Why Do Some Guitarists Become Globally Famous?, and others just as good or even better technically are not much? |
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Dec 31 2009, 06:28 PM
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what are your thoughts on this?
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Dec 31 2009, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Dec 31 2009, 06:28 PM)  what are your thoughts on this? ----------------- Marketing is what I think. Emir's thread on illegal downloading leads me to believe that a WELL PAYING career in music is going to be harder than ever......very discouraging but I think it is the reality of the world we live in. Read this article..... http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermo...wsitemID=132721 I think that unortunately talent has VERY little to do with success in the music business........  |
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Dec 31 2009, 07:08 PM
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I think talent has about 10%, willingness to sell out Yourself to crappy music 40%, knowing the right people 30% and the looks 20%... maybe I've forgotten something here??? And btw. I dont think Steve Vai is making THAT big money either (of course for beeing a guitar player he is) The problem here is that nowadays guitar players is out of style, You shall go for some speedy-words instead of speedy licks. <preferrable on top of some sampled noise that a cocaine-addicted producer put together in-between partying with his hip-hop friends!!!
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Dec 31 2009, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Dec 31 2009, 07:10 PM) Will you be my manager Staffy..... Oki, I go for that... (but first I have some things to fix... an account on Virgin Islands, some undercover company stuff and a trip to Columbia to get some inspiration for my new artist... )
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Dec 31 2009, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Dec 31 2009, 08:16 PM) Let me know when you are ready and bring me back some "inspiration" from columbia too....... I've already ordered the ticket, but unfortunately its not gonna be until the end of next year since the CBS/Virgin/Warner guy's have booked everything else in advance....
-------------------- Guitars: Ibanez AM-200, Ibanez GB-10, Fender Stratocaster Classic Player, Warmouth Custom Built, Suhr Classic Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003, Ibanez steel-string Amps: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Marshall JMP 2103, AER 60 Effects: BOSS DD-20, Danelectro Trans. Overdrive, TC-Electronics G-Major, Dunlop Wah-wah, Original SansAmp, BOSS DD-2 Music by Staffy can be found at: Staffay at MySpace |
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Dec 31 2009, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE (intemperateControl @ Dec 31 2009, 08:17 PM) I have heard technically great, and I mean great players who imitate (and even exceed) the skill level of some of the greatest known original bands and players, but who have no real fire in their own originals. Originality and fire (if you know what I mean), as well as the ability to perform it all consistently in live shows is what is necessary. This is what will enthuse both audiences and in turn the big players (labels & investors). If you read in depth about some of the greatest bands, when they were up and coming, it was their ability to enthuse large crowds that gained them popularity and ultimately got them on top - this comes first before the album sales. Did you think album sales came first before fame? I mean, requiring 50 takes for one recording and expecting to succeed by album sales alone without the preceding qualities is not reasonable. If you were an investor, Who would you invest in? "Nirvana," who performs as well live as on their recordings and has developed a real following, or the "No One Knows Them" band whose skill level seems far greater but are far less known because they can't cut it live, but are only heard by recordings? As far as looks go, most of the best rock bands of all times have some of the ugliest, meanest looking dudes I ever seen. Maybe pop star managers rely more on looks than on talent and so, shallow tunes beget reliance on mediocre minds. But, on a larger scale I personally think much more of the world around us. Who will attest any differently? I believe that we have a vastly large audience that remains untapped on a global scale here in the present day. Consider all the people you know who feel the same, and all the people they know, etc., etc. Rap sucks - suckers (is that PG enough?)! Hope so - I'm just speaking freely here- just like the music - good or bad. Guess I've said enough for today. I really like many of the the topics you guys post on here - all of which relates to our interests. Hang loose guys...  Hmmm, I think once in a while the record company's goes for the "bad boy's" to keep some sort of Rock'n'Roll image, also it has to do with general trends in both society and music. For instance, every 10-15 years or so there is a boost for hard rock/heavy metal, so the timing issue is of most importance as well imo. (and in-between we have Milli-Vanillis, Rap-raps, Spice Girls and some Elton John wanna-bees...) QUOTE (Boson @ Dec 31 2009, 08:35 PM) I'm assuming you mean cofee  Of course! Do they sell anything else in Colombia????
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Dec 31 2009, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE (Boson @ Dec 31 2009, 08:35 PM) I'm assuming you mean cofee Of course coffee.....Preferably decaf.......
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Dec 31 2009, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE (intemperateControl @ Dec 31 2009, 09:01 PM) Decaf! Get the hell outta here!!! Anyway, Where will our next meeting be taking place - aka the coffee thred... Decaf go home! Ha!  Hey, no offense intended - you're one of the best guitarists on here. But I mean hey, you need some caffeine to identify here, hahaha! 
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Dec 31 2009, 10:34 PM
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thought this was sort -of interesting after i read this thread
opps forgot to add the line http://new.music.yahoo.com/u2/news/u2-tour...erica--61874534 This post has been edited by jstcrsn: Dec 31 2009, 10:35 PM |
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