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Posted by: drw84215 Apr 16 2008, 07:57 PM

im leaving GMC. i am not happy with the website. the lessons are scattered everywhere. there is no logic. basicly a new teacher every time i log on. i feel like the lessons on the site are just to meet quota. a new lesson everyday? i dont want quanity i want GOOD quality. somthing i have not found in GMC. there are some good lessons. but for every good lesson there are 10 bad lessons. they dont explain anything. and nwo that pavel is gone im going to find a new way to learn guitar. thank you for a waste of time.

Posted by: audiopaal Apr 16 2008, 07:59 PM

Goodbye then

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Apr 16 2008, 07:59 PM

Hello drw84215,

I am very sorry to hear this!

Don't hesitate to give us some feedback on what you think we could do better - as our goal is to improve!

Good luck with your playing

Kris

Posted by: Pi38 Apr 16 2008, 08:01 PM

GuitarMasterClass has increased my skill immensely. I've learned more in the three months here then the year I spent trying to teach myself. I personally love the lessons, and I say the more instructors there are, the better. I don't know lessons you're watching when you say that they aren't quality. I think you may have lost your mind, dear sir. It's you're decision, and if you feel this way, feel free to leave. I personally disagree, however.

Posted by: DeepRoots Apr 16 2008, 08:08 PM

Consider this....there are other users, not just you. We don't all want the same genre. Different lessons bring different aspects of guitar playing to different users dependant on how and what they want to use.

New instructors all the time? A fact of life is people eventually leave GMC (such as yourself) and it is necessary for new instructors to join so that we don't end up as a community with no teachers! (by the way if a new instrctor joins every time you log in then you should probably log in more often..)

Good? define good....i could tell you something about music that you didn't know right now and you'd think it was a good piece of information, but someone else may already have known the information i just shared with you- does that lessen the value of that content/information? Good and bad is not the same to everybody...its called an opinion.

By the way- there are more subtle and mature ways to share an opinion of the value you receive as the customer, this may involve giving constructive feedback about your experience with the product in order to improve both the product and your experience using it. Not just...silence...silence...silence.."This sucks...BYE!!"


one more thing...

Bye- i hope you find the way you like to learn guitar.

Posted by: Martin la guitarra Apr 16 2008, 08:09 PM

me too, im in love in this site, couldnt live with out it. Especially Kris Hot blues lesson, omg, i adore it.

Posted by: fkalich Apr 16 2008, 08:09 PM

i consider your site incredible myself, and I have been here now over a year. maybe he is frustrated with his own progress and it is like kicking a dog who won't bite back, only he made you the dog. no offense meant to you or to dogs.

edit: typo. also speaking of dogs, I take mine around with me, and maybe for months everybody loves my dog. but once in awhile I meet somebody who does not like dogs. I just figure it is them, not me, and don't take it to heart.

Posted by: Pi38 Apr 16 2008, 08:14 PM

You said on March 25th in the Site Improvement Board that other then lots of instructors, you love GMC. What's changed in a few weeks?

Posted by: Iluha Apr 16 2008, 08:14 PM

Well you are partialy right, the site isn't perfect, but it's defintly improving immensly since the whole Pavel incident, even though as you say there seem to be a new teacher every day, the new teachers are defintly proven proffesionals and know what they are doing, and I think their lessons are a proof of that!

Avecourse there won't be a "logical" order, a lesson order is something that is changing depending on the person, and I think there are enough of good lessons on here for anyone to build his own plan to reach the style they want, but if you want a true logical order of lessons according to you'r specific needs, than go to a private teacher, it is indeed the best way to learn! but only take to considoration that you will pay for a month what you would pay here for 6, and that it might take a while until you find the teacher who best serves you'r needs.

Oh and I know I was the one that said this site is going on the wrong track, but im not contradicting(is that how you spell it?) myself here, this is evidence that I see the site is truly improving and going on the right track(in my opinion)! so keep up the excellent work Kris, I'm very happy that I feel more than satisfied with the site again

Posted by: Fran Apr 16 2008, 08:15 PM

Well it's obvious that you don't like it at all, so bye bye...

Just to give another point of view, after reading yours: I'm the happiest human being on the face of planet Earth since I joined GMC.

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Apr 16 2008, 08:17 PM

You can't please everybody, so if you don't like GMC... well, leave and look for lessons that please you somewhere else.

Posted by: Pi38 Apr 16 2008, 08:19 PM

This is part of what makes GMC great. When one person says "I don't like this website, bye.", everybody jumps in and asks why, and wishes you the best of luck, and tries to make this place better. It's not just the lessons, it's the people in the community, too. Sorry for replying so much, but I feel strongly about how awesome this place is.

Posted by: Iluha Apr 16 2008, 08:21 PM

Indeed, probably the best thing about the site is the great community, contains musicians of all levels and all genres, and everyone are friendly.

Posted by: DeepRoots Apr 16 2008, 08:25 PM

Exactly- people on this site have helped me so much- and i'm going to return that help to whoever needs it because i know first hand how much of a boost we can get from a little friendly help within minutes of asking for that help.

On a side note...

Surely the site cannot suck that bad...you're still logged on, right?



Anyhow, enjoy your guitar journey..i hope you make it big.

Posted by: ibanezkiller Apr 16 2008, 08:25 PM

YES!

Posted by: steve25 Apr 16 2008, 08:27 PM

Sorry you didn't find what you were looking for here on gmc, everyone has to find their way of learning. I do think the lessons are good hear generally however sometimes i do find myself asking 'so what did i learn from this exactly?' but this isn't enough to make me want to leave i will be learning from this site for a while to come.

Posted by: Mark. Apr 16 2008, 08:31 PM

Well Bye Bye

Tell me if you see a better site xD I don't know if that's possible but anyways

Mark.

Posted by: superize Apr 16 2008, 08:32 PM

I really think that the community here is the best on the internet.....

I spend many many hoursa day on GMC and i think i spend about 60-70 % of that time just redaing the forums or waiting for someone to write something interesting....

Woner hopw good i will be if i spend more time with the guitar

Posted by: Mark. Apr 16 2008, 08:34 PM

True,
If you want to practice guitar a lot,
dont join the GMC forum

Posted by: superize Apr 16 2008, 08:35 PM

Thats true ....Its very addictive

Posted by: Pi38 Apr 16 2008, 08:37 PM

Definitely. I just don't understand why anyone would want to leave such an awesome website. There are a few minor flaws, but the good out-weighs the bad by about 50 tons.

Posted by: skennington Apr 16 2008, 08:45 PM

I personaly can say that the lessons and members here have taught me everything I know about guitar. When I joined back in November of last year, I had just bought my first guitar. Now i'm playing my own stuff and uploading takes and things. So I have not only learned to play but also how to record and have met alot of great people along the way.

I'm sorry you feel the way you do about GMC. Maybe just get a little more active and tell people how you feel and dont be afraid to ask for help. I think if you take a little different approach you may get better results.

I cant imagine anybody not finding at least a few lessons here that that they like. OK, maybe if your into Hanna Montanna or something, gees, this place has everything to offer and I love it!

Steve

Posted by: Pi38 Apr 16 2008, 08:48 PM

Posted by: black and white Apr 16 2008, 08:54 PM

Well that wasn't very constructive. Best of luck, hope you find what makes you happy.

Personally, I am another one who has learned more from this site in a few short months than in years of trying to learn guitar myself. I also think that this site is remarkable in how much value you get for the price of membership.

It is easy to remark about things you may not like, much more difficult to propose positive ways to influence change. I do not see a whole lot that needs to be fixed here........and if things do change, I would rather be a part of that here.

Posted by: Canis Apr 16 2008, 08:55 PM

I love this site with all of my heart. It's the same with me as wth many other people: I have improved in so many ways since I joined this site and forums =)
Allthough, if you want to leave, then I won't hold you back

Posted by: Bondy Apr 16 2008, 08:56 PM

whats with all the iam leaving GMC your not exactly a valued member of our community do you posted a hole fifty times if ya dont like it just leave were not going to beg ya to stay

Posted by: Nemanja Filipovic Apr 16 2008, 08:57 PM

Bye,and good luck with your playing......

Posted by: Muris Varajic Apr 16 2008, 09:03 PM

Ohh,I'm really sorry to hear.

However,please give us feedback on how to improve things!

Good bye and good luck tho.

Posted by: DeepRoots Apr 16 2008, 09:04 PM

well, while i know this guy isn't in our top 20 posters (and ofcourse he's fairly new too) i also know that everybody is valued in a way..its kind of whats cool about the site. Maybe he hasn't posted that much but like he's already said- it's not the quantity, its the quality...(okay, i haven't seen a life changing post yet but thats besides the point). To say that somebody brings no value to a place is not really the best news to be received by the guy in question.

But hey, why am i posting this stuff? His mind is made up anyways.

Posted by: Bondy Apr 16 2008, 09:15 PM

What i mean is i never even heard of this guy anyway why all the hoo haa about leaving who cares go with some flipping dignity rather then saying you going when you have only been here for like 3 months like i said who cares

Posted by: MickeM Apr 16 2008, 09:16 PM

Wow... this thread got lots of attention. I dare to say it's because someone degraded something 99% here enjoy and we all feel like raising our voices

Me too

I'd just want to say I'm sorry to see you leave. For GMC to continously improve your experience and opinion is important. You made you point. It would be appreciated to know more about what you're looking for in a lesson. I'm positive your input there would give us new ideas.

If you care to expound and suggest, before you leave, that would me most appreciated.

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Apr 16 2008, 09:19 PM

goodbye and good luck, you will need it 'cos I don't think you can find other site better that this

Posted by: Canis Apr 16 2008, 09:27 PM

+1

As many people have said, including me: I have learned more here on 6 months (has it been this long allready?) then two years of training on my own. Especially on the forums. The lessons is awesome, and I learn a buttload of things there, but it's the forums that make this whole thing work. We have some of the greatest and kindest instructors here, who thirsts and long for passing on their knowledge to us students.

Thank you GMC =)

Posted by: steve25 Apr 16 2008, 09:30 PM

Bondy came out with what i resisted saying . In all fairness all opinions i think are valued and if you want to have your say fair enough but could have been done in a different way maybe?

Posted by: drw84215 Apr 16 2008, 09:35 PM

im missing somthing on this site then because i dont see any of this. the lessons dont explain anything. they just say ok play this song like this. and thats it. they dont explain theory in the lesson or other ways to play what they are learnings. and besides the theory board the theory lessons suck. there are alot better websites out there. the mode lessons are pretty bad. but hey if this is ur idea of the best site ever then all power to u. sure i learned some cool riffs but i dont want to learn other no name guitar players riffs. i want to learn the theory behind stuff. any1 can play a cool metal progression when its tabbed out infrount of them

Posted by: Bondy Apr 16 2008, 09:39 PM

Man iam gonna bit my tongue here Andrews theory lessons are awesome even i have learn from them and iam rubbish at theory you obviously to hard to please

Posted by: steve25 Apr 16 2008, 09:42 PM

I think you're kind of expecting someone to hold your hand the way there to mastering guitar. A lot of these lessons are demonstrating how you can use these things in your own playing and after a while as you learn these lessons you start to develop ideas yourself. Someone correct me if i'm wrong

Posted by: superize Apr 16 2008, 09:50 PM

Now i relly think you are very negative...ITt sounds like you want evything handed to you on paper....You have to work your way with everything....take the theori for example.... When you read a theori piece from that Andrew wrote you ant expect to have learn evrything in that subject you have to figure something out yourself.... I dont think their are any sites that gives you everyting free without you have to work anything

Posted by: Jeff Apr 16 2008, 09:53 PM

Maybe you can think of GMC as being more than just video lessons and theory. For example, there are a lot of things that I have learned here such as:

I use Protools because I learned about it from Marcus Lavendell (as well as vibrato)
I use Reaper because I learned about it from Tony Miro
I use VST's because of Andrew and Muris
I use my ring sometimes to play cool notes that I learned from Juan
I learned how to use my Spider II Amp from David Wallimann
I've had some good advice about warming up from Matt
I've learned about Video camera's from Wallimann + Smells
I've learned about new Metal bands from The Uncreator
I've learned drum techniques from Kyle

The list goes on and on. To me it's more than video lessons and theory. Of course not every lesson is for everyone and nothing is perfect. But, there is a lot more to the whole experience and maybe that is something to consider that you get besides just videos. Personally, for all of that it's worth it to me. So, consider sticking around for a while. Maybe you'll discover that there is a lot more good things going on here than you realize.

Posted by: DeepRoots Apr 16 2008, 09:53 PM

OMG...

..okay...well instead of trying to put a positive swing on this i'll go ahead and say- your not putting in the work.

Here's what i did..

I studied the theory lessons, i asked questions to instructors when i didn't understand.

notice the things in bold are things that you have to do yourself..

Now i understand the things i didn't have a clue about. The resources are here to use. Use them. The instructors genuinely love to help us out and answer our questions (from my experience), and will not leave anybody behind.

So...if you don't understand the "point" of a lesson, don't say it "sucks"- maybe...

" Hello, Mr.ABC, i was wondering what the main thing i should grasp about this lesson is? I see you're using 123 technique, and also spoke about XYZ, but i don't really get this yet- what should i learn first?"

*TADA*

You will be answered.

You will understand.


and yet again...those immature words like "suck" really don't win any debates around here.

1) "ABC sucks"
or
2) "I dislike ABC because...."

notice to 1) all we can do is say.."sure, whatever, good luck with that" and to 2) we can say "Well, perhaps this is because..."

Posted by: Pi38 Apr 16 2008, 09:54 PM

Yeah, if people just tell you the "right" way to play, then you won't have your own, unique, style.

Posted by: ActiveX Apr 16 2008, 09:54 PM

If you can't learn from this site, then there is something wrong with you. In the six months I've been here, I've learned way more and improved more than I did with 2+ years of private lessons; not to mention that private lessons cost WAY more. Finding this site was one of the best things that has happened to me during the past year; it has renewed my passion for playing the guitar, and the community here is the best that I have ever come across on the web.

Like others have said if you don't like it, you're entitled to your opinion, and you're free to leave.
I won't be following you anytime soon though

Posted by: Nick325 Apr 16 2008, 10:00 PM

if you dont like it leave.

Posted by: mattacuk Apr 16 2008, 10:08 PM

Well it sure is a shame you dont like GMC but.... really I see no need to announce your leaving.

What do you want exactly for such a small fee? I and many others have managed to build up a solid skill set from scratch. That is not just technique, but theory also. Sure I have had to be proactive about peiceing everything together, but thats what learning is all about

Something is only rewarding if your prepared to be the effort in. Sorry if thats not what you wanted to here, but its a fact of life.

Goodbye and Good luck in whatever you do

Posted by: coffeeman Apr 16 2008, 10:08 PM

Thank God everybody thinks different, do you imagine how would it be if everyone thought the same way? Good luck finding something that fits your needs at this moment.

Posted by: MickeM Apr 16 2008, 10:19 PM

drw84215 - not constructive at all, somewhat rude really.

I'm starting to see where the problem really is at. Announcing your departure and all...

Posted by: mattacuk Apr 16 2008, 10:23 PM

Elvis has left the building !!

Posted by: Smells Apr 16 2008, 10:23 PM

Absolutly spot on! nothing is handed to you on a plate, its all about hard work and effort, if these guys (both members & instructors) dont give you the motivation and inspiration to do that then I dont really know what will.

I think by the sounds of it you miss the point about the lessons, these guys are sharing with you a wealth of experience and knowledge, things they have taken many years to learn and master, and they are showing you how to do it without the frustrating bit in between where else will you get that for such a small fee?
Take what they are showing you and USE it for yourself, thats what will help you develop as a guitarist with your OWN style.
If theres things you wanted to know or be shown why didnt you simply ask??

I wish you luck on your guitar learning journey I hope you find what you are looking for.

Posted by: shellshock1911 Apr 16 2008, 10:29 PM

There are plenty of good lessons on this site.

I do not care how many instructors there are to be honest, if you are looking for good quality lessons, why do you care about how many instructors make them? It seems you should be ONLY caring about quality, and nothing else, like you said, but you still manage to complain about instructor quantity, which you said you don't care about.

However, I am going to have to agree with him somewhat on the explanations in lessons, some lessons are just a video divided up with a tab, and I don't really get much out of them except maybe how to play the lesson, I am unable to apply them in other situations. There are some of Pavel's videos where he actually has the guitar there and is playing, talking, explaining, as the video goes, I like those kind. David Walliman makes really good lessons as well, I like the 5 minute or so spoken thing at the beginning of all his videos and how he lays it all out theory wise. Joe Kataldo also goes in depth very much when it comes to his lessons, I think all lessons should be like this.

Posted by: blindwillie Apr 16 2008, 10:40 PM

/wave

You are doing the right thing. If you don't like it, leave. No big deal.
You seem to regret trying out GMC. Never regret anything you have done. Regret the things you haven't done.

/bye

Posted by: MickeM Apr 16 2008, 10:43 PM

I think that sums it all up.

Posted by: Kizaze44 Apr 16 2008, 10:43 PM

A year ago I could only play pentatonic licks in A. Now I can pick up my axe and (almost) nail Marcus' Winding Roads.

'nuff said.

Posted by: audiopaal Apr 16 2008, 10:48 PM

Ah, the lessons don't explain anything and the theory lessons suck and all you learn here is obviously no name guitarists riffs and there are, of course, tons of better websites out there..

Why are you still here again?


If you're this negative about it to begin with you're never gonna learn anything useful.
You need to want to learn and get better at the things you practice from lessons and the theory board, and not expect that everything will just pop into your mind and make you that much better just by looking at it.

I really hope you find another site that meets your demands on quality and learning curve, good luck

Posted by: Muris Varajic Apr 16 2008, 11:57 PM

Another funny thread to say the least.

Posted by: fkalich Apr 17 2008, 12:06 AM

I blame the American Public School system for this.

edit: oh, and televsion, can't leave them out in shaping thought processes such as we see here.

Posted by: sam47 Apr 17 2008, 12:12 AM

GOOD BYE , Who ever you are!!!!!

Posted by: Marshmall0wz Apr 17 2008, 12:21 AM

QUADRATIC FORMULA NUMBER 11!

ME + GMC=

Posted by: RIP Dime Apr 17 2008, 12:51 AM

I said it a long time ago in http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=3077&hl= thread, and I said it recently in the feedback forum. I got most of my learning from the 101 lessons, and I really liked them, but when kris stopped doing these lessons is when I stopped needing them, because I learned how to practice, how to phrase, and several speed lick ideas.

If you just started learning guitar then you probably need a more personal 1 on 1 feel, so go to the early 101 lessons, they are great and there are a good number of them(although I'd love to see more ). Those have everything layed out and explained very well by a wierd, entertaining, really cool Swedish guy.

Isn't that what you wanted? More explanation, and how to apply it to your own playing? It's all here sir, you just gotto do a bit of digging, because most of the 101 lessons are old. Those explain how to do something and how to apply it to your own playing, after you finish those you should be able to benefit more from the current riff/licks/solo lessons. Is that not enough for you? I guess so.

Posted by: shellshock1911 Apr 17 2008, 01:38 AM

This post made me cringe. You blame instructors on being lazy and not pulling their part indirectly and then you fail to support your post with any grammar once so ever. People may take you more seriously if you didn't seem like a 9 year old kid whining.

Andrew's theory lessons are as good as they get, trust me, if you would like, I can post a picture of the theory instructional books I have spent about $100 on. After going through all these, I can safely say that with the proper time dedicated, asking questions, and studying and understanding, Andrew's theory lessons are all you will ever need. Music isn't about all about theory like you seem to think, I used to think it was, and trust me, it isn't. Most of the riffs and solos I have come up with are purely from what I hear in my head, I may use theory to perfect them or something, but overall, it is not THAT important. Especially melodic theory like scales/modes etc, frankly I understand them very well but they are of no use to me. Rhythmic theory I think is much more important and you should spend time on them.

You post makes no senese at the end. You don't want to learn "no name guitar player riffs," so that means what you want to learn is guitar riffs that are well-known, well guess what, you can get free tabs for those. Wait, you don't like tabs either. I just don't get what you want. And besides, no one says you have to look at the tabs in the lessons here, you can read the theory notes, learn the scales that the lesson is based in, and figure them out by ear, I have done it.

I could say much more, but for now I would just leave it that you are just way too ignorant to be talking right now.

/Bye

Posted by: ibanezkiller Apr 17 2008, 01:48 AM

WOAH! I love Andrews theory lessons and have learned a lot about music theory from them. Every day I print one up, and every day I read it in school. They are top of the line! And another thing. GMC CAN NOT tell you what to play, it here to teach you what you need to learn to develop you own riffs and such. They give you example to learn and you apply it. GMC gives you the education, but you need to work on your end to apply what you learned to your instrument.

Posted by: rokchik Apr 17 2008, 02:15 AM

This is probably kicking a dead horse but I still wanted to put in my two cents

@drw84215 - Well I have to agree with pretty much all that has been said here in this thread. I don't think it was very productive on your part to post your departure the way you did. The majority of us members here are very passionate about this site, basically a home away from home, so when you insult the site you insult us pretty much.

I am a firm believer in what you get out of something depends on what you put into it and I don't think you really gave GMC much of a chance. If you're looking for someone to hold your hand and tell ya what to practice and how to practice then yes GMC is probably not for you and maybe you should look into private lessons as I'm sure you won't find that kind of 1 on 1 on the web. If that sounds snarky I apologize but it is the truth.

GMC is so much more then just video lessons. It's a community where people help each other achieve a common goal which is to improve on guitar. I understand what you're saying about the lessons. I can't say that I agree with you 100% but it sounds like you may have had some great suggestions. The beauty of this community is that when suggestions are made the administrators listen, heck we even have a sub forum for such topics. It may have been more productive to post your suggestions there instead of claiming that this place "sucks". GMC is always looking for ways to improve so I'm sure your suggestions would have been welcome.

Now getting back your idea of lack of structure, at least that's how I took it. Practice is a very individual thing, for someone else to just set up a generic list of what lessons to practice is just boring in my opinion. I don't want someone telling me what to practice, I have enough people at work who tell me what to do I don't need it with guitar too. However if you weren't sure what to practice and wanted suggestions as to how to proceed, well I have no doubt someone would have helped you out.

Did you try the lesson planner on the main page? It's a great little feature. Helps you create your own schedule. Also The lessons are even assessed levels of difficulty now so you could even go by that if you wanted. Also have the bookmarking feature for easy access. How often did you go through the forum? I've said it so many times now I think I'll make a t-shirt but the Forum is just as important as the lessons. They go hand in hand IMO. I mean besides all the great GMC members who have a wealth of knowledge that they are eager to share, the instructors have their own boards where you can pose questions that I assure you they will answer if they can. The key to success is a bit of effort.... on your part.

Now you already made your decision to leave, not even sure if you'll even read this rather long post but if you think this site "sucks" then fine it's your opinion. However I challenge you to find another site where the creator is just as active as most of the members, the instructors are some of the most active posters on the forum and not just on their own boards, where members can become student instructors with the chance of becoming actual instructors, you can create virtual bands, post original material and receive honest constructive feedback, share your lyrics, chat live with others, join in competitions for amazing prizes, get real honest reviews on just about everything, join in on collaborations, a guitar wiki and some of the nicest people on the web, well if you can find all that fine all the more power to you. But personally I think that you just left the best place on the web.

Good luck with your practicing man and I hope you find whatever it s your looking for.

rok

Posted by: Guitarman700 Apr 17 2008, 03:13 AM

Best Post in this thread!

Posted by: Smikey2006 Apr 17 2008, 03:15 AM

i wanna kick the dead horse too GMC OWNS!( this is probably the only thing i can spam on this site and still get an AMEN ever time ) also if you think there are bad quality lessions.. then only watch the good quality ones.. to tell the truth i only have about 12 lessions book marked.. but every time i need another good 1 the best way to find 1 if you don't want to search is well.. ASK!.. i log in every day and ive watched just about every lession that has been made on this site since i got here.. and there are people who have lessions book marked from every genre! instead of saying this is too cluttered say.. excuse me Mr The Uncreator which is the best Metal lession in your opinion.. or.. HEY MURIS I WANNT WORK ON AP do you have a lession that could help me?...

My 2 cents

Posted by: Gus Apr 17 2008, 03:34 AM

Wow, that's a huge thread. Well, I won't give a full read, but just a thought for the initial poster.

I don't like all the lessons the same, but I just learned what are the kinds of lessons I like, and some preferred instructors (which of course will vary based on the style you want to play). From time to time I check oldest lessons from these instructors.
I always check the new stuff, and bookmark what I want to learn... Sometimes something just pops up to my eyes on the random lessons part, and yes I like it...

I am pretty sure if you think about the songs you listen on the radio you would probably say also that for every good song there are 10 bad songs (since I can read from your post that you are mindset about style)

Also, the forum is worth even more than the videos, I'd say...

Posted by: Outlaw2112 Apr 17 2008, 03:41 AM

I have to admit that i was very upset when Pavel left, but im not going anywhere... Its the best value out there...
I like GMC, i just wish there were more riff lessons....hint, hint...

Posted by: kahall Apr 17 2008, 04:57 AM

Later Tater.

Posted by: Trond Vold Apr 17 2008, 05:22 AM

A new lesson everyday is too much?
You seem to forget that there are other members on this site aswell who might need a new lesson that day.
And maybe that lesson you think is just a qouta-filling bad one turns out to be highly valuable lesson to someone else?

Shame to see you leave like this, but the site does not evolve around just you.

Good luck with your further learning.

Posted by: inertia Apr 17 2008, 06:18 AM

Well it's too bad you didn't get as much out of the site as I think most of us do. Honestly I highly doubt you're going to find a better site than this one.

The way I look at most of the daily video lessons is like this: they are a combination of exercises to become more proficient with different aspects of playing such as alternate picking etc. and they are examples of how to construct riffs and solos using different keys and scales. The videos do not normally go in depth about theory, that's where Andrew's lessons come in. These really need to be studied, you can't just read them and through osmosis understand how it all works, you have to internalize the information and try to apply it yourself. Maybe you would benefit more from one on one lessons with a person who walks you through the theory...I find sometimes someone explaining something to me face to face is easier than reading it from a book anyway.

Good luck.

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Apr 17 2008, 04:26 PM

You know... constructive criticism is a great thing, if you don't like something about this site, why don't you just start a topic about this and discuss about it, maybe the negative aspect that you see applies to others too and we can change it. But what you do is not constructive at all, it is just bashing... well, that's a waste of time, sorry. If you don't understand something about a lesson, why don't you just ask the instructor? You will be surprised, we answer questions if we are asked. If a new lesson each day is too much for you, why don't you skip some of them and just focus on your fave ones? And guess what, if you want to learn how to play guitar, well sorry again, you will HAVE to work for this, like the other students do too and as all of us instructors also did, unfortunately you don't learn how to play an instrument by reading some theoretical tutorials.
But well, I will stop this now, have fun looking for a better place

Posted by: Vinod Saranga Apr 17 2008, 04:33 PM

well said Marcus +1

Posted by: at lights end Apr 17 2008, 04:36 PM

silly.
bye then!

Posted by: RIP Dime Apr 17 2008, 04:39 PM

Oh and BTW, Andrew's theory lessons kick ass, if you didn't understand ANYTHING you could have brought it up in the theory board and he and other members would try thier best to help you.

Posted by: Rolls Apr 17 2008, 04:46 PM

man I'm getting tired of seeing these kinds of threads :S

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Apr 17 2008, 04:50 PM

A lot of people are. It seems like they want to rub it in that GMC is losing a member but god knows how many new members join each day. There will always be people who leave and they may even come back in the future. We don't need a thread for everyone lol otherwise there would be a lot of I'm Leaving GMC thread.

Maybe we should have a sticky thread called I'm leaving GMC for everyone to post their leaving messages in there lol

Posted by: Danilo Capezzuto Apr 17 2008, 05:44 PM

Sorry...and good luck, keep playing!!

Posted by: Slammer Apr 17 2008, 06:36 PM

For the record... I learned more about Music Theory just from reading Andrew's "Chords for Scales" Lesson. Than I had learned in my previous 5 years of playing guitar.

Andrew Pwns.

Nuff said

Posted by: mattacuk Apr 17 2008, 06:43 PM

Andrew does indeed "Pwn"

Posted by: Pi38 Apr 17 2008, 07:01 PM

Posted by: Slammer Apr 17 2008, 07:09 PM

Exactly

Posted by: Smikey2006 Apr 17 2008, 08:06 PM

btw .. where is andrew.. its been a while since ive heard from him.. im sure hes still kicken but...

Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Apr 17 2008, 08:08 PM

He has still been around the forums. Just very busy no doubt and doesn't have the time to post much at the current time.

I'm sure he'll be back posting soon. Either that or he is upset that Muris reached 7000 posts before him

Posted by: Hisham Al-Sanea Apr 17 2008, 08:30 PM

as i said before we just have a goodluck for any one who wants to leave so goodluck again