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Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 13 2011, 10:52 AM

Very self explanatory topic title here...

What's your favourite drum sound ?

I like really dry, boney, natural drum sounds like these:



Check out the tom sound on this, it's killer !




Posted by: JkB Jul 13 2011, 11:26 AM

Sadly I don't pay that much attention to the drums when i listen to music. I know i should sad.gif
However I've always been impressed by the drums in this band, both for the sound and the playing smile.gif



I also like the drums in Periphery or Opeth but the rest of the time i just don't think that much about drums. I suppose i like a more dense sound. I don't like the durms that muchin the songs you posted



Oh and by the way, The Reign of Kindo kicks some serious ass they have a bunch of videos of the candyrat channel so check them out if you don't know them tongue.gif

Posted by: zen Jul 13 2011, 11:33 AM

I mostly take notice of drum sound when it really sucks.. Like it did on St Anger when my ears started to bleed with that sound and I got some utensils from the kitchen to replicate the sound.

I enjoy various types of sounds though right from old school classic kits to the new age sharper / tighter kits/ sounds.
I also enjoy listening to drums live more. That's when I really take notice coz every bass drum n snare sound really hits you tongue.gif

Here's a good live sound that I dont mind at all.


Posted by: tonymiro Jul 13 2011, 01:08 PM

Well some of my favourites are Billy Cobham's sound from back in the 60s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKYGa8A9Fog&feature=related. And more recentlt Steve Smith fromVital Transformtion/Vital Information http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md2X3owwkNs and Chad Wackerman (Allan Holdsworth) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdlXW89E2ts.

Oh and another was Bill Bruford from when he was in UK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwDnNGskWUY&feature=related and a little later in his own band

All have very natural, organic sounds with good dynamics and the drum mixes sit very well in their respective bands. One thing you can here in the move from Cobham to Wackerman is how drums now are often more forward in a mix - to a point that in some instances they are too forward imho.

Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 13 2011, 01:50 PM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jul 13 2011, 01:08 PM) *
Well some of my favourites are Billy Cobham's sound from back in the 60s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKYGa8A9Fog&feature=related. And more recentlt Steve Smith fromVital Transformtion/Vital Information http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md2X3owwkNs and Chad Wackerman (Allan Holdsworth) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdlXW89E2ts.

Oh and another was Bill Bruford from when he was in UK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwDnNGskWUY&feature=related and a little later in his own band

All have very natural, organic sounds with good dynamics and the drum mixes sit very well in their respective bands. One thing you can here in the move from Cobham to Wackerman is how drums now are often more forward in a mix - to a point that in some instances they are too forward imho.


I'm loving that Billy Cobham clip... I've got his solo 'Crosswinds'.. I got it back when I was going through an adventerous music phase.. It's a bit jazzy for me but the drumming is excellent. Also, guys like these are real artists and know how to tune their kit.

Bill Bruford is also excellent.. love his playing on King Crimson's 'Red' album ! smile.gif

They've got that thumpy, 'wet' tom sound.. the drums on that Megadeth clip I posted remind me of a later, more 'metal' version of their kind of tone. cool.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Jul 13 2011, 03:03 PM

Cobham is a bit jazzy but also very versatile - as a kid I kind of grew up on 60s jazz so heard a lot of Cobham smile.gif .

Red's a great lp - Discipline is another great King Crimson and has Adrian Belew with Fripp on guitar as well (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsBRQrJ30Bw&feature=relatedBruford soloing Indiscipline form that lp). If you like Bruford Ben try and check out some his solo stuff like Beezlebub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWG8uKaFyfA&feature=related (which I think was also on the Masterstrokes lp, One of a Perfect Pair and one of the old Gong lps).

Someone on the feedback comments to the the Indiscipline take mentions Tony Williams - he was another greta Drummer if you like fusion. Tony Williams' Lifetime were a great fusion band. Link that connects them all sis of course Allan Holdsworth.

Posted by: tonymiro Jul 13 2011, 03:33 PM

QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 13 2011, 01:50 PM) *
... Also, guys like these are real artists and know how to tune their kit.

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I think that's a really important factor.

Plus they were very well tracked and mixed, usually using very good analogue outboard and appropriate compressors. TBH one of the downsides with the modern DAWl age is that a lot of home/project studio drum mixes suffer as the micing used (both the actual mics and the positioning) isn't great and that is then compounded by poor use, quality and choice of compressor.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jul 13 2011, 03:46 PM

I love Josh Freese playing and sound.. even more in this album..



Posted by: Qenzoz Jul 13 2011, 04:49 PM

Well I like
Chad Smith (Red Hot Chili Peppers)
Dave Grohl (Them Crooked Vultures/Queens of the Stone Age - Songs for the Deaf album)
Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater/Liquid Tension Experiment)
Danny Carey (Tool)
John Dolmayan (System of a Down)

And more biggrin.gif, but I don't really have any favorite drum sound, if I like the drums I listen to it, if I dislike it I wont, simple as that tongue.gif

Posted by: The Uncreator Jul 13 2011, 06:48 PM

George Kollias - especially the snare at the end, thats gotta be my favorite snare sound. It just cracks perfectly and has such a warm sound.



Hannes Grossman - I think this would be my most loved, its so versatile, sounds great in every application. Wish SSD had a Hanness Grossman kit. The way the pattern comes together after the solo at around 3:30 - Just love it.


Nicko McBrain - warm tone, lots of character and dynamic, this is what made me notice drumming for the first time.




Posted by: Bogdan Radovic Jul 13 2011, 07:22 PM

This sound of drums has been my favorite for a long time now.
I love the overall sound and especially the snare drum.

Here is how it sounds :

Posted by: Mudbone Jul 13 2011, 10:52 PM

Favorite drum sound has to be on Metallica's Black album. Clear. Crisp. Enormous.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Jul 14 2011, 04:57 AM

QUOTE (Mudbone @ Jul 13 2011, 04:52 PM) *
Favorite drum sound has to be on Metallica's Black album. Clear. Crisp. Enormous.


A fine pull to be sure. I"d have to throw in HEARTWORK from Carcass. The youtube version sounds a bit crap though.




and Perhaps Ride the Lightening or Master of Puppets from Metallica as well. Again youtube version sounds a tad crappy. Honestly, most MP3s sound a bit crappy as well if you listen on Studio Quality Monitors. You'd be shocked what the music you love sounds like when you actually hear whats happening in the mix. But to do that, you need nice monitors/speakers, maybe a sub woofer, and an FLAC / AIFF / WAV sound file or (gasp) an actual CD.



Posted by: tonymiro Jul 14 2011, 10:10 AM

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 14 2011, 04:57 AM) *
... Again youtube version sounds a tad crappy. Honestly, most MP3s sound a bit crappy as well if you listen on Studio Quality Monitors. You'd be shocked what the music you love sounds like when you actually hear whats happening in the mix. But to do that, you need nice monitors/speakers, maybe a sub woofer, and an FLAC / AIFF / WAV sound file or (gasp) an actual CD.

...


Very true Todd though I'd go a little further and say all mp3s...

Posted by: Ben Higgins Jul 14 2011, 10:11 AM

Wow, some nice examples here....

QUOTE (Mudbone @ Jul 13 2011, 10:52 PM) *
Favorite drum sound has to be on Metallica's Black album. Clear. Crisp. Enormous.


Yep, I was going to add that as an example but I had 2 already and didn't want to be greedy... cool.gif Excellent, excellent sound !

Posted by: Cosmin Lupu Jul 14 2011, 04:47 PM

QUOTE (JkB @ Jul 13 2011, 10:26 AM) *
Sadly I don't pay that much attention to the drums when i listen to music. I know i should sad.gif
However I've always been impressed by the drums in this band, both for the sound and the playing smile.gif



I also like the drums in Periphery or Opeth but the rest of the time i just don't think that much about drums. I suppose i like a more dense sound. I don't like the durms that muchin the songs you posted



Oh and by the way, The Reign of Kindo kicks some serious ass they have a bunch of videos of the candyrat channel so check them out if you don't know them tongue.gif


Periphery is all in all a killer band and Matt (their drummer) happens to be among my favorite drummers out there biggrin.gif

Posted by: The Uncreator Jul 15 2011, 04:08 AM

QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 14 2011, 11:47 AM) *
Periphery is all in all a killer band and Matt (their drummer) happens to be among my favorite drummers out there biggrin.gif


"...On drum we have Matt Halpern! The only man who can break three cymbals with one swing of the stick!"

God I love that laugh.gif

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