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Jul 6 2016, 11:10 AM | ||
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Jul 9 2016, 06:27 PM |
I was listening to a Pat Monahan podcast recently and he was talking to Jakob Dylan. Dylan had an interesting comment on album sales. He described an album sales figure that would make you a chart topper today. He then said that same sales figure 20 years ago would mean you're getting dropped from your label .
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Jul 10 2016, 07:49 AM |
If you're Adele then you're doing ok. That's about it.
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Jul 10 2016, 12:28 PM |
I knew it was bad, but not this bad!
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Jul 10 2016, 08:27 PM |
Part of the problem is that the world is in a creative low. Really? I don't see it that way at all. IMHO there's more great music being made today than ever before. By taking advantage of today's technology, Caelumamittendum can record songs that would have been impossible to create 20 years ago. It may seem like there is less great music because we no longer have the funnel of record labels/radio/MTV that created these massive cultural waves of music in years past. Now things are so fragmented that it's hard to recognize any cultural trends in music and I suspect some people might mistakenly think that means the musical scene isn't as creative as it once was. -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Jul 12 2016, 12:16 AM |
It's gotten bad in terms of the middle of the industry being cut out, and mostly folks at the very top making money. It's always been that way to a degree, but in the heyday of the CD (somewhere in the 90's) Mid Level acts could produce their own CDs and with an indie label or by touring constantly, they could make enough to earn a living.
Those days are mostly gone. There are a few exceptions of course, as there are with nearly every rule. But with the decline of physical media sales (cd's in particular) the entire economic base of the music industry started to collapse and it's been shrinking, as an industry, for years. Here is a handy chart It shows expenditures on media per type adjusted for inflation. The industry is down about 64% from it's "peak". For a long time, full album sales propped it up, then CDs. With digital, we have digital pennies not making up for analogue dollars. So the pie itself is getting smaller. Link to a very informative article where I got this graph. http://www.businessinsider.com/these-chart...industry-2011-2 Still, even with all this, there have never been a better time to be a musician IMHO. Due to the web/social media, you can get your work out there and have it seen by millions in ways that were not possible before. Pre 1995, you did it the old fashioned way for the most part. You sold albums/cds and you went on tour and sold merch. Otherwise, you "tape traded" for underground music or something similar. The trick is, how to make any income with music and music related activities. Assuming one wants to do that, of course. There is NOTHING wrong with keeping money out of it and making music just for the love of music, and sharing it for free on youtube/soundcloud/facebook/etc. If you do want to "monetize" your music, as I mentioned earlier, it's about diversifying yourself. Trying to license your music anywhere. To stock music services, to commercials, films, anything really. You have to start small, as with anything. E.G. Scoring a film for free for a friend who likes your music. Hoping that the movie does well and he asks again and can pay you the next time around. It's something you grow in to, just like music itself Don't forget the performance aspect as well, learning to read music can help you in places like Nashville, L.A., New York, where folks still hire session/studio players. Tina Guo https://www.youtube.com/user/demix500 (40k subscribers) is a Cellist who makes a wonderful living (after a decade of earning the crap out of it) and drives a porsche bought with money made from gigging/concerts/merch/etc. Ola Englund https://www.youtube.com/user/fearedse (106k subscribers) is great example of "Doing it from home" and turning youtube in a real gig. He has toured the world with Six Feet Under and now with THE HAUNTED. He was an office working for about a decade as he built his following on youtube. So it can be done You just have to be a bit original about how you approach it. So get creative and start building your audience once video/song at a time Todd I knew it was bad, but not this bad!
This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Jul 12 2016, 12:43 AM |
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Jul 13 2016, 01:52 AM |
Thanks much! I have a thread called PROMOTING YOUR MUSIC AND YOU that talks about various tips and tricks to get your music and yourself out to a wider audience. Here is the link It dives in to alternate distribution resources and promotional ideas. It's a thread with many responses and questions, but it's worth diving in to.
http://bit.ly/promotingyourmusic EVEN BETTER, here is a link to one of my articles specifically about promoting your music in the knowledge base in our wiki. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/inde..._And_Your_Music Todd Great "article" Todd
Maybe it could be a useful thread to have on GMC, to gather information, tips, experiences about getting your music "out there" Everybody knows FB, Youtube, etc but there are lots of other things you can do as an unsigned musician to give it a shot. Like : getting your music on iTunes, Spotify, Amazon, or any other "music canal". Or tips about creating a website, getting airplay or other useful subjects ... This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Jul 13 2016, 01:55 AM |
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Jul 13 2016, 11:48 AM |
Thanks much! I have a thread called PROMOTING YOUR MUSIC AND YOU that talks about various tips and tricks to get your music and yourself out to a wider audience. Here is the link It dives in to alternate distribution resources and promotional ideas. It's a thread with many responses and questions, but it's worth diving in to. http://bit.ly/promotingyourmusic EVEN BETTER, here is a link to one of my articles specifically about promoting your music in the knowledge base in our wiki. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/inde..._And_Your_Music Todd Super !! Thanks !! -------------------- Experienced Tone Seeker
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Aug 2 2016, 01:51 PM |
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Aug 4 2016, 04:48 PM |
I'll add the Euro, Asia, S. America, Africa, etc. numbers for gold and platinum have always been way lower than in the states. As low as 1000 units (Bulgaria) in some countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_music..._certifications In the 70s, 80s, and even early 90s - if an indie band could sell at least 5000 copies of their demo tape at shows or out the trunk of their car(?) - it would usually lead to a 'demo deal' with a label (or possibly with an independent 'producer'). That meant a budget of between 5 to 10 grand with a producer of their (the rec cos) choice. If the record co. liked the results, you'd get a deal to make an LP (and a video starting in the 80s - MTV). If you sold at least 60,000 units of that, you'd get one or two more chances to sell more. 200,000 to 350,000 units was considered a success. Not 'gold' but certainly profitable. Even if you only sold 100,000 records you usually wouldn't get dropped, especially if you were reasonably talented, cool and didn't put all the money up your nose. *Lots of now legendary artists and bands never sold 'gold' initially. There were TONS of bands/artists that were given a chance. Most failed to make a dent except of course the ones you ended up hearing. The indie scene was just as vibrant then as it is now. In fact it was probably bigger and there were way more places to play. Everybody recorded, especially by the early 80s. The Tascam Portastudio 144 debuted in 1979, wasn't really that expensive (about a $1000 US) compared to even making a cheap ass demo at a studio and many many bands/musicians got them. It might be a little easier now to physically 'make a record' (collection of songs archived in some way) but I don't think 1) any more folks are doing it than were doing it before (less people in the world are interested in music anymore - tech is the new rock star). 2) The talent isn't any better (or worse). 3) Just being able to record doesn't mean it's any good or that it should be recorded or that anybody even listens to it. *You can do it all yourself in your bedroom, take all the profit but you still gotta get people to listen. It's NEVER been any different, ever. This post has been edited by klasaine: Aug 5 2016, 02:58 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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