizing you if you don't. I don't think tolerance is involved, because once someone steps on your liberty tolerance goes out the window CRSN, are you talking about CAR INSURANCE? Then yes, I feel my liberty is being infringed!! The govt making me buy car insurance is against my beliefs Oh wait, Health insurance? hmm. I want to risk permanent indebtedness to a hospital and go without health insurance! By golly! When I have a car wreck, let them bill me!! In all seriousness, affordable health care is something I think everyone deserves to be honest, just as they deserve affordable car insurance And affordable Homeowners insurance, renters insurance, etc. here is a link to an article in the WASHINGTON POST with hard info on the REAL COSTS for what folks will pay with obamacare. It's looking like I'm going to SAVE MONEY!!! Woohooo!!!: ) http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkbl...nder-obamacare/ Actually no, I didn't realize that site was a think tank funded by right wing money. Except for the Heritage Foundation. But, if ...... I kind of like those three ideals of the Libertarian party you stated, they sound alot like the ideals of the Tea Party if you add in smaller government. Some fine points rich I think we are actually not that far apart in political terms. The tea party does embrace many things near and dear to the Libertarian heart so to speak. It does split off with marriage rights for any and every adult/persuassion, legalizing various substances and hobbies etc. But the core bits are pretty close I agree in full that the "left" newsies are NO BETTER than the right. And in fact, I take a big dose of all of them and then sort out the actual "news" for myself. I've found that by adding BBC WORLD NEWS and AL JAZEERA AMERICA news to the mix that it broadens the perspective quite a bit. Just CNN, or FAUX news just isn't enough info to actually have a valid base of information IMHO but sadly the politics are such that many folks that watch one never watch the other. I also agree that limitless spending is just silly. However, we are now in the echoe of the 2008 crash which is still acting as a weight on the entire economy and causing a myriad of ancillary issues affecting growth/jobs which would just be too boring to go in to and i"d need charts and a little slide rule. As such, I honestly think now is not the time to tighten the belt but instead focus on "core research" funded by tax dollars that led us to such things as the Internet, Space Travel, etc. The core research is what allows business to create new markets from scratch and have a competitive advantage imho. The real problem, as you mentioned, is the balooning entitlement spending and 10,000 baby boomers a day retiring and leaving the tax base. Social security/medicare/medicaid is the nail in our coffin waiting for a hammer and sadly I don't see a way around it. Not to be all "doom and gloom" but nobody is going to get elected saying "old people, we are cutting your benefits!". Todd This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Sep 8 2013, 07:45 AM |
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