As I have been trying to write original material for over a year and not really got very far I need to try a different approach. I have a lot of stuff now in the form of tabs and sound files as "ideas". Some of them are really strange effects or noises that I have created and some of them are short riffs or licks and some of them are even short song sections but no further than that. So I can't say it's been a total failure because I have created so many ideas that could eventually be used as songs.
But I know that I can't carry on like this because otherwise I will never create anything. Pretty much every time I pick up the guitar I try and write something. So I think I need to stop trying to write and just learn as much new material as possible and don't even try to write anything for a while (6 months - years maybe). While doing this I can learn lots of new songs and improve on technique and learn some more theory so that hopefully when I come back to write again later on down the line my inspiration will be refuelled and perhaps I can go back to those ideas add to them and eventually create something.
Good idea, bad idea or waste of time? I'd like your opinions please
i am in the same problem as you right now. i have lots of idea and can't develop these. but i am not sure that to stop writing riffs is a good idea. composing is a skill, like anything else (i think so) and it needs training. i would rather suggest developping some of those riffs into part of songs, and arrange some part of songs into full songs. you can base off of a real song to help yourself.
and i also think that ear training would be good to help make a connection between your instrument and your head. but i dn't know how to train it (if anyone could help me with that id'be grateful!)
as i said earlier, i am facing the same problem as you do, so i am not sure of the answer either.
hope it helps
I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem. Because I feel like I'm the only person in the world who just can't get to grips with composing and songwriting etc. It's like everyone else can write songs whenever they want for me it's taking me years to build the skills I'm and I'm still not there. I'm beginning to wonder whether it really is as simple as "practice"
I have a map on the computer which is filled completely with parts of licks, chord progressions and things that could be parts of songs. IMO, every guitar player has that same thing (not necessarily on the computer). Songwriting is a process that never ends and you can never have enough experience with it.
If you feel you've got enough of it for a while, it could be a good idea to concentrate on learning songs you like, technical problems you have, and theory, because experience like that is never lost. But I would advise you to keep writing things down when you've got the inspiration so you can use it later on.
Are you familiar with theory? Most players have problems developing their licks & riffs, because they do not know the theory behind it (what key are you in, what chords are you using, what scales). This enables you to quickly overcome some problems, connect the pieces together more effectively and make a better workflow.
Also I wanna quote Harlan Howard here:
A lot of songs you write are just for exercise -- just pencil sharpeners.
So just keep rocking, it will be alright. Learn the chords, and learn the write music by trial and error.
I wonder if the real big thing that's missing for you is experiencing in structure? If the answer to any of these questions is "Yes" or "Sort of" then that is almost certainly the issue:
- everything sounds like an intro
- my songs don't change, they just keep going
- i don't really know where to go after this part I wrote which is (1, 4, 8) bars.
What Ivan says is correct, knowing what else you can accomplish in the same key will help but even beyond that, knowing that you need to cause and resolve tension, knowing that you can change key at ANY time (as long as it sounds good to you) is where you need a little push.
Some common solutions you can try with your existing song parts:
- repeat the same basic song part starting at a new root note of:
...1 string or five frets up in pitch (perfect fourth)
...3 frets up in pitch (minor third)
...2 frets up in pitch (major second)
...3 frets DOWN in pitch (inverted minor third)
- pick new chords from the same key!
- drastically pick some other new progression and find out if it sounds good to you.
Yeah, what you're missing is structure and storytelling. Here's a great example (tho by far NOT the only way to do this) that may help you remember some song "parts", how to arrive at them, when to use them etc:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-guitar/the-80s-rock-style-guitar-arrangements/
I can't view that lesson at the moment I'm hoping to sign up again shortly when I'm sure I have enough. I remember reading ages ago the best way to start is to go and create a simple easy rock song or something. And I avoided this because the style I want to make isn't easy rock song type stuff but more complex things so I figured there is no point. And also I thought that'd be easy and I wouldn't learn much.
Well for the first time last night I decided to try it as if to prove to myself it's easy and I almost have a finished song (well rhythm guitar and lead guitar still need to create drums and bass yet). It was fun I must admit but I'm not sure I really learned anything.
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