Bare Knuckle Ragnarok |
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Bare Knuckle Ragnarok |
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Oct 4 2017, 11:38 PM |
The vol. and tone pots would probably need to change too.
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Oct 5 2017, 02:24 AM |
It's so hard to shop for pickups because nobody can demonstrate for you what it will sound like in your guitar. But relative to the Juggernaut, the Ragnarok is designed to be more aggressive. More like a Painkiller. The Juggernaut trades some of that aggressiveness for a less harsh tone, especially when playing high solo notes. So, if you were looking for something aggressive to begin with, you'll probably be happy with the Ragnarok.
But Mertay is right. Switching from active to passive can be tricky and you'll probably have to change some other electronics on your guitar. All Bare Knuckle pickups can be used with coil tapping/splitting to give you a single coil sound on demand. But you'd need something to control the tap, like a new switch or a push-pull volume pot. Otherwise, no, you don't need another knob. This post has been edited by Rammikin: Oct 5 2017, 02:29 AM -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Oct 5 2017, 01:06 PM |
I have a killswitch on my guitar... that I don't really use at all. The older Iron Labels have a killswitch, the newer ones have a coiltap using the switch. Do you think it can be used to repurpose as a Coil tap? My switch to toggle between 3 positions... top, middle and bottom.... I've obviously known what the top and bottom did... but I truthfully have never known what the middle did for sure. I assumed it played both at the same time, but I'm now just realizing, and perhaps I'm wrong, that it plays one Coil from each pickup? Is that right on a 3 position switch? The Iron Label electronics have changed over the years, but I doubt the ones that came with EMG pickups use a single coil from each pickup in the middle position. I wouldn't worry too much about the coil splitting. I know Misha demonstrates that, but realistically, that's not what a Ragnarok is designed for. Personally, I would find a kill switch more useful than being able to play a single coil from one pickup. But if you really want a single coil from a single pickup, you have options that don't require losing the kill switch: a push pull volume pot, replace your 3-way switch with a 5-way, drill a hole for a new switch, etc. Or, yes, you could also replace the kill switch with a coil split switch. Just get the 4 conductor option when you buy the Ragnarok. This post has been edited by Rammikin: Oct 5 2017, 01:13 PM -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Oct 5 2017, 02:38 PM |
I really don't want to rain on your parade, because being excited and enjoying your guitar are #1. That said, if it were me, I wouldn't buy the Ragnaroks and here's why.
My experience is that once achieving a basic minimum quality (which includes all major brands) pickups aren't "better" just different. Trying to find the ones you really like is hard because experimentation costs money. There's going to be a noticeable difference when switching from active to passive or high output ceramic vs vintage alnico but within those categories the differences are more subtle. You're just as likely to like a used Nazgul set, etc... as you are the Ragnarok, you just won't know until you try. Cost - $300 pickups + $100-$150 installation = $450 For this price you could just buy another whole used guitar with high quality passive pickups already installed. On the other hand that's not so true if you can learn to install the pickups yourself. If you can solder then just about anyone should be able to follow the directions and maintain their own guitar electronics. If you can, I'd actually be more in favor of the Ragnaroks because you can always remove them yourself and re-sell/keep them if you change guitars. Otherwise, they'll be bonded forever with that Iron Label and you'll take a big loss if you ever want to sell. Lastly, completely ignore the marketing copy. Words cannot capture more than the broad differences in pickups. I mean read these side by side, they all say the exact same thing. "Active humbuckers have a distinctive sound: powerful, clean, open-sounding, with excellent harmonic overtones and very tight lows. This also fits the description of a great 7-string pickup, if the problems associated with active pickups — sterile sound and limited headroom — could be eliminated. The _____ models do just that. The ____ Bridge has the same loud yet clean sound as the best active humbuckers, and killer harmonics. The low “B” string is all about attack, not mud. It responds instantly to hard or light picking. In a word: it rocks. No batteries required." "Take your guitar to the center of the earth! By combining a large ceramic magnet with custom winding specs, the ____ offers the perfect blend of note articulation, saturation and one of the most brutal “chugs” you’ll ever hear from a humbucker. It has incredible harmonic content across all frequency ranges, and an insanely tight bass response. The _____ has a seriously aggressive high gain sound that is lively, yet completely controllable." "The _____ is a chunky, fat sounding pickup that’s also devastatingly tight and aggressive; a hot ceramic pickup with a smooth top end and incredible clarity... The ______ fulfils a seemingly impossible remit - a chunky, fat sounding pickup that’s also devastatingly tight and aggressive; a hot ceramic pickup with a smooth top end and incredible clarity. Even the cleans and low gain tones have a fantastic voice. I didn’t think this could be done!" In the end, get whatever you like that makes you excited about picking up your guitar, that's the most important. -------------------- |
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Oct 5 2017, 07:48 PM |
I apologize with my lack of knowledge in constructing a guitar. I feel like the noob at the table. Haha. But, I have more questions and comments to what you said. 1. My switch is 3 way now... going to a 5 way, what do those extra positions add? Just some coil splits? Sounds like that may not be a big deal to me, but if its not that much more, I might as well go for the versatility. Would you care to give me an example of what all 5 positions on the 5 way switch might do? You can wire a 5 way switch to do two additional things even though you only have 2 pickups. For example you could use one position to run both pickups split in parallel. A five way switch is usually deeper, but you probably have room in your cavity. Yoncopin in the person to ask about things like this. QUOTE 2. A very noooob question here, but Ive never known and I have always assumed this. On my 3 way position switch, the middle position.... does it use both pickups and all coils? Yes, on your guitar it runs both pickups all coils. Like a Les Paul. QUOTE 3. My Hellraiser has a coil tap on its volume knob. I really like it there, and I really like the coil tap. Do you suppose that would be an inexpensive thing to add? Like Yoncopin said, it all depends on whether you can do it yourself . QUOTE 4. Tone Knob, I am really confused why my guitar does not have it. Is this something you think that might be worth adding? Or not that big of a deal? That's the purpose of the Iron Label line. It's supposed to be stripped down and all business. Some people use their tone knob. I don't. It just causes problems when I accidentally nudge it . -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Oct 6 2017, 08:05 AM |
Cost - $300 pickups + $100-$150 installation = $450 For this price you could just buy another whole used guitar with high quality passive pickups already installed. On the other hand that's not so true if you can learn to install the pickups yourself. If you can solder then just about anyone should be able to follow the directions and maintain their own guitar electronics. If you can, I'd actually be more in favor of the Ragnaroks because you can always remove them yourself and re-sell/keep them if you change guitars. Otherwise, they'll be bonded forever with that Iron Label and you'll take a big loss if you ever want to sell. Good points here. For me, I have waited more than 15 years before starting to experiment with pickups - so it hasn't really been a priority. However now the time is right because I have enough experience from different guitars/amps/sounds to understand what role the pickups play. I agree that you shouldn't be afraid to try to install the pickups on your own. I cannot really think of anything you can do that wouldn't be reversible. The way I see it the worst case scenario is that you are going to have to take your guitar to a luthier and have them redo the job you attempted. In the end, get whatever you like that makes you excited about picking up your guitar, that's the most important. Amen! |
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Oct 6 2017, 06:17 PM |
Yeah I saw Misha talk about this new pickup in a YouTube ad. I had to remind myself I had already ordered Seymour Duncan. My guitar isn't good enough for BK.
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