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Monica Gheorghev...
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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Dec 1 2014, 10:54 PM) *
Ha ha! biggrin.gif I knew I could count on Your help Monica but didn't expect that much biggrin.gif Yes - it is all about stuff we do and practice so it later becomes a part of our natural guitar behavior smile.gif

Haha...I also didn't expect that I will write all these biggrin.gif Of course I left some of my stupid statements to remain buried forever between us tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Seriously now...I thought it's much fair and easy to explain all the things from the beginning and make a parallel between my old thinking and my actual thinking wink.gif Who knows, maybe what has worked for me can help others wink.gif

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It will most likely help and inspire others smile.gif As long as you can be a walking talking example of how change has worked things for the better in your case, I think it's your duty to show others that they can do it too smile.gif So, Monica, congrats for taking Darius' request and making it talk, for Jim smile.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Dec 2 2014, 01:39 AM) *
It will most likely help and inspire others smile.gif As long as you can be a walking talking example of how change has worked things for the better in your case, I think it's your duty to show others that they can do it too smile.gif So, Monica, congrats for taking Darius' request and making it talk, for Jim smile.gif


I agree 100%
One of the things that makes a 'great' teacher is their ability to relate an experience in a comprehensible way that will inspire a student.

Monica's post(s) always do that. She is brutally honest about her development and can articulate it very well.

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Monica Gheorghev...
Dec 3 2014, 06:57 AM
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Cosmin - thank you for your kind words smile.gif I'm always "in" if I can help somebody wink.gif

Ken - thank you for appreciate honesty smile.gif I always believe if I'm totally honest with me, I can fix the issues and go further.
You know it's a thing that I hate and it's spreads like a disease. Somehow in my country appeared too many musicians who can be classified into 2 category:
1- the musicians who say: "I always played so good, I don't need to practice, I was born like this ". Everybody knows that even if you are born with a talent without practice you can't shine.
2 - the musicians who say: " I learned to play in 15 years, I will never tell you what should not do because it's not ok for you to learn more fast than me."
But fortunately in GMC don't exist this kind of persons, just people friendly and great instructors which share from their experience smile.gif

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Very cool thread!

QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Dec 3 2014, 06:57 AM) *
Ken - thank you for appreciate honesty smile.gif I always believe if I'm totally honest with me, I can fix the issues and go further.


I think this is the key.

However even though most people have identified their weaknesses at some point, it is unfortunately extremely common to see students ignore those weaknesses. Why? Fixing those is the key to progress. Don't they want to get better?

The reason is simple: because most of us have been taught that you either have it or you don't. If you're not born with it forget about it. I think this is one of the biggest lies in modern times. It is this lie that prevents people from getting where they want, and their birth has very little to do with it.

This lie originates from industrialism, and we must do everything we can not to convey it to future generations. It will not help them, nor society as a whole. It is just plain stupidity (more about it here).

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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Dec 3 2014, 07:56 AM) *
Very cool thread!



I think this is the key.

However even though most people have identified their weaknesses at some point, it is unfortunately extremely common to see students ignore those weaknesses. Why? Fixing those is the key to progress. Don't they want to get better?

The reason is simple: because most of us have been taught that you either have it or you don't. If you're not born with it forget about it. I think this is one of the biggest lies in modern times. It is this lie that prevents people from getting where they want, and their birth has very little to do with it.

This lie originates from industrialism, and we must do everything we can not to convey it to future generations. It will not help them, nor society as a whole. It is just plain stupidity (more about it here).


I am underlining Kris' affirmation about having it or not smile.gif People often say - I have no voice. Everyone can sing, if they take some time to train their ears. Some of us can have an easier time with that because they are more inclined to having a good sense of hearing and some less, but everyone can train their ears - the time factor is the difference here and the amount of effort put in, of course.

I think that if we would all be taught that nothing is imposible to achieve, as long as you REALLY want that and you are willing to invest in it - time, money, faith and all manner of resources, you can grow the necessary abilities to do it.

There's one other important factor here which can influence the lybra - luck smile.gif Some are hard working and also have luck: the luck of being heard by someone who will help them out with something they would've taken too much time to achieve on their own - this could be one of the many examples wink.gif There are many factors, but as long as you respect the line in bold writing, you are already improving your chances of success big time!

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Dec 3 2014, 04:27 PM) *
I am underlining Kris' affirmation about having it or not smile.gif People often say - I have no voice. Everyone can sing, if they take some time to train their ears. Some of us can have an easier time with that because they are more inclined to having a good sense of hearing and some less, but everyone can train their ears - the time factor is the difference here and the amount of effort put in, of course.

Unless someone is actually diagnosed as being tone deaf (and this is quite rare) there is no physical 'inclination' that will make music harder. So does this mean everybody has the same premises for making good music? Absolutely not. But it has nothing to do with what you are given with from start.

OK so if it ain't in the genes then where is it I hear you ask? Well it's all the things we discuss here on a daily basis.

But Mozart rocked when he was 4, clearly it must have been in the genes? After all his father rocked as well (=genes). Answer: has it ever occured that his father probably gave him optimal preconditions? Especially given how eager he obviously was to have his son play/write music. I don't know Mozart's history well but there are thousands of similar stories. It is not difficult to expose a young child to music every day, have every game revolve around music etc etc. Age or genes don't matter for music.

Keep telling yourself it's in the genes and you will severely limit your ability to improve. Sure you could have been given better preconditions by your parents, society, whatever. But this should just further push you to work harder, not slow you down. And btw do you think all the people out there who made it had optimal preconditions? My research tells me no.

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Dec 3 2014, 04:27 PM) *
I think that if we would all be taught that nothing is imposible to achieve, as long as you REALLY want that and you are willing to invest in it - time, money, faith and all manner of resources, you can grow the necessary abilities to do it.

For sure!

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Dec 3 2014, 04:27 PM) *
There's one other important factor here which can influence the lybra - luck smile.gif Some are hard working and also have luck: the luck of being heard by someone who will help them out with something they would've taken too much time to achieve on their own - this could be one of the many examples wink.gif There are many factors, but as long as you respect the line in bold writing, you are already improving your chances of success big time!


I am mostly focusing on developing musical skills, not making it in the music business. However my view would be the same on both: Luck might speed up the process, but reaching your goals earlier than deserved is much more dangerous than later. Trust me wink.gif

Misfortune (for example an injury) or similar can however stop you, but if your determination is strong that should not be a problem either ( we're all familiar with Django, Iommi etc).

I'd say that regardless of what you're trying to achieve, believing in luck will be a limiting factor. As you might be tempted to think lack of luck is refraining your development/career, whereas the hitch might be a strategy which needs re-thinking or refinement.

I will say it again: I do not believe in natural talent and in spite of having had this discussion with many different people, no one has ever managed to convince me in any way.

If you don't reach your goals YOU are to blame. Now get practicing. wink.gif

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Monica Gheorghev...
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I'm agree with the fact that everybody is born the same. But definitely a children which has the parents musicians (not necessary with a musical career) and are surrounded by instruments will be more curious to try.
Are many children which would love to play at an instrument but their parents are totally against it. Why? Because even if are parents and has some life experience they don't see the benefits in this. The only thing they have in mind is that music will not take you further. You will be like many others artists, without money which try to live in a world where people go only at free concerts where they don't pay tickets.
But for me this is a very wrong thinking. I see many advantage for a children who is exposed at music. First of all he will be more creative, will have a different circle of friends with the same interests (this is a very important thing), will be more curious and he will want to see an opera or a classical concert and it will opens the sense of beauty. I have friends who don't have any idea which is the difference between opera and operetta. But they say "I don't like, I don't go", but they never tried. Their parents never led them to operetta or to theater. It's sad how parents can forget about how to educate the creativity of a kid. But it's "funny" how they say: "my son has a bad circle of friends". How is this possible if you show him another style of life?

If you are a smart parent you don't need to force a children to do something. Just create optimal precondition and he will choose alone.
I was lucky and I was born in a family where everybody play at an instrument: my grandparents, parents and my brother smile.gif

BTW Kriss.........awesome that video "how schools kill creativity".


QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Dec 3 2014, 10:19 PM) *
If you don't reach your goals YOU are to blame. Now get practicing. wink.gif

Totally agree smile.gif

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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Dec 3 2014, 10:19 PM) *
I am mostly focusing on developing musical skills, not making it in the music business. However my view would be the same on both: Luck might speed up the process, but reaching your goals earlier than deserved is much more dangerous than later. Trust me wink.gif

Misfortune (for example an injury) or similar can however stop you, but if your determination is strong that should not be a problem either ( we're all familiar with Django, Iommi etc).

I'd say that regardless of what you're trying to achieve, believing in luck will be a limiting factor. As you might be tempted to think lack of luck is refraining your development/career, whereas the hitch might be a strategy which needs re-thinking or refinement.

I will say it again: I do not believe in natural talent and in spite of having had this discussion with many different people, no one has ever managed to convince me in any way.

If you don't reach your goals YOU are to blame. Now get practicing. wink.gif


I totally agree with this and I've been at the point in which speeding up the process got my old band in a place from which the fall was harder smile.gif we were 19-20 years old and everything seemed so fine and dandy. We were admitted to that period's greatest rock festival and we were given a very good place in the line up - because I was the student of one of the country's most revered guitarists - speaking about luck. We were prepared and everything was going great, until the vocalist got drunk (she was even younger than us) and messed up the whole thing... Well, let's say that it took us 3 years to get back into that festival's lineup smile.gif

We were too young and unprepared mentally to understand the position we had been offered and regardless of the fact that we were prepared musically, we weren't true professionals in order to understand the ethics of the stage.. thus what happened was a lesson learned. For me at least, that point was the shove that showed me how privileged I was and that I should take every chance as seriously as possible.

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Great posts everybody! From my own experience I can say that everything is possible with hard work and dedication. I have set many goals and dreams since I'm very younger. I remember being very young and becoming amazed by shredders like Malmsteen, Gilbert, Vinnie Moore. I noticed that the journey to reach that type of playing started as soon as my mind did a click (at the age of 15) and I though: This is possible.
I even remember the exact day when I did this click, it was at a Joe Satriani's concert. I could see him, in "real life", not on albums or videos, playing the tricky licks and I could feel that it was possible. After that, the only thing that I had to do is to practice every day. At the age of 17, I could play many songs by Malmsteen, Satriani, Blues Saraceno and many others.

I can share a similar example of hard work related to my band. It's not about practice but it can be really applied to it. 11 years ago, I've met our singer Luciana, and decided to try her voice over some songs that I had. We really liked the results, and decided to take it seriously. I've always had the dream of having a professional band, that recorded albums at good studios, share stage with my favorite bands, tour, sound on the radio, record video-clips. I can say that our environment wasn't the best one. We played a non popular style in our country, with a lady on vocals (we never had a popular rock band leaded by a girl in the past). There weren't referents here, there weren't an audience. However, we worked hard, we tried to make the best songs, the best albums, and with the pass of years, we started to reach some goals, with every new year, and every new albums these goals become bigger and bigger.

I can't say that we had luck, I can say that we worked SO hard, day and night, polishing everything to make our shows better, our sound better, our press better. As the band was growing, we used most of the money to invest on a good staff of people that takes cares of everything (management, press, merchandising, stage manager, light engineer, sound engineer). And the results have been something natural related to the hard work done.

Related to what Cosmin said, about not being ready. I can't agree more with him. It took us many years to be able to play in front of a lot of people, so, when we did it, we were ready to play the best concert of our life. We wouldn't have had that impact in people the first years as a band, so I'm really grateful that the opportunities have been appearing naturally with the evolution of us as a band.

So, when I was 11, I had the dream of playing in a band that could share stage with my idols. After 21 years of hard work, I can say that this has been possible. I can say that every day of these 21 years I did something related to this goals. And I feel that this is just the start.

Check this nice video made by a fan with some cool moments of our last concert at Buenos Aires done the past friday:



I can't be more happy, but I still know that this is just the start. There are many things to improve, much more to say, and there is always a lot of room to grow as a musician, as a band, and off course as a person. Music is infinite.

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Amazing story Gabi smile.gif I can relate to everything and indeed, music is infinite and we are merely its servants - I totally recommend anyone here to read Victor Wooten's 'The music lesson' book. It'll change your perspective on guitar playing and music in general biggrin.gif

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Alright well I'm very very excited to play with a Full Stack again!!!! This is great, I got a new spot with nice natural reverb and a nice drum set. It's crazy because at first I turned the reverb up while playing cleanly and after adding some gain the reverb sounded terrible.

Right away I started going right to shaping tone and I knew what to adjust. I have learned a bunch of stuff here at gmc and one of the things is shaping tone.

I have an old 160w peavey tube amp with a 4x12 cellestion cab and a 4x10 jenson cab. The combo make a good punch. The clean tone is very clear and a joy to play but adding a touch of tube screamer and a sans amp pedal makes this big girl sing.

Man from sitting in my basement to standing here with such power at my fingertips. Now I'm gonna set up a mic and start playing!

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Hah! Looks like Jim has a happy place to play the guitar and drums in smile.gif

Well, enjoy it, mate - say, maybe it slipped by me, but are you the one who's going to be playing drums as well? Or are you preparing for a sort of a band context? smile.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Dec 7 2014, 04:31 AM) *
Hah! Looks like Jim has a happy place to play the guitar and drums in smile.gif

Well, enjoy it, mate - say, maybe it slipped by me, but are you the one who's going to be playing drums as well? Or are you preparing for a sort of a band context? smile.gif


Haha! Yeah Its me.... I love drums but never had a place to set them up and they remained in storage. Here's a little clip playing after all these years. Not sure but playing drums is a great stress reliever. Even 10min of whack whack whack will definitely boost spirits.

However, it would be nice to play with other people so Yes I'd like to start a band.......

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Hehe! Awesome! Jim - I ALWAYS thought that playing the drums is the ultimate energy boost smile.gif

Check this out - this is the drummer that I played with in Voodoo and that I play with in Domination - the Pantera tribute band:





I'm think you might like him biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Dec 8 2014, 07:32 AM) *
Hehe! Awesome! Jim - I ALWAYS thought that playing the drums is the ultimate energy boost smile.gif

Check this out - this is the drummer that I played with in Voodoo and that I play with in Domination - the Pantera tribute band:





I'm think you might like him biggrin.gif


Oh boy that would be great to play with him! That sounds like a really fun thing Cosmin, congrats.

Also congrats to Gabriel for that awesome video. You guys are nuts!

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Thanks man! biggrin.gif He is a hell of a drummer! Well, you can tell Gabi in person, we will be very happy! biggrin.gif

So, now that you have the happy place set up - what's next on the agenda - practice wise? smile.gif

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When reading Your firhter posts I've simply remember the opening video on GMC (when You're not logged in). I think Kris got it all in that short welcome video. I had a student once. He had no feeling of the rhythm and could not repeat proper pitch with his voice. But...he was stubborn to get some lesson even he knew he should not. And gues what? Somehow he was able to explain things to himslef in a mathematical way, so he actually was able to learn some basic "holliday singing" techniques and he did play. He put a lot of work and we both did enjoyed it....and yes I'm sure my diagnose was proper but that's an example of how much You can achieve just buy a proper attitude and hard work smile.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Dec 11 2014, 05:43 AM) *
Thanks man! biggrin.gif He is a hell of a drummer! Well, you can tell Gabi in person, we will be very happy! biggrin.gif

So, now that you have the happy place set up - what's next on the agenda - practice wise? smile.gif


Well I'm not certain but I do know that I'll be working more with my voice and write songs. Tonight I recorded a vocal melody that I'd like to work out on guitar or add words and play rhythm guitar. I wish I could share my voice memo from my phone but there seems to be no easy way...

Either way I'm gonna put it in my daw and begin transcription. Actually when I do that I'll easily be able to share. The music that comes from my voice naturally has a lot going on and it's completely genuine to me. That's my goal, forming my own sound while still practicing lessons.

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I give it to you for best practice example wink.gif Use the lessons to learn concepts which then you apply in your own creations! This is a very healthy way of thinking and I am looking forward to seeing your vids, mate - plus, what lessons are you currently working on?

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