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GMC_student444 View Member Profile	May 23 2008, 12:01 PM
May 23 2008, 12:01 PM	GMC:er Posts: 20 Joined: 10-March 08 From: Sweden	What's best really, doing technique exercises or practice songs where that certain technique you wanna learn is used? I usually here a song and want to learn certain sections in it. Should I try and find good exercises for it or just dive right into learning the song?/ Johnny You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Bogdan Radovic View Member Profile	May 23 2008, 12:46 PM
May 23 2008, 12:46 PM	Bass & Beginner Instructor Posts: 15.614 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Well I find exercises much better option...Best way is to do exercises and than when you get bored with them try to do the songs etc...With exercises you are very much focused on particular technique and they are in repetitive form so you are very efficient.. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net Check out my lessons and my instructor board. Check out my beginner guitar lessons course! ; Take a bass course now!

OrganisedConfusi... OrganisedConfusion View Member Profile	May 23 2008, 12:48 PM
May 23 2008, 12:48 PM	GMC:er Posts: 5.635 Joined: 29-November 07 From: Nottingham, UK	Both to be honest. Practice the exercises and then learn your favourite songs with those exercises and then try and incorporate the exercises and techniques into your own songs. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear Guitars:- Caparison Horus Snowcloud, Parker Nitefly M, Parker Nitefly SA, Gibson SG, Parker P10e, 40 Year Old Spanish Acoustic Amps:- Framus Ruby Riot 2x12" stack

Iluha View Member Profile	May 23 2008, 01:11 PM
May 23 2008, 01:11 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.737 Joined: 14-April 07 From: Karmiel, Israel	This is what I do when I hear a section I like in a song, first I try to learn it but if I see it's too complicated for me right now, I use a basic exercise of the technique being used(for example, if I want to learn a lick in a Satriani song, more than likely I'll practice a legato exercise), and aftar a while try again, ussually I can learn that troublesome section by than. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Latest Upload: Here! My Practice Agenda/Blog: Here!

DeepRoots View Member Profile	May 23 2008, 01:14 PM
May 23 2008, 01:14 PM	Get to da Chopper! Posts: 2.700 Joined: 18-March 07 From: South Wales, UK	The way i see it is: You hear a song where a certaing technique is used... You do a bunch of exercises for that technique... You practise the song in sections over and over... You reward yourself with the treat of playing the song all the way through You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	May 23 2008, 01:27 PM
May 23 2008, 01:27 PM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Exercises are definitely more effective because you practice structured stuff with metronome. When you practice a song you can divide it into smaller sections and make exercises. That's the way it works generally. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

Hisham Al-Sanea View Member Profile	May 23 2008, 01:46 PM
May 23 2008, 01:46 PM	Instructor Posts: 4.085 Joined: 19-October 07 From: middle east / lebanon	to start with exercise would be better You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- email me *my video lessons* *instructor board*

Scott Gentzen View Member Profile	May 23 2008, 01:54 PM
May 23 2008, 01:54 PM	GMC:er Posts: 683 Joined: 16-January 07 From: Centreville, VA, USA	QUOTE (Johnny Göthe Norlin @ May 23 2008, 07:01 AM) What's best really, doing technique exercises or practice songs where that certain technique you wanna learn is used? I usually here a song and want to learn certain sections in it. Should I try and find good exercises for it or just dive right into learning the song?/ Johnny I try to go back and forth depending on how much time I have. I don't generally have the ability to practice for hours at a time but if I have time I usually start with chromatic runs, then into scales, and either work on a GLC lesson or a song. I pretty much always do it in that order, so if I have less time, I'm less likely to get to the music part. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitars: ESP Semi-Hollow Eclipse, 1984 Ibanez Roadstar RS440, Peavey T-60, Daisy Rock Rock Candy Custom Amps: Peavey Transformer 112, Epiphone Valve Jr head with custom 2x12 cab Pedals: Boss TU-2, Budda Bud-Wah, Chuck Collins Harmonic Percolator clone

rokchik View Member Profile	May 23 2008, 02:13 PM
May 23 2008, 02:13 PM	The Dark Canuck Posts: 2.729 Joined: 22-March 07 From: The Great White North	I find both to be useful. I've noticed that with the more techniques I learn through exercises the easier I can now recognize them in the songs I want to learn, so it makes the songs easier. The songs make the techniques more fun to learn, it's not so monotonous, and also the songs show how the techniques can be used so it gives me ideas on how to use them. (I hope that made sense) rok You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

mattacuk View Member Profile	May 23 2008, 02:21 PM
May 23 2008, 02:21 PM	Lets go fishing! Posts: 5.526 Joined: 21-December 06 From: illinois	IMO Excercises are the way to go. This is because if your learning your favorite songs without a solid skill set there going to sound sloppy, and never as good as the original. Choose exercises from the GMC video archive that match the kind of stuff you want to play! edit: In addition, many GMC lessons are complete songs! You can practice each technique seperate to build up skills You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by mattacuk: May 23 2008, 02:39 PM -------------------- *mysql> SELECT FROM master_name WHERE ((firstname = 'Paul') AND (lastname = 'Gilbert')); "The Fundimental Difference between Paul Gilbert and Buckethead is that Paul Explores the Good side of the force, while Buckethead Explores the Dark Side of the Force" :)**

Bogdan Radovic View Member Profile	May 23 2008, 04:23 PM
May 23 2008, 04:23 PM	Bass & Beginner Instructor Posts: 15.614 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	There are lot of song lessons here on GMC , but I was referring on normal songs..I find GMC lessons constructed with particular techniques in mind and they are great exercises for them - but packed in a fun song kind of way So basicly fun focused exercises/songs. Combining both can be a key to success (exercises and songs)..But you should not disregard any of them.. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net Check out my lessons and my instructor board. Check out my beginner guitar lessons course! ; Take a bass course now!

Jenkinson View Member Profile	May 23 2008, 05:20 PM
May 23 2008, 05:20 PM	GMC:er Posts: 269 Joined: 8-August 07 From: Austin / San Antonio , Texas	I agree with the posts above, I start with exercises, and then watch my ability to play certian passages in songs get better. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Practice Group

GMC_student444 View Member Profile	May 24 2008, 09:11 AM
May 24 2008, 09:11 AM	GMC:er Posts: 20 Joined: 10-March 08 From: Sweden	QUOTE (mattacuk @ May 23 2008, 03:21 PM) IMO Excercises are the way to go. This is because if your learning your favorite songs without a solid skill set there going to sound sloppy, and never as good as the original. Choose exercises from the GMC video archive that match the kind of stuff you want to play! edit: In addition, many GMC lessons are complete songs! You can practice each technique seperate to build up skills Thanks everyone for your replies. That's what I've been experiencing and felt in the back of my mind. The "quality" of the certain techniques learned is less than if I would've learned 'em doing exercises to a metronome. Thanks again everyone. Back to practicing. / Johnny You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

mattacuk View Member Profile	May 24 2008, 09:30 AM
May 24 2008, 09:30 AM	Lets go fishing! Posts: 5.526 Joined: 21-December 06 From: illinois	Awsome !! I often like to choose lesson that are musical too, this gives the feeling of accomplishing a peice of music as it were. Such examples are Marcus's Winding Roads just for example! Break them down, practice it induvidually with a metronome and you will feel your skills rise!! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- *mysql> SELECT FROM master_name WHERE ((firstname = 'Paul') AND (lastname = 'Gilbert')); "The Fundimental Difference between Paul Gilbert and Buckethead is that Paul Explores the Good side of the force, while Buckethead Explores the Dark Side of the Force" :)**

Trond Vold View Member Profile	May 25 2008, 02:51 AM
May 25 2008, 02:51 AM	Instructor Posts: 3.497 Joined: 16-February 08 From: Norge!	I prefer to learn the song actually. For me it was easier to learn the techniques when i could play along with the music. I cant remember any time i practiced with just a metronome. Well, both ways work.. but i can just as well recommend learning the song where the technique is used. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Trond Vold: May 25 2008, 02:52 AM -------------------- Guitars: Schecter Stiletto Classic, Jackson SLSMG, Ibanez RG-380 Japan, Gibson Les Paul Studio Amp: Marshall JMP-1 -> Rocktron Velocity 100 -> Marshall JCM-900 Lead 4x12 FX and stomps: T.C Electronics G-Sharp, Korg SDD-1200, Emma Transmorgrifier, BYOC Tribooster, GGG Green Ringer, Dinosaur Overdrive, Voodoo Lab SuperFuzz, Sovtek Bassballs, Line6 Tap Tremolo, EHX Screaming Bird. ___________________________________________________ My Lessons! My Instructor Board! My Myspace!

Daniel Robinson View Member Profile	May 25 2008, 04:23 AM
May 25 2008, 04:23 AM	Instructor Posts: 560 Joined: 22-March 08 From: Normal, Illinois	I guess i am backwards like Trond, i tend to learn the songs as i play along i learn the technique. For some reason it puts me in a different frame of mind, the music distracts me from thinking too hard and the technique seems to flow faster. I notice this quite often actually, even melodic excersises. When trying to practice with metronome i mess up quite a bit. But when playing along with a backing track my mind is focused on the music and for some reason its like some sort of Zen moment. I am not a Buddist btw, but its the only way i could relay what i meant. Somehow the backing distracts me and the excersise just flows. Its weird but thats how i learn best. Daniel You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my video lessons!

fkalich View Member Profile	May 25 2008, 04:47 AM
May 25 2008, 04:47 AM	GMC:er Posts: 2.789 Joined: 12-February 07 From: People's Republic of Lawrence Kansas	was going to say something, changed my mind. edit 2: now changed again. I do lessons. I have a few very difficult songs from earlier that I continue to try and improve. But I won't be doing new songs, probably ever, just lessons. If I do any new songs in the future, I expect it will be on acoustic. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by fkalich: May 25 2008, 06:19 AM

Pablo Vazquez View Member Profile	May 25 2008, 06:09 PM
May 25 2008, 06:09 PM	Instructor Posts: 1.873 Joined: 1-November 07 From: Argentina	In my opinion... both 2! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my video lessons!

blindwillie View Member Profile	May 26 2008, 07:39 AM
May 26 2008, 07:39 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.533 Joined: 28-March 07 From: Luleå, Sweden	QUOTE (Iluha @ May 23 2008, 02:11 PM) This is what I do when I hear a section I like in a song, first I try to learn it but if I see it's too complicated for me right now, I use a basic exercise of the technique being used(for example, if I want to learn a lick in a Satriani song, more than likely I'll practice a legato exercise), and aftar a while try again, ussually I can learn that troublesome section by than. That's how I approach it too. Just doing exercises gets boring to me, but practising a certain techique for a song is more rewarding when you see you get closer and closer to be able to play the song. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Schecter C1 Hellraiser EMG 81/85, replaced with JB/Jazz (SH4/SH2n) w. coilsplit Schecter Revenger HB-105, replaced with EMG 81/85 Stratocaster Deluxe Players Noiseless Ibanez 2550z Blackstar HT5H, Blackheart BH5H w. BH112, Laney LX35D, Line6 Pod XT, Marshall MS-2 Headphones: Sennheiser RS120 Stay tuned...

Juan M. Valero View Member Profile	May 26 2008, 12:23 PM
May 26 2008, 12:23 PM	Instructor Posts: 4.270 Joined: 6-August 07 From: Girona - Spain	both ways are correct. One interesting thing is to play songs and practice the most difficult parts with some similar exercises You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Visit : www.myspace.com/juanmvalero Video lessons ; Instructor board ; Recording lessons

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