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Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 10 2009, 02:36 PM

Here you can put your takes for the Crossfire collab and get my text comments, after you put the takes

Here's the http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=29554

Posted by: axes Aug 10 2009, 06:09 PM

Hey Ivan, hey guys

I've finished my take on this collab, here are the files (uploaded in wav because my mp3 encoder is not alright)

I hope you like it

Posted by: sted Aug 10 2009, 07:54 PM

first attempt! I almost know what you're going to say Ivan but I couldnt help myself, the tempo defeated me and I reverted to type!

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Posted by: superize Aug 11 2009, 02:58 PM

Here is my take.....

Not really good at composing blues solos

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 11 2009, 08:14 PM

axes:

Rhythm: Good rhythmical phrases that usually come in pairs or quads here, you seem to play in that kind of a structure here, and relly more on a rhythmic aspect of the solo. Everything is fitted nicely, and almost all the notes came out pretty clear which is excellent cause lots of them are played in 16th triplets. I think the overall impression is good in terms of speed, but a bit more better structure could be used, one that would accent the dynamics of the solo better and make a better build up. For example I would like to see some slower paced licks in the first part and later possibly developing more complicated and faster passages. So focus on rhythm dynamics is something that requires more attention. Structure and execution alone are great.
Phrasing: Not bad at all, there are some cool phrases within, and most of them are connected the same way as rhythm ones. duo or quad groups of phrases with changed last phrase, and often turned into a fast passage/run. This is all very good, but I believe those end phrases could benefit from better note lands. In the second phrase in the end for example there is ending on the minor third (G), which is kinda acquard note to land on I have an impression the lick was started and stoped somewhere before the end. SO main focus for you should be on more longer notes, and really having a time to stop and thing about the licks and runs that you want to do, so they really form a nice story when played together. Story that will have introduction, main part, and conclusion. All the elements are there but matched in a more raw way that woudl require a bit more careful note choice.
technique/effects: Great technqiue and well executed solo, almost all the notes are there, and they are all very clean even the fast runs are nice and pleasant to listen. I found the solo quite effective in terms of technique just because of shear cleanness of playing.
Sound: Good sound, lots of mids so it cuts trough very sharply, it's a bit louder than backing but I will fix that. Just right amount of overdrive and everything, and the thing I would like to hear that is more overtones in sound, it is narrowly mid-focused. Although there is small amount of air in the sound, adding a very light reverb would sound cool.




sted:

Rhythm: Good rhythmical phrase that repeats throughout the solo, I like it and the pauses that you did are also very important. I think in overall, although the phrases are repeating several times, you managed to make it interesting because you inserted some subtle details here and there, and used different passages and different kinds of pauses in between them so it remains interesting. One thing that needs more work is timing. Gotta be perfectly in beat with the backing.
Phrasing: Good use of pentatonics, I like the melodies and I specially like the last couple of phrases in the end. You really started something there that sounds excellent, and in the end executed a small sequence that resembles on the stuff you played in the first part so it was "kinda" uneffective way to finish, but still very good. I just had an impression that after that great last part, you will finish in the same style - developing those few phrases. They were really inspiring. All in all good phrasing, and somewhat repetitive first part with an excellent shining second part moment.
Techniques: Solid playing, I like it. What could better are vibratos that are too narrow and fast/uncontrolled. They should be quite oposite, wide and controlled. I probably said this numerious times, perhaps I already spotted this, but still it's something to focus on, because I do believe you play great and I think you will benefit a lot from more vibrato exercises.
Sound: Very good sound, tasty and smooth. The reverb could be backed off a bit, but I like the dark texture of it. Sounds cool, possibly the tail should be shortened out just a little. Everything else is solid.

Posted by: axes Aug 11 2009, 08:33 PM

Thank you, Ivan! I absolutely agree with you, and I admit that I didn't work too much on the melody, but took a more rythmical and technical approach. I think I'll record another take tomorrow and see what I can do to improve the solo

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 11 2009, 10:16 PM

@axes
That's great man, thanks a lot! Can't wait to hear new version



superize:

Rhythm: Your rhythm choice is very good, couple of long notes, and followed by faster legato passage, then in the second part you kinda slowed down, and did more longer notes in general. I would like to see the other way around to be really effective. Since you have a good sense for rhythm, now it is time to consider analyzing the concepts of rhythm dynamics, and how notes should create an effective build up until the end. Nevertheless, you have perfect timing in this solo.
Phrasing: Your solo impressed me because of the fact you are not into blues. However, I can see that you really tried to play this properly, and respect you very much because of that, great attitude. You started with mixolydian feel, and used legato lick with major third to back it up, after that couple of bends, and then minor third legato lick. Simple and raw? Yes, but in essence proper way to do it. In the second part good use of minor box 1 on the 12th fret, and I only wish you played it a bit more faster or used some cool bends. This would give a more effective ending for the solo. In general, your soloing is good, phrasing techniques are well thought off, and although you have to learn a bit more about blues, you really managed to pull out some melodies that are structured in a good way. This is your way and I respect that. If you want my advise, I suggest learning those pentatonic boxes well in all positions, for example in this case all 5 boxes of E minor pentatonic scale would really give you plenty of familiar space to work in. They will help in metal very much, and complement powerchords in a very effective way. Learning the pentatonic scale is something that is good not only because of the soloing, but riffing as well, so you will benefit from it.
Technique: Although you haven't used any advanced techniques on this one, you managed to use those that will be most effective and they are. Execution is flawless and this is always what I would like to hear more than fast licks but played sloppy. You are a good player, just keep at it.
Sound: Nice smooth tone, sounds good to me. Delay is a bit louder than needed to me, so I think backing off a volume just a tiny bit would make a big difference in the mix. Your solo would push just a bit more forward comparing to other instruments.

Posted by: sted Aug 12 2009, 03:01 PM

Thanks for the comment Ivan, again the tempo was such that i fell into some old bad habits, I really wanted to mix this up and not just rely on blues scale but it was quite difficult to try and do this with the faster tempo pulling me all over the place. Timing was off in places as you said, i just couldnt get it right that night (We all have bad days i suppose!).
I really want to get into more 3 octave scales and introduce a bit more modal variation into my playing and also modulating with the chord changes a bit more.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 12 2009, 03:33 PM

Thanks for this great answer man! I think your take was very interesting and quite good actually, I only feel that there are some minor timing issues that you can work on. Perhaps making another take with a bit better timing if you have the time? I will be glad to comment on that if you have the will to investigate 3 octave scales and modal variations. I'm very curious how that will turn up, and I think you can make pretty good track. There's plenty of time left on this collab, so take your time.

Posted by: leedbreak Aug 15 2009, 08:49 PM

Mine, I will want to do another take after comments I am sure. IF me busy life allows me time.


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Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 16 2009, 03:48 PM

@leedbreak

Rhythm: Good rhythmic patterns that repeat over the whole take and have some form of a structure. As always, building a nice dynamics through your rhythm playing is just as important as anything else, so be aware of that. The notes that you play kinda sound like jumping from note to note using the accentuated notes on the quarters of the bar. This created an impression that you are slowing down the track with your solo, which is a good strategy to use sometimes, but not always, like in the second part. There were some timing issues as well that needs to be fixed.
Phrasing: Not too rich but good enough. Using the minor pentatonic box most of the time with occasional outside notes. All in all I think the structure could be a bit better. Lots of phrases are repeated in the same melodic (and rhythmical) way, so I think developing the phrases so that at least the landing notes are different could be a good example what should be done in the next take.
Technique: Good technique, but you need to tighten up the playing a bit. I get the impression that this whole take was done in-speed, or when not warmed up so bends and vibratos, and the playing in general were little clumsy. I believe you can do a lot better.
Sound: Good sound but too much space added. Try softening up that reverb a bit, increase the time, lower down the volume and make it a bit more brighter. No big modifications, just in small increments.

Posted by: Toroso Aug 17 2009, 11:50 PM

Still can't capture what's in my head. At least my fingers can't reproduce it very well.

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Posted by: leedbreak Aug 18 2009, 04:45 AM

Thanks Ivan. I will do another take and hope to get it up by the deadline. Life is very busy and I end up having to rush through these somtimes, as you stated. I wrote and recorded it all in an hour. I will put a tad more time and try to use your comments to make a better one.

Great fun these are none the less.

Thanks again

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 18 2009, 06:14 PM

Toroso:

Rhythm: Good timing in the take, and good rhythmic structure as well. I can understand the way you were going with this take, and in overall the rhythmical build up is a very solid one, although one thing I would like to hear is more tighter execution and timing in general in this take. I like the way you progressed with faster passages in the second part, and all in all I think practicing those passages with the metronome would really make them even more effective.
Phrasing: Good phrasing, and a very nice development. Everything is very nicely fitted in. Again I note the importance of properly executed notes in this take to create a more defined solo. I believe your phrasing is very nice, and all the ideas are connected to each other, so your main focus should be perhaps on smoothing out those passages so they blend seamlessly into one another, possibly by incorporating some slides here and there, and keeping some of the notes sustaining. In the end I would like to hear the bended root on the treble strings instead of going sharply to the low E string root, so you finish more effectively.
Technique: You technique progress is audible, and I can see that in second part you are now inserting some a bit faster passages that do sound very cool and effective. I think overall quality of your playing could use some refinement, for example bends need to be spot on the pitch, vibratos need to be more stronger and controlled, and I would like to hear some slides as well. Other than that, I think your technique and picking style is probably something that is pretty good, but here you can improve as well, but taking a metronome and practicing some faster passage over and over. This will increase your overall playing ability, not just that particular passage.
Sound: Your tone is very good and it cuts well. There is some amount if hiss in the signal and a small buzzing presence blended in the overdrive, but you have very nice and smooth mids in the sound, so I think the sound is audible nicely in the mix. Well done

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 18 2009, 07:28 PM

Thanks a lot for the feedback man, I do believe that you can do it much better if you find some time, but I completely understand what it means lacking time, it can definitely affect on a person, when it has busy time schedule.
So I say, try not to worry about it, and if you can manage to take another shot at this, I will be happy to comment, compare and analyze.

cheers bro,
Ivan

Posted by: Toroso Aug 18 2009, 07:33 PM

Thanks Ivan! All you say is very true. I am trying loosen up some. When I am just banging on the guitar, I do employ a lot of the techniques you ask for. But it is often a little sloppy. When I go to record I get tight and a lot of my creativity is suppressed, but I'm working on it.

The hiss comes from Amplitube. This is the first time I recorded with it. A lot of their patches are very noisy and the noise gate, I do not like the way it works. Line 6 has a much better one IMHO. Of course that is not their fault as I have the option of twisting some knobs.

Aw shucks, I thought you might like that, I pulled it right out of Crossfire. Oh well, all's well.

Posted by: edguy Aug 18 2009, 09:20 PM

Hey Ivan,

here is my take for the collab. It's really bad but i had a bad day too.
I looking forward to your comments but i think i didn't have enough time to do another take. But who knows

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Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 18 2009, 10:48 PM

Suppressing is overcomed with time spent on recording various things. It's basically always harder when recording, so it's not something unusual. Perhaps copying the backing and recording 5 takes at once can give you time to loosen up and produce better results? It sure works for me, my playing flow is definitely ruined when I have to press stop&record all the time.

If you just started using Amplitube, I think you got a pretty decent sound actually. Just give yourself some time and I'm sure you will get familiar witht he software inside and out




AAh so this is why it is played? Well it is not a bad moment there, but perhaps another way of playing it could be used? Try to match the last phrase so it blends nicely with that low E, if you know what I mean.

edguy:

Rhtyhm: Very nice rhythmical structure. I like the way you have 2 big phrases in the first part, and some nice variations in the middle. In the last part you applied faster passages which all together turned out pretty cool and effective. This is definitely a proper way to build a rhythm dynamics within a solo. THe things that I can recommend for you to work on is timing and proper execution. All the notes should be ideally perfectly in tempo, no notes should be slow or fast, everything should be on spot. This is somewhat difficult while improvising, when you have an idea but cannot quite perform that well. Nevertheless, I think you did great, and only those couple of last fast passages could use some time with the metronome.
Phrasing: First two phrases are very good, very nice call & response structure. After that, one middle mainstream bluesy phrase, and after that some cool legato passages. As I said with rhythm, proper execution the key here, and also watch out so that you stay within a key. There are some notes that you played by mistake here and there. Not a big deal, but it would definitely meana lot when all of them would be perfect. This is not so hard to achieve, just some time spent practicing this kind of a pattern will secure that.
Technique: Good technique all around. I think bends could be a bit stronger, and vibrato should be applied on more places within the solo. Other than that, it's pretty solid.
Sound: Good sound, just the right amount of overdriven bluesy tone. Very good. I think a bit more overdrive with smooth midrange could do wonders here.

Posted by: edguy Aug 19 2009, 07:48 AM

HEy Ivan,

thanks for your detailed comment. I'm really happy how much time and passion you place with your work here. Your such a cool guy. The Deadline is the 25 august right? Well i try to heed your advices and try to record another take in time.

I think I really improve by participating in this collab. Thanks again for that!!


greetz


Roman

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 19 2009, 03:23 PM

Nice thing to say man, appreciate it I like when I get feedbacks for the comments and I also very much like to hear another take after the comment, so if you find the time, it would be great. Thanks again!: )

Posted by: Staffy Aug 20 2009, 10:46 PM

Hi Ivan!
Finally I got this together. First i've tried to be a little bit innovative on this one, but when I got to the bottom line - it sounded better trying not to be..... So I guess I'm stuck with that ole same blues!

Recording notes:
Fender Mexican with Texas special
TC Powercore Tubifex, amp simulator
Little reverb added + noise gate.

//Staffay

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 23 2009, 04:44 PM

Staffy:

Rhythm: Great rhythmic figures, very nicely blended with the backing, but also using syncopated sequences as well (specially on some bends), which is really nice to hear. There are some timing issues here and there, some notes not being on the beat. I understand the loose feel you were tending to achieve and although it did turn out excellent, there are some notes here and there that could been a bit more precisely executed, specially in the second part.
Phrasing: Good melodic structure, using well blended licks, that do go along with each other. Although the structure is there, I think you would benefit from using a more melodic approach, where not so much stock blues licks would be used, but a nice well-balanced melody is going through a whole take. Possibly this could be achieved with some main theme that could be repeated in the whole solo, so it sounds all connected together. Regardless of that, I think all the licks really turned out great, and they sound very nice in relation to the backing. Another proof of rellying on familiar boxes and licks is in the last part where you used box 1 of the G minor pentatonic scale (pickup change part) over the G - A turnaround sequence, and then came back to double stop chromatic lick on the E minor pentatonic. This kinda sounded strange because of the E# note that sounded out of key.
Technique: Loose but very cool sounding. I dig this kind of style and I like when it is played like this. Doesn't sound sloppy to me, more like loosy. There are some sloppy notes here and there, but execution and your ability of playing is in general very very good.
Sound: Good fat sound with pronounced mids, nice subtle dark sounding verb, good in your face tone in general. Your playing is clean, and everything goes out pretty good. On thing I must note is the fact that the preset had some additional hissing noise, probably due to overdrive preset.

Posted by: edguy Aug 23 2009, 08:33 PM

HEy Ivan,

here is my new take where i tried to focuse on your advices. I think i can't do it better at the moment. Have to work a lot more on my legto playing in the near future.

Hope you like it anyway.

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Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 24 2009, 01:51 PM

edguy:

This take already sounds much much better, I really liked it! Thanks for taking the time to do another take.
In comparison to the first one, this one has lots of cool elements that are much better blended together to create a nice balanced story that is pleasing for listening and keeps attention for the listener.
Since the critique is what usually makes us realize some imperfections, there are few suggestions I can make for you for this new take for fine tuning:

In the first part you had 3 cool pairs of call & response phrases. What I noticed is that all the response phrases were finished on notes that leave the impression of unfinished musical sentence. If you listen carefully I think you will understand what I mean. Possibly the last note on every response phrase could be a bit different, possibly ending on a root or something. This would give a good meaning to the phrases, and make impression that they are complete.
In the second part of the solo, there are some very cool legato sequences. 1st and 3rd ones are Em arpeggio triads, while the second one is a bit acquard A# major triad but with flated 5th. It sounds a bit dissonant in this solo so I suggest just using some note from Em pentatonic scale instead of A#. A# is in fact the note from E blues scale, but when used in this triad it can sound strange, specially if you put it between two Em triad shapes that have the same pattern and where the E note is actually parallel to the A# note so to the listener A# becomes the root.
All in all I think your take was great, major improvement from the previous one. I would like to hear some more vibrato on some notes, specially on those endings of the phrases in the first part, but it is very good as it is. It think you well understood what can be done to make your take better, and this proves that you are thinking about the way you play. Well done!


Again I say, there are always room for improvements. If you feel that you can make even better take and you want to do it, feel free to do it, there is no harm in doing it and fine tuning your solo to become even more better. I appreciate the fact that I can follow your progress through this collaboration so it will mean a lot in future ones as well.

Posted by: edguy Aug 25 2009, 12:15 PM

Hey Ivan,

thanks again for your detailed comment. I'm glad that you like this take more.

That's what i was thinking too. But i had no idea how i should end the phrases a different way so it ended up like it is now
In the future i will look more about ending a phrase better. Thank you for the great tip.



Now the funny part begins I understand completly what you said here ! The funny thing is while recording and listen to this legato part i thougt this sounds a little bit strange too. But i didn't had the courage to trust my ears and change the notes because i was thinking: Hey i am using the E Blues Pentatonic here so it must be right. But this shows me that my ears are not that bad and in the furture i will try to trust my feelings a little bit more.

The only thing i didn't understand is what a triad means?

The deadline is today so I'm not able to record a new take (sometimes is't really exhausting to record)
Hope you can use this take in the collab even with this small mistakes.

cheers

Roman

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 25 2009, 02:53 PM

Very good man, thanks for the feedback!
I will definitely use this take in the collab, don't worry! It's a very interesting take, and with couple of more adjustments like those mentioned, you will sound like a professional player.
I'm very glad you understood the triad part of my comment. Next time definitely trust your ears, ears first - then theory. Theory should be used as a tool, something that is there to assist you when you cannot use the ear.

Triad is the simplest form of chord, it consist of three notes: root, third and fifth.


cheers!
Ivan

Posted by: kaznie_NL Aug 25 2009, 07:04 PM

there ya go sorry to bump in

Posted by: Staffy Aug 25 2009, 09:58 PM

Hi again Ivan! Thanx for Your very constructive critics, I must say that I really enjoy to be a part of Your collabs!
They made me discover details that I normally haven't discovered. But I'm not sure of which E# note you mean, that one before the double stop???? The double stop itself lands on H and G, which makes the 7'th & the 9'th of the A chord... In my head, it doesn't sounds SO strange, hmmm, maybe a little, I guess my brain is a little bit jazz-damaged, since a played a lot of modern jazz back in the old days.

I also agree with you that some notes could be spoken out more clearly and the timing could be more accurate, Im still struggling with those heavy strings, but I wont give it up (yet).

Another interesting thing to mention is the difference between a solo and a improvisation. Back in my days (Ooowwlll, I sound old now, I know), all guitar solos was just pure improvisations, but I have noticed that nowadays a lot of players actually plays "written" solos and performs them exactly the same live as on the record. Even the great SRV did, with some small modifications here and there. Anyway, this fact has made me realize that I have to be more disciplined in my playing - which i never had been.... So therefore I tried to duplicate this improvisation and (hopefully) get rid of most of the errors. I also made a change in the sound in order to get it less "compressed" and hissy.

Thanx again Ivan for a great collab !!!!

//Staffay

Ps. There no need to comment it again, Ivan.... Lets move on to the next one! Ds.

Posted by: Dexxter Aug 25 2009, 11:01 PM

Here's my take Ivan

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Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 26 2009, 09:39 PM

Kaznie:

Rhythm: Very good rhythmic structure that repeats in the first part. In the second part again some cool variations. Towards the end you had some slightly unusual 16th note quad groups here and there in between slower notes. This leaves the impression you are practicing mostly 16th notes with the pentatonic scale, so I suggest tried to insert triplets in your regular daily routines. Regardless of that, it all came out very solid, not a note missed, all very well defined until the end. Great rhythm work.
Phrasing: Very nice melodies, specially in the beginning. Sounds really cool with the panned overdubbed octave licks as well. Until the very end, you have great melodic build up, and I can say it is one quality solo. I would prefer a bit more better ending, possibly just holding the last note a bit and vibrating it would mean a lot.
Technique: Good use of blues techniques, nice raking effects throughout, and great bends, very tasty and musical. All in all you did really well on this collab in terms of execution and really progressed a lot from previous collabs. I really dig this solo, and hope to hear even more progress from you. The thing you should perhaps spend some time with the metronome in order to balance out your playing is the vibrato and triplet feels.
Sound: Decent clean sound, but I think it is a bit thin. Compressing a bit, and adding some light overdrive would definitely make it more alive. All in all it is good.


Staffy:

Your new take was excellent, you really managed to play everything great, and I really liked the middle part with the repeated sequence. The last part still sounds a bit acquard to me in some way, specially the last bend, I get the impression that some dissonant note was played, and bended, perhaps it is not the case tho.. I think perhaps there is some work that could be done when the chords are changing, so you can better connect your soloing in those moments. You seem to handle I IV V pretty good, but I can see some difficulties when progression goes out of there.
Anyway, thanks a lot for sending the new version, this one is really cool, and you play blues great my friend.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 26 2009, 11:40 PM

Dexxter:

Rhythm: Great rhythmical figures, really cool use of the palm muting technique to accent some notes, and good build up until the end of the solo. Everything was very nicely balanced and although I expected an ending with a bit more notes and some slightly faster passages, I think this sounds pretty good as it is. Great job in having the whole take very rhythmically defined, no notes are off timing wise.
Phrasing: Good phrases, and good connection between them. Some phrases in the take are leaving an impression of not finished story at some points, probably due to some landing notes that are used, but all in all I think again everything is properly matched, no dissonant notes, and played really nicely. There are few shot bluesy licks, but you have the style of playing that is more heavy oriented. This means you used not so standard blues licks, but this is not something that is bad, since you managed to play all the parts very nicely and really blended all the phrases with the backing track.
Technique: More heavy oriented technique, precise and aggressive sounding. Very cool, and good control over the tone, there were almost none of the additional string noise in your playing so that makes it very nicely defined and effective. Your muting is very good. Palm muting especially, and you used PM as a good effect to accent many notes in this solo. The thing that I think you lacked to play in this solo are vibratos, and bending vibratos. These would really give a whole new dimension to your take, so possibly concentrate on making those notes sing when you apply a nice string wide vibrato to them. With your style of playing this will sound great.
Sound: Good sound, smooth and balanced bottom end and mids, with a bit pronounced hi midrange and presence. There is some degree of buzzing in the overdrive preset, but it is very small and not so noticeable in the mix. The amount of space was just enough, possibly a bit less would be even better to make your dry signal more pronounced and in front.

Posted by: Dexxter Aug 27 2009, 04:55 PM

Thanks a lot for the great comment Ivan! I learned some by listening to my take several times while reading it

Posted by: kaznie_NL Aug 27 2009, 07:51 PM

That's very nice to hear thanks man! ATM I'm kinda seeking my way in the world of EQing, so the sound advice is very cool!!

Thanks Ivan! I loved the BT!

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 27 2009, 11:37 PM

Thank you man for participating. Hope to see you on the next one as well!


Thanks a lot Kaz. See you on the next one probably!