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Iconoclast View Member Profile	Nov 25 2007, 12:53 PM
Nov 25 2007, 12:53 PM	GMC:er Posts: 8 Joined: 1-November 07	I play a JEM and I usually love the Floyd Rose. It never goes out of tune for me. But my only problem with it is that its soo hard to downtune. I can tune it normally, no problem, but I'm trying to get it to C F A# D# G C, and if anyone has any tips on going about doing it, I would really appreciate it. I'm actually seriously considering buying another guitar just for alternate tunings, but I don't have anywhere near the money right now. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

axelsson View Member Profile	Nov 25 2007, 12:59 PM
Nov 25 2007, 12:59 PM	GMC:er Posts: 201 Joined: 13-October 07 From: Sweden	visit any nearby music store, I'm sure they'll help you! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

botoxfox View Member Profile	Nov 25 2007, 01:07 PM
Nov 25 2007, 01:07 PM	GMC:er Posts: 2.570 Joined: 20-February 07	Use thicker strings and mess with the springs or buy a tremol-no... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Try this fun little "game"!

ZakkWylde View Member Profile	Nov 25 2007, 02:15 PM
Nov 25 2007, 02:15 PM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 3.185 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Germany	This has nothing to do with thicker strings, you have to set up your whole guitar for that tuning. The springs that keep the tremolo floating must be untightened so that the bridge is floating at the right hight when you detuned it. When you know what youre doing,it takes you at least 1 to set up ypur guitar new for a lower tuning and you cant just go back to normal without setting it up for standard again. Quote Pavel: Once you set up your guitar right do never ever touch it again. So if you want a diffrent tuning on a floyd rose guitar you'll have to keep it detuned or you'll have to buy another guitar. Like the others said take one without trem so you change tunings in a couple of minutes. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear: - Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85 - Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85 - Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton - Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab - Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp - Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster

The Uncreator View Member Profile	Nov 25 2007, 02:15 PM
Nov 25 2007, 02:15 PM	Fire Up The Blades, Moderator Posts: 8.933 Joined: 6-March 07 From: St. Petersburg, Florida	Few steps that go into this. 1) Adjust any string size you wish to have (if needed, if you do, you will have to adjust the intonation more than likely) 2) Since your going a whole two steps down, just take all the strings out 3) put in the new strings and start tuning up to C, once you have done this, you will have to flip the guitar over to the back, and loosen the bridge springs quite a bit. Cause theres a 99% chance the bridge will not be properly aligned. 4) Keep adjusting the springs and retuning the strings, when you get all the strings relatively close to C Standard, lock the strings at the nut, and use the fine tuners to finish the job You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by The Uncreator: Nov 25 2007, 02:17 PM

Pavel View Member Profile	Nov 25 2007, 02:51 PM
Nov 25 2007, 02:51 PM	Instructor Posts: 3.764 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Rijeka, Croatia	Getting another guitar is the best solution for this problem! If you usually play on standard tunings and actually learn lessons here which are all on standard tunings you should have 1 guitar at normal tuning and another one which you will tune as you like. Also if you like to change tunings often, i suggest you get a guitar without the tremolo. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- "It isn't how many years you have been playing, it's how many hours." -- Prashant Aswani "PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!" -- Michael Angelo Batio Check out my video lessons and instructor board!

The Uncreator View Member Profile	Nov 25 2007, 03:20 PM
Nov 25 2007, 03:20 PM	Fire Up The Blades, Moderator Posts: 8.933 Joined: 6-March 07 From: St. Petersburg, Florida	yeah i agree with Pavel, its best to invest in a mid-end guitar with a hardtail bridge or something, so you can change tunings often You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Iconoclast View Member Profile	Nov 25 2007, 03:55 PM
Nov 25 2007, 03:55 PM	GMC:er Posts: 8 Joined: 1-November 07	Yeah, thanks. I guess I could use my old beat up guitar for now whenever I use a different tuning. I don't want to have to do all that stuff just to tune down. At least I don't tune down very often. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

dogman View Member Profile	Nov 25 2007, 05:07 PM
Nov 25 2007, 05:07 PM	GMC:er Posts: 134 Joined: 12-December 06	QUOTE (Pavel @ Nov 25 2007, 08:51 AM) Getting another guitar is the best solution for this problem! If you usually play on standard tunings and actually learn lessons here which are all on standard tunings you should have 1 guitar at normal tuning and another one which you will tune as you like. Also if you like to change tunings often, i suggest you get a guitar without the tremolo. Pavel said it best. But the biggest reason in suggesting another guitar is such drastic tunings make a huge difference in tension on the neck. Going from E or Eb down to D and/or C# will cause the neck to no longer stay straight. Yes, you can adjust the bridge and spring tension on the floyd but that will not solve the problem when you can slide one of your fingers under the strings next week because the neck has to be adjusted to the tension of any particular tuning you are using. I only play in 3 (E, Eb and drop D) tunings so I have 3 guitars set up and tuned accordingly and I leave them that way. I also have 3 backs ups to play out set up the same way just in case. It's never good to switch between tunings. Not even the half steps of E and Eb. Have you ever noticed that after while of playing you dont get those harmonics as easily, the action is a little higher or the notes dont sing as long? I am not saying it's just because you change tunings when you try to learn new songs and play different stuff, but it doesnt help and you will probably need a new set up more frequently than if you didnt. Just my 2cents You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

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