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Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 18 2016, 11:38 PM

Hello everybody!

Welcome to my new GMC collaboration. This one is based in the style of Paradise Lost and the cool thing is that Kristofer Dahl is already writing lyrics to sing on this one!

As we want to make this song the cooler possible we would like to invite everybody to join and record your solos, guitar arrangements and ideas over the track to use it for the final mix.

Backing track:  Paradise_Lost_Style.mp3 ( 3.79MB ) : 417


Tempo: 90 bpm

Chord progression:

Intro: (G5 - C5 -Eb5 - D) x2
Verse: (G5 - Eb5 D5 Bb5) x4
Bridge: (Dsus2 - Gm - Bb) x2
Chorus: (G5 - C5 -Eb5 - D) x2

Scales choices:

You can use G minor or G Pentatonic minor everywhere except when Dsus2 chord is played on the bridge. There you MUST be careful and use one of these options: D pentatonic major, D mixolydian or G major scale. If you are a beginner don't worry, avoid playing over this part and jam over the other sections.

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator

Over Dsus4:
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/scalegenerator


IMPORTANT INFO About files required:

In order to make the things easier for compiling takes and mixing I need that each participant shares 3 files:

- Audio file with the mix of the backing and your guitar.
- Audio file only with your guitar (If possible this audio should have the same length than the mix version)
- Video of you playing the solo, and if it's not possible a picture.

The best way to share this is compressing in a zip file to be downloaded from here or using sharing service as dropbox, wetransfer, and copying the link here.

If you decide to share your files using soundcloud please remember to "allow downloads".

Thanks!

DEADLINE: May 18th

Who is in?
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END RESULT:

Posted by: Todd Simpson Apr 19 2016, 12:38 AM

Despite my late entry in to the last collab, I"d like to be the first one on in this one I think it's built in a way that I could have some very "teachable moments" in the solo section so I'll probably do a chat lesson with bits of the resulting solo. I"m in!

Todd

Posted by: Chris S. Apr 19 2016, 03:27 AM

Count me in, mate!

Posted by: fzalfa Apr 19 2016, 06:59 AM

Damn !!!

yes !! i let my work down for this one !!!

Laurent

Posted by: ChrisGLP Apr 19 2016, 08:05 AM

Hi Gab, I am IN.

I also want to try to add a pipe organ in the background to make it a little bit more "mystical"... ok??

Over the G Major Scale you have written "Over Dsus4".... I think its "Over Dsus2"....?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Apr 19 2016, 08:12 AM

YEAH!!!!

Paradise Lost might be my all time favorite metal band. If you haven't yet - check out the albums "Icon", "Draconian Times" and "Tragic Idol".

I am itching to get recording!

P.S. I'm in

Posted by: fzalfa Apr 19 2016, 08:40 AM

i have all of these !!!!

draconian time is awesome, i have buyed it when released, it was elected "album of the month" in my favorite metal magasine.
so i buyed it !! no regret !

Tragic idol is awesome too !!

Laurent

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Apr 19 2016, 08:47 AM

Yes - it's really cool to see a band revisit a 'previous sound' of theirs but still with a really fresh approach (I don't feel they are repeating or copying themselves in any way)

Posted by: fzalfa Apr 19 2016, 09:21 AM

Hey

this is a raw preview of my contrib..... very inspirating !!

https://soundcloud.com/laurent-377054242/paradise-1

another take

https://soundcloud.com/laurent-377054242/paradise-3

Laurent

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Apr 19 2016, 02:15 PM

I kinda want to sing on this maybe. Maybe maybe. If there's room for it!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 19 2016, 02:21 PM

Great guys! I'm sure that this will be a KILLER track when finished!

I've never heard newer albums after those that sound closer to Depeche Mode. I also like these albums, as well as the classic style. I'm surprised that they have been editing newer music that sounds as good and fresh as their first productions.

Another band that I like in this style is Katatonia.

Hi Laurent! Cool soloing here! I can use any of these ones for the final track however I know that you can polish even more your take, define phrases and give more attention to feeling. You have more time so keep on working!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Apr 19 2016, 02:29 PM

Go for it mate!! Also, my take might need enhancing with some growling, as I don't do the low type of screams. I hope to have mine up in a week.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Apr 19 2016, 02:43 PM

Awesome, Kris! Do you have the lyrics?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Apr 19 2016, 03:08 PM

Preliminary lyrics:

I’m not in vain
A passing dawn
A lie sustained
A rise & fall

You'll never see the break of dawn
You’ll never meet me until all
Get to feel my broken heart
Don’t try to tell me cause I know...

...I’m not in vain (x4)

Posted by: fzalfa Apr 19 2016, 03:33 PM

sound dark and good !

agree !

Laurent

Posted by: bleez Apr 19 2016, 05:29 PM

awesome backing track

Posted by: Chris S. Apr 19 2016, 08:47 PM

My first impression:

https://soundcloud.com/stortzmusic/gmc-paradise-lost-collab-my-take-rough-draft

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 20 2016, 02:41 PM

Interesting! I like the fact that your phrasing reminds me to Marylin Manson's Sweet Dream solo. Your phrasing is cool, I like how the solo evolves regarding rhythm and notes range.

I think that the note choices can be wiser. Mostly those notes in which you stay. try to analyse the notes compared with the chord sounding and see if there is a better option. It's a slow process but that's how we work on details when solo doesn't appear by once naturally (this magic doesn't always appear). In this cases, hard work is the way.

Posted by: Todd Simpson Apr 20 2016, 03:39 PM

Cool take here Fzalfa!! Your hard work is paying dividends!!

Gabe: the guys in katatonia considered themselves Paradise Lost fanboys and it heavily influenced their style. The albums that Paradise did that sound like depeche mode were the most commercially successful that they have ever done but as you might guess it really irritated their fan base when a doom/gothic/metal band went all "synth pop"! The new record should be out in JUNE of this year I think. More heavy stuff I hope
Todd

Posted by: fzalfa Apr 20 2016, 06:37 PM

Finaly i share this take.

https://soundcloud.com/laurent-377054242/paradise-7

Laurent

Posted by: Darius Wave Apr 20 2016, 07:33 PM

Great one Gab! I'll make everything that's possible to join as well

Posted by: GeneT95 Apr 21 2016, 02:24 AM

Just working on some ideas. A bit rough here and there and some flail notes. Gotta figure an ending and fix timing. You know, all the normal sh$%.

https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/lost1-collab2

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 21 2016, 02:31 PM

Yeah, I'm one of those persons who also enjoyed the Depeche Mode style albums... I've noticed that many of these gothic/doom bands started to sound more synth pop, it was curious to see so many bands going on that direction.





Great take Laurent! Your solo is very catchy and the note choices is totally catchy. I specially enjoyed the bridge section, you resolved it really well. Very enjoyable solo! Thanks!





This is a good first draft! I think that if you fix those wrong notes that appear here and there, and work more on timing, this can be a good solo. A little details that I'd like to mark is that the overall evolution could be adjusted too. For example, I feel that the intro phrases have too many notes, I would go for something more simple and gradually increase notes / speed.

Posted by: fzalfa Apr 21 2016, 02:53 PM

thanks for listening, i have retain a lot of parts of this early take, now i m searching how to complete this collab, and do a worked prestation instead of my habitual improvisation ,i'll try to give you something worked in few words

Laurent

Posted by: GeneT95 Apr 21 2016, 06:48 PM

Yeah, Gab, I agree. I was fitting in more notes the second half of the intro and also thought that just mirroring the rhythm riff/mirror in 3rd, that is would be better sounding and transition. Sometimes, with so little time, I try to fit in too many ideas.

Posted by: GeneT95 Apr 21 2016, 11:09 PM

A second take. Cleaned up a bit, dropped some notes, changed some things. Still workin on it.

https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/lost1-collab3

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Apr 22 2016, 07:56 AM

I think the "Depeche Mode" era was pretty ok, their songwriting has always been good.

I can't help but think that the reason "One Second" was their most commercially successful album, was simply because of anticipation from the industry. This was the follow-up album to Icon and Draconian times - presumably boosted with a larger marketing budget than ever.

If you ask me - the "Depeche Mode" style albums that followed were much stronger musically.

Luckily for the world, Paradise Lost released the album "Tragic Idol" in 2012 - which to me is easily up to par with their old material.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 22 2016, 02:16 PM

Hi mate, this is much better!

I think that the intro connects smoother now with the main riff. However, my favourite part starts at 00:30 (the verse). I think that the phrases there are really good, very expressive. The evolution of your phrasing there is perfect!

I also think that what you play over the bridge sounds great but has some scale issues. When D sounds, you change the scale correctly, however you need to get back to the previous scale as soon as the following chord is played. There are weird things between 00:53 and 00:58, being more notorious at 00:57. Please re-check the scale used there.






For the curious that don't know what we are talking about... this is the Depeche More era:






Great songs by the way...

Posted by: GeneT95 Apr 22 2016, 10:32 PM

Thanks Gab.

At 53 section I think I shift from D major scale hammer ons to (unfortunately) Fmajor/Dmin form by mistake or because it had tension. I could try it like that leaving the first note (which acts as the pedal for the hammer ons) oddly sharp for the underlying chord if I played the last note a 1/2 step down (where it should be for Bb/Gmin) but I'll probably end up playing the proper scale Bb/Gmin.

Posted by: fzalfa Apr 24 2016, 08:46 AM

Hi Gabriel

this is another take, need a little more work where i fail during a solo..... still work on



cheers

Laurent

Posted by: Beat Zbinden Apr 24 2016, 08:52 AM

Nice Take!!

Posted by: fzalfa Apr 24 2016, 08:56 AM

thanks a lot beat !

Laurent

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Apr 24 2016, 02:25 PM

I am still working on the vocals. In the meanwhile I recorded a jam over the backing - this is lots of fun!

Posted by: GeneT95 Apr 24 2016, 10:06 PM

Is that a water cooled maroon shredding sleeve?? Does it work as well as the advertisements say to offload the heat created by extreme solo'ing??

There some fantastic ideas in there Kris. Great hybrid picking and legato work.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Apr 24 2016, 10:21 PM

Haha actually it's all supposed to melt!! Thanks man

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 25 2016, 05:50 AM

You have time to experiment so if you want share here two takes with both ideas and we can analyze which one sounds better.





Awesome camera view and very cool solo! There are many parts on this solo that sound great. I like the fact that you combined melodies with some fast sections. The overall structure is balanced. Well done.





Your phrasing + tone are addictive. Great improvisation!

Posted by: ChrisGLP Apr 25 2016, 07:08 AM

Hi Gab, for the Dsus part (Bridge) I have added a pipe organ and little solo in the phrygian mode.... What do you think?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 25 2016, 02:29 PM

Sounds great!! Please send me both things in different tracks.

Posted by: GeneT95 Apr 26 2016, 12:39 AM

Think I figured out the bridge hammer on section. The second and fourth chords move slightly differently then the 1st and third. So I hung on the G rather than hammering on one more time higher in the scale.

Figured I'd torture myself and track it for fun using my Jericho Long Scale Baritone in Drop C. I just loaded with 65-13's from Wicked Wire. After grinding rust all day off the 64 GMC truck restoration project I'm doing, I think I musta been sun dazed to try.

https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/lost1-collab4

Posted by: kadir korkmaz Apr 26 2016, 10:10 AM

hi gabriel

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 26 2016, 03:11 PM

Yeah, now you figured it out. Well done!





Awesome!! It's great to see you joining this one mate. Thanks a lot for the files.

Posted by: kadir korkmaz Apr 26 2016, 06:30 PM

thy

Posted by: ChrisGLP Apr 27 2016, 12:15 PM

Hi Gab, here is the sound-file "Pipe Organ" for the "Bridge"....

My sound file "Guitar" follows....

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Apr 27 2016, 02:06 PM

Great! Thanks!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 3 2016, 02:48 PM

Just an update - I have started recording today and it's crazy fun. I haven't used this type of super barky voice (bordering growling) for a long time.

But now I am also experimenting with a unison [somewhat] clean dub as well.

Fingers crossed!

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 3 2016, 03:00 PM

Any ideas as to what I can do vocal wise if anything?

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 3 2016, 03:08 PM

Yes! I can't do classic growling - so you could try to overdub and/or repeat some of the stuff I sing, like a 'growling echo'. Could be really cool.

As soon as I have something that sounds decent I will share it with you guys so you can start working on it.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 3 2016, 04:10 PM

Awesome! Thanks for the update Kris! I'm now anxious to hear!

I think that it's a good idea to also have Ben singing the same with growling so that I can do some kind of mix to give more or less power to each part.

What about the solos guys? anything new coming?

Posted by: fzalfa May 3 2016, 05:10 PM

Hi Gabriel

i still polish my take !

Laurent

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 3 2016, 05:53 PM

Awesome! Looking forward to it

Posted by: GeneT95 May 4 2016, 03:00 AM

Re-recorded my Collab file for the final. Not sure I'll get to video in the next week.

https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/lost1-collab6

Grr only
https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/lost1-collab6gtronly

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 4 2016, 10:00 AM

Here is a little teaser (the only part which sounds decent so far)

https://soundcloud.com/kristoferdahl/11-gab-paradise-lost-collab-vox-teaser

I’m not in vain
A passing dawn
A lie sustained
A rise & fall
I fall

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 4 2016, 03:48 PM

It sounds beautiful now! The wrong notes are perfect now, so great job polishing this one!

I hope you can provide a video for this one but if not, please share a good picture of yourself.






Wou!! That sounds VERY promising!! I like it.

Posted by: GeneT95 May 5 2016, 02:16 AM

Gabriel,

There are no good pictures. I'll try to get a vid up, just depends on work trip. But here is a pict that just a larger Forum Icon just in case..

http://www.usfour.us/GMC/genet.jpg

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 5 2016, 12:25 PM

New version, I think it's starting to shape up!

Guys & girls - Please feel to start working around these vocals. The are many places where guitar/vocal fills, harmonies etc are needed.


https://soundcloud.com/kristoferdahl/paradise-lost-collab-full-song-draft

MP3 file: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=44565

I’m not in vain
A passing dawn
A lie sustained
A rise & fall
I fall

You'll never see the break of dawn
You’ll never meet me until all
Get to feel my broken heart
No you can’t tell me cause I know...

...I’m not in vain

But I am lonely

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 5 2016, 01:54 PM

For some reason, when I download the track it's in M4A and can't be imported to Reaper. Any chance you could upload in another format?

Posted by: GeneT95 May 5 2016, 01:57 PM

Kris,

That's some fun stuff. The vocals are great. Now need the time to play along with it.

Edit : Hmmm. For some reason the file crashes Live too. Weird. Will have to search why.

2 Edit : Ah, M4a files, even though its the unprotected version, probably don't work in many DAWs. I converted in iTunes to Wav for Live. Here is how to do it to MP3 or Wav if you use iTunes for future reference. I have a Mac and the conversion is the same.

"Protected songs are .m4p, non-protected ones are .m4a.

These both use AAC encoding, which ableton does not support. if you import audio from CDs using the AAC setting, you end up with (non-protected) ableton-incompatible .m4a files, BUT you can actually use iTunes to convert the .m4a songs to .wav or .mp3. you just have to change your import settings to .wav or to .mp3, and then right-click (or Apple equivalent) the song in iTunes and choose "Convert to wav" or "Convert to mp3" as the case may be. at least, you can do that in the windows version."

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 5 2016, 02:23 PM

Awesome to hear you like it! Here is the mp3 version:
 11_Gab_paradise_lost_collab_draft_vocals.mp3 ( 2.63MB ) : 70

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 5 2016, 03:08 PM

heheheh KILLER!!! I have this one in repeat!! Great job Kris with those vocals, melodies and lyrics! I can't get out of my head the "I'm in vain" phrase...

I think that we have a killer new hit!! Please Ben feel free to duplicate vocals with your growling voice to have it for the final mix. I won't use it all the time but I think that it can be really cool for the chorus and some parts.... you can also try some "responses" to the words sang by Kris, like a delay but with screaming vocals... Everything you can experiment is welcome.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 5 2016, 03:11 PM

Here's a quick draft for some vocals:

https://soundcloud.com/benjamin-storm-linnebjerg/vocal-for-collab-draft-1

I wish I could sing like you, Kris!

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 5 2016, 03:54 PM

Cool, sounds so much deeper and darker than my vocals!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 5 2016, 09:48 PM

Awesome vocals. Very dark. I like it a lot! Please record over the other parts to have some back for the final mix.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 5 2016, 09:51 PM

Will do so tomorrow

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 6 2016, 12:43 PM

Here's my full take on it:

https://soundcloud.com/benjamin-storm-linnebjerg/growl-for-paradise-lost-collab

Will have the individual files for you soon And a video of course.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 6 2016, 01:08 PM

Sound very cool to me Ben!

Thought: Have you sung this with my take? I think it would make most sense for us to hear your take with my vocals as well.

Because in the end - what matters are all the "little" interactions/details between the the different vocals/instruments in the mix. That's the kind of stuff we can't really think consciously about, but for each time we perform a piece of music, we fine polish those details without necessarily realising it. These details are the reason why two takes can sound really different, even though we cannot tell exactly what makes up for that difference.

So my advice would be to not rush things, since there still is time. Maybe spend just a little bit of time with this collab on a daily basis and follow Gab's advice about dubs/responses.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 6 2016, 01:17 PM

My whole take was based around your phrasing Here's both vocals:

https://soundcloud.com/benjamin-storm-linnebjerg/growl-for-paradise-lost-collab-kris-and-ben

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 6 2016, 01:30 PM

Ok got it - that's great, Gab should be able to use this as a dub. For consistency I would suggest you try to record something over the 00:39 line as well - since you don't know exactly how he will be using your take. It might give him problems if at one place the dub is missing.

Now that you have done the dub - I would suggest you practice something different, which will be more challenging but artistically possibly more rewarding:

Try to find places where you can record something that sticks out from my take - as opposed to the "perfect dub". It can be an echo of my line, or maybe a different kind of phrasing, or just differently a pitched scream, maybe some spoken words, heavy breathing etc etc

Let me know if it makes sense!

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 6 2016, 01:39 PM

It makes se0nse. The reason I skipped 0:39 is because it's simply too high pitched for me I'll see what else I can do

Will await Gab's comments as well to see what he has to say. Not that I don't value your input, cause I do!

Posted by: GeneT95 May 6 2016, 05:18 PM

Recorded a take messing around with Kris' vocal track trying to practice balance and stuff.

Change the beginning to more match the underlying notes. And obviously the beginning verse part trying to find something inside Kris' lines.

https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/lostcollabvocaltest1

Edit. A second version. Mainly changes at the end of the opening and in the first verse-like section. And I played a doubling of the bridge panning each separate track hard r and left. Fooled around with the balance. There's a flubbed note in there too......cause darn if I can't have one of those floating around. I like the ending of the first one with the vocals alone, but thought I'd try something at the end.

https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/lostcollabvocaltest2

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 7 2016, 06:49 PM

By the way, I think me and Kris have gone in a bit of different directions:



...was my inspiration. What was yours, Kris?

Also, I double tracked my vocals for more brutality in the one posted yesterday. Here's the single track version:

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 8 2016, 04:20 PM

Cool! I think the very first response to my vocals is a keeper (at ~ 00:29 ) - in general a nice inspired jam though. Let's see what Gab says.



I have actually listened a bit to that album - although I generally don't listen much to music that uses growling instead of lead melody. I must say the growling actually suits that specific album though.

I wasn't inspired by any specific song here, but in general my biggest inspiration for this type of 'barky' singing is Hefield and Nick Holmes (from Paradise lost).

Posted by: GeneT95 May 8 2016, 04:26 PM

@Kris

Yeah I like the 1st version of the verse section best too. The second version, I think, has too much background playing in that first section. But I figured I tried some different things.

I like the second ending of the opening section better as it follows the underlying melody more. And am uncertain whether I like the non-doubled bridge or the doubled one best, but lean a bit to the doubled one.

But thanks. I appreciate the comments.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 8 2016, 05:25 PM

Hey Cael! I can say that this are killer vocals! I'm still thinking on the production of this one and I think that I'll experiment with different possibilities during the mix. Probable using both vocals all the time can be the best way to make the whole thing sound consistent however I'll try other variations to see if we can get something more creative.

I also think that you should record something over the part that you let Kris alone, just to be safe that we don't need it in the final mix. I don't think that you should go high, you can stay on a low note. Try possibilities and if you don't find them I can send you a sample tomorrow when my voice is back (I just come back from a short Cirse' tour with very cold weather).

About "responses", try it too! I can generate them using these vocals but maybe you can try in some parts to see if anything cooler appears.

I'm really happy with this one, it's turning great!

PS: The melodies and lyrics are growing on me every day.




Interesting mate! My favourite part is the bridge section, it sounds like a killer arrangement for that part.

You need to be careful with timing in the introduction. The note choices are ok but you are not going tight with the riffs.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 8 2016, 05:33 PM

Sounds good, Gabriel I haven't had the chance to try something over the high pitches scream yet, but I'll look at it over the next few days.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 8 2016, 06:55 PM

Well, you can try something that moves less than Kris vocals, you can stay on the same note... by the way try a few options and share them here so we can choose the best one.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 9 2016, 01:40 PM

I tried something just now:



I tried something just now:

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 11 2016, 01:47 AM

So awesome Ben!! Do you think that you can extend the first part of the scream to make it have the same length than Kris vocals? You can stay in the same note, it will work with Kris's change.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 11 2016, 12:48 PM

I tried several times, but I'm struggling with then going into the "yeah" part. I'll try again.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 11 2016, 05:38 PM

Practice it, we have 7 days..

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 11 2016, 05:40 PM

Or am I allowed to cheat and record it as two different parts?

Posted by: Todd Simpson May 12 2016, 08:43 PM

Todd here Very cool collab and I love how it's shaping up!!! Here is my bit
Preview first of course. Using the LTD Gl 200k and Avid Eleven Rack on this.



Link to zip with solo by itself and with backing
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2761041/ParadistLostCollab/with_and_withoutbacking.zip

link to video direct download zip
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2761041/ParadistLostCollab/ToddVid720p.mov.zip

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 13 2016, 12:51 AM

You are allowed... nobody will be told about it...




KILLER soloing as always Todd! Thanks friend! I'm glad to see that you are part of this one.

Posted by: ChrisGLP May 15 2016, 06:50 PM

Hi Gab, here are my files for the collab...

sorry, because of my job I've had not more time to offer you more....

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 16 2016, 01:35 AM

Cool playing! Thanks a lot Chris! It's great to have you on this one.

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 16 2016, 10:47 AM

Here are all my files: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5415283/Kris-PL-collab.zip

Audio starts from point 0 with count in. I have removed all time based effects (reverb, delay) but kept compressors, pitch effects and automated volume swells. Let me know if you need a different export.

I have included two different angles for the vocal video.
Very excited about this one, looking forward to the end product.

Vocals:

I’m not in vain
A passing dawn
A lie sustained
A rise & fall
I fall

You'll never see the break of dawn
You’ll never meet me until all
Get to feel my broken heart
No you can’t tell me cause I know...

...I’m not in vain

But I am lonely

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 17 2016, 01:16 AM

Great Kris! Thanks a lot.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 17 2016, 10:35 AM

I've had my parents visiting me, so I've not had time to practice or make a new, proper video. I'll get it done tomorrow or today.

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 17 2016, 01:35 PM

Ok mate, thank you!

Any other lead players joining this one? We need more solos, even short ones!

Posted by: fzalfa May 17 2016, 02:37 PM

i'll put my take today or tomorow !!!

cheers

Laurent

Posted by: bleez May 17 2016, 04:12 PM

yeah, I'll have a take posted by tomorrow at the latest.

Posted by: Todd Simpson May 18 2016, 09:41 PM

Great take and KILLER AXE!! I want one bad!! Maybe one day when they are old and used I can pick one up under my "guitar budget" which caps about $500 per instrument.

Posted by: bleez May 18 2016, 10:07 PM

here's my take, it sounded a lot better in my head
It was a difficult one.

[attachment=44622:lost.zip]

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 18 2016, 10:29 PM

Hey Gabriel. I've gone to bed now, as I'm not feeling too well. Is it okay if I upload files tomorrow?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 18 2016, 10:42 PM

There are some little weird moments, but the overall rocks mate. Thanks a lot for joining!




yes! no problem!

Posted by: fzalfa May 18 2016, 10:54 PM

hey ben

i have PM Gabriel with almost the same message.....

Laurent

Posted by: bleez May 18 2016, 11:58 PM

yeah, Im not very impressed with it, dont know what happened tbh, it sounded different to me as I was playing it live. I was in two minds whether to just delete it.

Posted by: fzalfa May 19 2016, 11:44 AM

Hi Gabriel

this is my take



and here are my files:

[attachment=44625:paradise...t_take_1.wav]
[attachment=44626:paradise...axe_only.wav]

cheers

Laurent

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 19 2016, 11:52 AM

Cool - sounds very Paradise Lost:ish to me!



I am glad you did not delete it. All takes have their ups and downs and there's lots of cool stuff here as well!



Very nice. It seems all takes were geared towards melody as opposed to shredding/licks (except mine perhaps haha ). This is exactly how it should be when writing music together - one can only fit so much shred into a song without sacrificing something else.

And yes I do recognise that guitar, is it any good?

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 19 2016, 02:09 PM

Cool! Good job with this solo mate. The first half is very tasty. Thanks for your take Laurent!

Posted by: Caelumamittendum May 19 2016, 06:49 PM

I couldn't upload to the GMC site for some reason. Hope this works: http://www.megafileupload.com/f9ue/PL_Collab.rar

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 20 2016, 03:19 PM

Ok friends! Thanks to everybody who joined this one. I'll start downloading all files during today and tomorrow to start mixing. Please re-check that you allowed downloads at soundcloud and that you provided all the necessary files for this one (audio mix, audio only guitar & video or at least photo).

Posted by: GeneT95 May 21 2016, 01:42 AM

Here my vid files. Let me know if there is a problem with them. One is with everything and one is just me......

Gabriel, do you have an email to send fro WeTransfer??

*Edit : Thanks to Kris. I figured out a dropbox link.

Here is the link to the Me only. https://www.dropbox.com/s/2tuuw0on85jnahv/LostCollabGOnlys.mp4?dl=0

And everything : https://www.dropbox.com/s/7s4s6z3kun7eeye/LostCollabVidAlls.mp4?dl=0

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 21 2016, 10:36 PM

Cool!! Thanks Gene!

Gene: I have both videos but I need your audio files. You can copy the wetransfer link here, or send it to my email: [email protected]

Posted by: GeneT95 May 22 2016, 02:19 AM

Gabriel,

Here is the soundcloud of the guitar only file and the whole collar sound file.

guitar only
https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/lostcollabfinalg

whole thing
https://soundcloud.com/shallowlines/lostcollabfinal

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 24 2016, 02:31 PM

UPDATE:

I'm working on the mix and video of this one! This is turning AWESOME.

Posted by: fzalfa May 24 2016, 04:48 PM

when when when ?????

Laurent

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 24 2016, 06:58 PM

NOW NOW NOW NOW!!



Personally I feel this might be one of the coolest collabs we have ever done. All participants were really focused on creating a song rather than just a jam medley. YOU GUYS ROCK!!

Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi May 24 2016, 07:25 PM

I'm impressed of this one! The song is killer, it could be part of any of the greatest Paradise Lost albums so let's hope one of them discovers this kind of tribute.

Congratulations to everybody who has made this one possible!!

Posted by: Mertay May 24 2016, 07:30 PM

Liked! congrats everyone!

Posted by: bleez May 24 2016, 08:11 PM

that was insane! what an amazing final edit

Posted by: fzalfa May 24 2016, 09:12 PM

WOAAAWWWW !!!

We are great \o/ !!

Laurent

Posted by: GeneT95 May 24 2016, 11:13 PM

A cool track. Great work by all and fantastic fun.

Posted by: ChrisGLP May 25 2016, 06:27 AM

I am speachless... Gab, awesome epic backing and video!!!!! THX so much for this collab!!

Please make a "Guitarmasterclass Collab DVD"

It is always very exciting for me to play a collab with the instructors and other students from all over the world. This makes GMC so unique....

Kris: It is always a great fun to play with "your" guitar while you are singing

Posted by: Daeron May 25 2016, 07:32 AM

Woaw, very nice track !
The vocals, the riffs and the lead guitars, all is well together and powerful.

Congratulations !

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl May 25 2016, 12:07 PM

Cheers guys - hope to see you in the next collab!



Haha yes people will think I have cloned myself!!

Posted by: Todd Simpson May 26 2016, 03:23 AM

Turned out great!! I think corpsepaint is a must for Kris on the next one. Keep the hood!! Next thing you know, Behomoth will be asking if it's a band or what!