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JD_ View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 03:31 AM
Aug 3 2011, 03:31 AM	Learning Roadie Posts: 887 Joined: 24-June 11 From: AUS	Hello all, I recieved a new guitar today. A custom built Warmoth Strat....upon unpacking it i noticed a crack/stress fracture in the body...photo's below... What I want to know is, what sort of complications will arise from this over time? I assume the crack will only grow and get worse. I have contacted the supplier and I am currently awaiting their response..... Any advice on this would be great...Thanks I should add...it's not just the paint that is cracked, the crack seems to be about .02 - .03 cm deep Cheers You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Attached image(s) -------------------- ESP E2 VIPER CAMO, ENGL INFERNO 100w, TWO NOTES CAPTOR X

JD_ View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 04:00 AM
Aug 3 2011, 04:00 AM	Learning Roadie Posts: 887 Joined: 24-June 11 From: AUS	It doesn't affect the playability or sound in anyway.... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- ESP E2 VIPER CAMO, ENGL INFERNO 100w, TWO NOTES CAPTOR X

Gabriel Leopardi View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 05:34 AM
Aug 3 2011, 05:34 AM	Instructor Posts: 36.043 Joined: 3-March 07 From: Argentina	That's so bad! It doesn't affect to the sound now but with some time that crack will grow... it could take years but finally it will grow so I think that you must contact the seller and ask for another one. At the same time.. if you ever decide to sell it the price will be lowered because of it so once again... ask for another one! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons Do you need a Guitar Plan? Join Gab's Army Check my band:Cirse Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel

JD_ View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 05:37 AM
Aug 3 2011, 05:37 AM	Learning Roadie Posts: 887 Joined: 24-June 11 From: AUS	QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 3 2011, 04:34 AM) That's so bad! It doesn't affect to the sound now but with some time that crack will grow... it could take years but finally it will grow so I think that you must contact the seller and ask for another one. At the same time.. if you ever decide to sell it the price will be lowered because of it so once again... ask for another one! Thanks alot...On it now Cheers You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- ESP E2 VIPER CAMO, ENGL INFERNO 100w, TWO NOTES CAPTOR X

Gary View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 05:54 AM
Aug 3 2011, 05:54 AM	GMC:er Posts: 363 Joined: 3-March 08 From: La La Land, California	I am assuming you bought it new as there are bits of protective film visible. I am not knowledgeable in how the neck is mounted to the body with the Warmoth. With a reg strat the neck is held on with four bolts though the back of body into the neck. That neck seems to be bolted through the bottom.. must be going through a dovetail in the body and a tenon in the neck? (dovetail joint). If the crack is though the paint and into the wood I would raise hell. There is stress in the area where the neck is mounted to the guitar and the crack is in a strange spot . It's possible someone either over torqed the neck mount or the mating surface(s) where the crack is have a high spot(s) that came into contact when the neck was tightened. If that were the case and the wood is involved I would venture to guess the crack will get worse over time. Sucks that you get a new guitar and have to deal with hassle... bummer! On the bright side.. I dig that neck.. looks like my Malmsteen EDIT: Just looked at the pics again. The edge of the neck cutout on the body looks rough.. not a smooth edge. Hard to tell with the shadows but it looks as though someone stuck something in between the neck and the body in an attempt to adjust or pry the the neck into position. That could definitely cause a crack. I would send her back. Cheers! Gary You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Gary: Aug 3 2011, 06:28 AM

JD_ View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 05:57 AM
Aug 3 2011, 05:57 AM	Learning Roadie Posts: 887 Joined: 24-June 11 From: AUS	QUOTE (Gary @ Aug 3 2011, 04:54 AM) I am assuming you bought it new as there are bits of protective film visible. I am not knowedable in how the neck is mounted to the body with the Warmoth. With a reg strat the neck is held on with four bolts though the back of body into the neck. That neck seems to be bolted through the bottom.. must be going through a dovetail in the body and a tenon in the neck? (dovetail joint). If the crack is though the paint and into the wood I would raise hell. There is stress in the area where the neck is mounted to the guitar and the crack is in a strange spot . It's possible someone either over torqed the neck mount or the mating surface(s) where the crack is have a high spot(s) that came into contact when the neck was tightened. If that were the case and the wood is involved I would venture to guess the crack could get worse over time. Sucks that you get a new guitar and have to deal with hassle... bummer! On the bright side.. I dig that neck.. looks like my Malmsteen. Cheers! Gary Hey mate, thanks for the reply. It is sooo depressing, the scalloped neck on it is awesome...Feels amazing, and perfect for my sliced up and scarred fingertips. It does seem like the neck was overtightened and perhaps during shipping it has come away from the body and cause a crack...it's definatly into the wood...not just the paint. A refund i shall seek You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- ESP E2 VIPER CAMO, ENGL INFERNO 100w, TWO NOTES CAPTOR X

Azzaboi View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 07:04 AM
Aug 3 2011, 07:04 AM	GMC:er Posts: 1.486 Joined: 23-March 09 From: New Zealand	I thought this was about your own body from the topic title... but this is much worst, your poor axe! Get it replaced or repaired asap. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Play Games Arcade Take a break, Play Games! Play the best free online flash games at Aaron's Game Zone like Bloons Tower Defense 4!

JD_ View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 07:10 AM
Aug 3 2011, 07:10 AM	Learning Roadie Posts: 887 Joined: 24-June 11 From: AUS	QUOTE (Azzaboi @ Aug 3 2011, 06:04 AM) I thought this was about your own body from the topic title... but this is much worst, your poor axe! Get it replaced or repaired asap. Haha...I am old, but not that old I am falling apart haha. What sort of repairs could be dont to this? A small gap has opened up between the neck and the body which has caused a small crack.... Can this actually be fixed? QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Aug 3 2011, 06:07 AM) Haha...I am old, but not that old I am falling apart haha. What sort of repairs could be dont to this? A small gap has opened up between the neck and the body which has caused a small crack.... Can this actually be fixed? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Attached image(s) -------------------- ESP E2 VIPER CAMO, ENGL INFERNO 100w, TWO NOTES CAPTOR X

JadGh View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 07:18 AM
Aug 3 2011, 07:18 AM	GMC:er Posts: 23 Joined: 18-July 11 From: Lebanon (Living in Dubai - UAE)	I guess you have learned your lesson the hard way... same thing happened to me years ago and ever since, i never buy guitars online. accessories are ok to get them online but for the axe, i wanna check my baby first, hold and try it then buy it. Good luck! Jad You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 08:36 AM
Aug 3 2011, 08:36 AM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	I got your email about but it looks like you've already gotten some good feedback. Bottom line is you need to try to get your money back if at all possible. Don't trust for a second that the scratch is only skin deep until you take the neck off and have a look. My guess is the neck was "shimmed" at the vendor and then a bench tech over tightened it. You'll have to take it entirely apart to actually see what the damage is. Has he stripped the screw? Cracked the neck joyce from the inside? etc. Best case scenario it's just the surface, but even then it's like a windshield crack. A bomb waiting to go off. This is just plain wrong and I expect more from Warmoth. I'd give them a serious piece of your mind and demand some sort of consideration for emotional distress! Those guitars are not cheap. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

JD_ View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 08:46 AM
Aug 3 2011, 08:46 AM	Learning Roadie Posts: 887 Joined: 24-June 11 From: AUS	QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Aug 3 2011, 07:36 AM) I got your email about but it looks like you've already gotten some good feedback. Bottom line is you need to try to get your money back if at all possible. Don't trust for a second that the scratch is only skin deep until you take the neck off and have a look. My guess is the neck was "shimmed" at the vendor and then a bench tech over tightened it. You'll have to take it entirely apart to actually see what the damage is. Has he stripped the screw? Cracked the neck joyce from the inside? etc. Best case scenario it's just the surface, but even then it's like a windshield crack. A bomb waiting to go off. This is just plain wrong and I expect more from Warmoth. I'd give them a serious piece of your mind and demand some sort of consideration for emotional distress! Those guitars are not cheap. Thanks alot mate, good advice. I am currently givin em hell and getting ma money back. Thanks alot You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- ESP E2 VIPER CAMO, ENGL INFERNO 100w, TWO NOTES CAPTOR X

Ivan Milenkovic View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 11:20 AM
Aug 3 2011, 11:20 AM	Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia	Yes definitely get the money back, and give em hell. The crack lowers down value of the guitar, and can potentially get bigger under pressure/use. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE - Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons - (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel - Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)

Daniel Realpe View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 03:01 PM
Aug 3 2011, 03:01 PM	Instructor Posts: 5.655 Joined: 11-October 09 From: Bogota	QUOTE (JadGh @ Aug 3 2011, 07:18 AM) I guess you have learned your lesson the hard way... same thing happened to me years ago and ever since, i never buy guitars online. accessories are ok to get them online but for the axe, i wanna check my baby first, hold and try it then buy it. Good luck! Jad I agree, a guitar has to be tested first hand to decide! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Visit my: INSTRUCTOR PROFILE "If a composer could say what he had to say in words he would not bother trying to say it in music." Gustav Mahler Subscribe to my Youtube Channel here

Gabriel Leopardi View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 03:27 PM
Aug 3 2011, 03:27 PM	Instructor Posts: 36.043 Joined: 3-March 07 From: Argentina	QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Aug 3 2011, 01:37 AM) Thanks alot...On it now Cheers no problem man! I wish you best of lucks with this! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons Do you need a Guitar Plan? Join Gab's Army Check my band:Cirse Check my soundcloud:Soundcloud Please subscribe to my:Youtube Channel

JD_ View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 03:29 PM
Aug 3 2011, 03:29 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 887 Joined: 24-June 11 From: AUS	QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 3 2011, 02:27 PM) no problem man! I wish you best of lucks with this! Cheers! There is no way it can be fixed...the problem will be there no matter what they do to try n fix it.... i'll get a refund and shop locally next time....Bummer though.. Thanks You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- ESP E2 VIPER CAMO, ENGL INFERNO 100w, TWO NOTES CAPTOR X

thefireball View Member Profile	Aug 3 2011, 09:05 PM
Aug 3 2011, 09:05 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 4.537 Joined: 9-March 10 From: United States, Arkansas	Yeah, I thought this was about your own body too. haha..but that's too bad about what happened. I got lucky with my getting my Jackson online and it not damaged. But I don't want to do that anymore. I'm sure a store can get whatever you want so long as they carry that company's products. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- YouTube - A Place For Melodic Guitarists Instagram - Behind the Music Analyzed Within - My Christian Metal Band

Adrian Figallo View Member Profile	Aug 4 2011, 01:14 AM
Aug 4 2011, 01:14 AM	Instructor Posts: 3.466 Joined: 24-October 09 From: lima peru	ohhhh, that's bad, but the guitar looks astonishing, i would get another one to be honest. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check my Instructor Profile Rockers! Got a Blog too!, www.adriantracks.com Follow me on facebook and youtube! -Facebook -Youtube

JD_ View Member Profile	Aug 4 2011, 01:25 AM
Aug 4 2011, 01:25 AM	Learning Roadie Posts: 887 Joined: 24-June 11 From: AUS	QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ Aug 4 2011, 12:14 AM) ohhhh, that's bad, but the guitar looks astonishing, i would get another one to be honest. Oh I know...so upset....the guitar is beautiful...besides the obvious. Can it be fixed you think? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- ESP E2 VIPER CAMO, ENGL INFERNO 100w, TWO NOTES CAPTOR X

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Aug 4 2011, 11:23 AM
Aug 4 2011, 11:23 AM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	I'd ask for another one just like that in return no refund, but another guitar, until you're satisfied with it You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

JD_ View Member Profile	Aug 4 2011, 11:33 AM
Aug 4 2011, 11:33 AM	Learning Roadie Posts: 887 Joined: 24-June 11 From: AUS	QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 4 2011, 10:23 AM) I'd ask for another one just like that in return no refund, but another guitar, until you're satisfied with it Yea mate that's exactly what I organised today...I got another one, exactly the same on the way... You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- ESP E2 VIPER CAMO, ENGL INFERNO 100w, TWO NOTES CAPTOR X

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