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GMC Forum _ GEAR & PRODUCTION _ Yet Another New Guitar Day!
Posted by: Praetorian Jul 14 2010, 03:26 AM
Ok...I have been gassing hard for a Les Paul and I finally found this one on www.chrisguitars.com I live very close to Chris and was able to see it in person first. It is a 1995 Gibson Les Paul Studio, Wine Red with Gold hardware. It has some nicks and scuffs, typical of a 15 year old guitar but nothing major. Still getting used to the Les Paul shape and thick neck, but it plays great!
Posted by: kahall Jul 14 2010, 03:29 AM
I like it.
Posted by: Crazy_Diamond Jul 14 2010, 03:45 AM
Nice guitar man !!! I would love to get one of those.
Posted by: NoSkill Jul 14 2010, 04:58 AM
Awesome guitar man! I love it!
Posted by: Fran Jul 14 2010, 03:28 PM
Great axe, may it serve you well 
Posted by: Adrian Figallo Jul 14 2010, 04:38 PM
woaa 15 years , lovely!
Posted by: ZakkWylde Jul 14 2010, 04:42 PM
Beautiful!
Posted by: skennington Jul 14 2010, 04:49 PM
Cool aquisition there Ben! Hope you can get used to the style. Unfortunately for me, I couldn't. 
Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jul 14 2010, 10:12 PM
Woow, that's beautiful LP Studio man, congratulations!
Posted by: Toni Suominen Jul 23 2010, 06:11 AM
Congrats, looks very nice!
Posted by: Lian Gerbino Jul 23 2010, 02:29 PM
awesome guitar!!! but, I cannot say the same from the pink case LOL!!!
congrats 
Posted by: zen Jul 24 2010, 05:48 AM
Sweet
Posted by: maharzan Jul 24 2010, 07:14 AM
Have a happy honeymoon!
Posted by: Sollesnes Jul 24 2010, 10:11 AM
I love that finish, congrats
Posted by: Praetorian Jul 24 2010, 04:28 PM
This is going to sound crazy...but I already am getting rid of the Gibson! After playing it A LOT over the last 11 days, I realized that I just cannot stand the body shape. Everytime I reach for the mouse to either reset the backing track, or click on the next video, the guitar wants to fall off my lap body side first. The headstock actually swung up and clocked me in the head once! I had to catch the guitar so it didn't fall to the floor. I really like the sound...I really like the feel...but just can't come to terms with the body. I think it would be great to play standing up...but I always play sitting down. Believe me...nobody wants to hear me up on a stage! 
The GOOD news is...I have an even swap setup with a guy who has an '07 Ibanez Prestige RG2550E!
Posted by: Fran Jul 24 2010, 04:57 PM
I understand what you mean, when I've tried some Gibson LP Standards at my local shop I always feel as if they are going to fall, maybe it's because I'm used to the strat & in¡banez which are so well balanced, they just sit right there in your lap and don't ever move.
Then again I only tried LPs for a few minutes, so i don't really know if they would actually fall when playing sitting down, but your story certainly made me remember my short time playing them. They are beautiful guitars nonetheless and I know I'll get one some day, but their thick neck, uncomfortable high fret access (compared to strats/ibanez and SGs) and weight makes me wonder if it will ever be the right axe for me
I'm sure you'll love that 2550 man
Posted by: Azzaboi Jul 24 2010, 06:39 PM
Most Les Pauls are really light. Every Gibson USA Les Paul between 1982 - 2007 is weight-relieved, 2007+ is chambered. This took me some time to get use to for originally playing a much heavier guitar. It's better playing standing up (well balanced, but light enough to hold sideways 'or even over your head' and rip out solos, lol), but you do get use to it sitting down (feel light body, the neck can flip around easily), just be be really careful when you start playing it at first, I too nearly swung the neck around, but now I feel it's fine. I don't know... you get use to the light feel after a while - I never do that anymore.
Mine is a Double Cut Standard 98 with 24 frets, so a little more neck heavily but I love it, it's neck access and playing is a dream compared to others I've tried, super easy to access even to the highest 24th frets.
The only issue I've ever had with it, is it has the classic '57/'59s pickups in, it sounds too sweet and smooth! Great for blues and rocks, but the pickups can't really attack metal and needs something 'hotter', so getting new pickups for it - fingers crossed.
Tone: Perfect for rock/blues with no hum (just a bit vintage blues/rock rather than screaming metal)
Weight: Light (good well balance for standing up, takes time to get use to sitting, all except for the SG which feel heavier and more balanced at sitting)
Body: Excellent (for the 24th fret Double Cut, a bit more neck weight, but way more access, the best body shape I've ever used - standard cut has less access high frets but a nice neck still)
I would suggest going with a different guitar for more metal screaming attack depending on how you like to play, but if you play smooth rock/blues I would say nothing can beat the gibson. If I can get both worlds with new pickups, it would be by far the best guitar I've played.
Sorry to hear it didn't work out for ya, let me know how the '07 Ibanez Prestige RG2550E is, looks like a sweet axe as well. You should be able to play everything from Classical to extreme Death metal on her!
Posted by: Praetorian Jul 24 2010, 08:30 PM
I really am disappointed that it didn't work. I really do like Les Pauls, they just aren't suited for me. I lloved the man Les Paul! If you haven't seen "Chasing Sound" rent it right away and watch it! He had the smoothest tone you have ever heard!
Posted by: ZakkWylde Jul 24 2010, 09:02 PM
I can't believe you are getting rid of a guitar that looks great, plays great ,feels great and over all sounds great just because of the body shape that you have not been getting used to yet? Seriously?
KEEP THE LES PAUL
Posted by: Praetorian Jul 24 2010, 11:01 PM
KEEP THE LES PAUL
Not a chance. I have really come to dislike it. When I first tried it, I felt the same thing...but figured I would get used to it. It just isn't happening. Honestly, if I kept it, it would sit in the case and I would play something else.
Posted by: jstcrsn Jul 24 2010, 11:16 PM
The GOOD news is...I have an even swap setup with a guy who has an '07 Ibanez Prestige RG2550E!
i'm with you , get rid of the thang
its heavy you ,will probably change pick ups in the middle of a song because the switch is located in the worst place
22 frets- need i say more
Posted by: Todd Simpson Jul 24 2010, 11:19 PM
Well, to each his own I'm sure there are tons of folks who will be thrilled to get their hands on it. It's really a great looking axe, but it sounds like it's time for it to find a new home. I hope you find something that fits in better for you. I've got a les paul shaped minarik and it is a bit wonky to sit with so I hear ya. Either way, great looking Axe.
Todd
Posted by: jstcrsn Jul 24 2010, 11:27 PM
hey : maybe you could swirl paint it for us folks at GMC
Posted by: Azzaboi Jul 24 2010, 11:43 PM
Double cut version has the pickup switch @ bottom. Maybe I was just lucky getting the limited Double Cut '98 24 fret version. I've also played the originals, still like them, but I would agree the access to the higher frets and pickup switch isn't as easy.
Posted by: ZakkWylde Jul 25 2010, 01:55 AM
its heavy you ,will probably change pick ups in the middle of a song because the switch is located in the worst place
22 frets- need i say more
The guitar is heavy - but thanks to that it doesn't sound like a piece of Plywood with strings like all those Superstrats.
You won't hit the switch by accident unless you pick over the fretboard and have a gigantic arm movement! The switch sits perfectly for playing standing up, not in the way but easy and fast to reach. I prefer that position over having to reach between your knobs to swithc the pickup (while turning you volume or tone down by accident -.-)
How often does anyone REALLY need 24 frets?
Posted by: Praetorian Jul 25 2010, 03:44 AM
You won't hit the switch by accident unless you pick over the fretboard and have a gigantic arm movement! The switch sits perfectly for playing standing up, not in the way but easy and fast to reach. I prefer that position over having to reach between your knobs to swithc the pickup (while turning you volume or tone down by accident -.-)
How often does anyone REALLY need 24 frets?
All good points. I never hit the pickup switch by accident, and I actually DID like the 10.5 pound feel to it! But to compare strats to plywood? You're way off on that one.
Posted by: ZakkWylde Jul 25 2010, 12:25 PM
Strats sound good but I have never heard a Strat that could remotely compete being played next to a good Les Paul.
You already have some Strats and superstrats and when you sell the LP now you are going to miss it's tone or feel sooner or later.
My favourite story regarding this (I have told it two or three times already in this forum^^):
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I was at my musicstore in the room where all the super expensive boutique amps are stored and there was this other guy testing guitars. He played an ESP Horizon (great sounding Superstrat) and he was ripping leads and heavy riffs through this Bogner or Diezel amp. The salesman walks into the room and the guy with the ESP says: This is the best sounding metal guitar ever! Listen to this heavy sound *plays a heavy riff*.
The salesman smiled: Really? Then try this *Metal* axe! And he grabs a Les Paul with vintage specs of the wall.
The ESP dude laughs out loud: This? THIS! That's a grandpas blues guitar, it doesn't even have highgain pickups...
The salesman unplugs the ESP, plugs in the Les Paul and BOOM
Louder, Tighter, Heavier than the ESP! The tone was unbelievably better than with the ESP. The diffrence was overwhelming.
The ESP dude had his jaw on the floor: How can this sound so heavy and tight? Those are vintage low output pickups! Even the harmonics are stronger compared to the Horizon!
Wood and build quality makes the diffrence said the salesman. Imagine what a beast this Les Paul would be if it had the same pickups the Esp already has...
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Posted by: Praetorian Jul 25 2010, 12:35 PM
And I've also never heard a Les Paul that could compete with a Strat for clean tones. Two different animals for two different things. It doesn't work for me...it does for you. Don't take it personally!
Posted by: sted Jul 25 2010, 05:53 PM
You're right of course, thats why you need both!
Ive tried to wean myself off Les Pauls but I just cant, heavy, uncomfortable, totally crap top fret access, its all true but that sound, man, there is nothing in the world that can match that sound for rock music.
You sound like you've made your mind up and thatts fair enough, I wouldnt force my opinions on anyone but beware, there is no way you will get that thump from the Ibanez, it will be a way more toppy sound with not as much sustain which is great for shredding and, well, not much else really!
Just promise me you wont be getting rid of the strat anytime soon....or I'll have to send the vintage boys round!
Posted by: Azzaboi Jul 25 2010, 06:25 PM
My Les Paul Standard DC is not that heavy, quite light compared to a 50th Fender Strat I use to have, it's very comfortable, and has the best fret access all over a slim sexy neck as like most double cuts. I wouldn't give it up, perfer it way over the fender, but that's my baby...
You have to find something for your own style and something your'll truthly love to be hook on playing it daily!
Posted by: Marcus Siepen Sep 24 2010, 09:45 AM
Beautiful guitar, I have the same model and I love it, great choice :-)
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