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Dec 20 2013, 03:16 PM
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No no...we don't want any compressor yet. We want EQ.I have Reaper installed on my home PC so I'll send You an example later
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Dec 22 2013, 08:36 AM
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I took the liberty of processing your clean lead through the same patch I used for the white snake collab which is the DEVIN EPIC LEAD patch from the GUITAR GODS expansion pack for EZ MIX 2.
EZ MIX 2 involves very little tweaking so I think you'd like at especially at first. You will eventually outgrow it of course, but being able to get "one click decent tone" is thing a beauty. You can download the demo for free for the expansion pack costs extra. They are all on sale just now for xmas I think. Theres a good bit of delay but the overall tone is not bad at all for one click  Let me know what you think.
Cursin_Toddmix_toontrackguitargods.mp3 ( 1.6MB )
Number of downloads: 125QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Dec 20 2013, 10:58 AM)  ok , I have have purged the track of compressor and anxiously await next instructions |
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Jan 1 2014, 06:31 PM
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No worries. We will work with the gear You like
Fortunately there is a demo of triode available and it's not a trial so we can easily work with it Yes - Your thoughts are correct - the more distortion You give, the more compression is added to the signal. This is why the mic track looks so full and the raw line-in guitar are so different in signal amplitude diagrams. DAW doesn't display the diagram of tone "post plug-ins" but as You noticed when You make a mixdown both (miced amp and guitar through plug-in) look similar Unfortunately many of cheap mics doesn't sound good with guitar because they have a lack of midrange and some boost in high end (vocal presence). When You use it for guitar it adds some extra harsh frequencies. Also...even the reference guitar mics are not "true bypass" ...the do not give exactly what You hear. Most of them (as sm57) has at least a 5dB boost in the 3-6 ( 5 is usually the most boosted value) kHz. This mean that if You bring the mic to the coil, You have to cut those in EQ to have a sound similar to what You hear from the real amp. Analyzing mic frequency response helps a lot to understand what is going on with the tone. Of course the case is not as simple as my explanation - You always have to experiment with the cut value and Q for the "mic boost compensation. But it's good to know where to start. Let get through some of Your files. I decided to make an experiment over Your amp miced tone. I've added the mentioned eq correction (You can add similar values in the reaper eq. As You can see I made a cut in the 5-6 kHz range and added Low Pass filter to get rid of 8 kHz and higher junk frequencies. Of Course You might consider this tone being too fat but when We get rid of the harshness it's much easier to get heavy, yet balanced tone. You can try this out in reaper Here's an audio sample - processed vs raw order:
jstcrn_aduio_sample.wav ( 11.1MB )
Number of downloads: 125here is the eq I've added:  As for Your plug-in tone it sound pretty nice now - it's ready for a further edition (to fit the mix, not to tweak the tone "just because". IT has nice midrange. Again needs only to get rid of some junk treble and a bit of "boxy" 300-500 Hz range. Here is a screen of what I would suggest to do  Try to use the tone from the "plug-in" track You sent me and pout it again in the mix. Add this eq and we'll skip to guitar vs backing track tone match |
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