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Alex Feather
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Oct 31 2012, 08:58 AM) *
I'm still working on it, I'll record where I'm at tomorrow (I have a day off),

A/G#7/C#m/D6b5
A/Am/G#m/C#m
Amaj7/Am/Gsus4/G# dim I think it's here I have problems, around the Gsus4 part, I'll try some arpeggio type thing there maybe
A/G#7/C#m/C#7
A/Am/E2

but I would like to go towards chord melody style afterwards rather than improv, I understand about the copywrited material issue, Is something like 'The Way You Look Tonight' a standard that we could take the melody, work it into a basic chord melody piece and then have fun with substitutions and re harmonising?

That sounds good! Can you write out the chord progression from this tune and I will help you out!
Looking forward to hear your take!

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Nov 17 2012, 11:13 AM
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Hi! I just wanted to follow up and see how the track coming along?
Let me know!

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Wonders will never cease, I actually composed and recorded my solo.

I had to add an additional rhythm track with strummed chords to help make sense of the changes.

It's rather heavily based around the C#m Pentatonic shape with additional notes thrown in, and the phrasing is a little dull

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Alex Feather
Nov 23 2012, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Nov 20 2012, 08:19 PM) *
Wonders will never cease, I actually composed and recorded my solo.

I had to add an additional rhythm track with strummed chords to help make sense of the changes.

It's rather heavily based around the C#m Pentatonic shape with additional notes thrown in, and the phrasing is a little dull

Wow amazing phrasings! I love it!!!
Can you post the backing track and chord progression I can add my take and will base my next assignment on it!
What do you think?

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Nov 25 2012, 07:15 AM
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I'll get the backing uploaded tonight.

I'm not sure about great phrasing from me though, I thought there were moments of interest and potential surrounded by fluff and filler!!

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Alex Feather
Nov 25 2012, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Nov 25 2012, 06:15 AM) *
I'll get the backing uploaded tonight.

I'm not sure about great phrasing from me though, I thought there were moments of interest and potential surrounded by fluff and filler!!

I loved how melodic you played! You have been using very interesting resolutions and I could hear so much progress in your playing!! Very well done!!! wink.gif
When you will post the backing track I will be able to explain even more and will help you to get more ideas! smile.gif

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Nov 25 2012, 08:10 PM
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Here's the backing track Alex

I'm looking forward to hear you take and your approach

The chord progression is

A/A/G#7/G#7/C#m/C#m/D6b5/D6b5
A\A/Am\Am/G#m/G#m/C#m/C#m
A/A/Am/Am/Gsus4/Gsus4/G#dim/G#dim
A/A/G#7/G#7/C#m/C#m7/C#7/C#7
A/A/Am/Am/E2/E2/E2/E2

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Alex Feather
Nov 26 2012, 06:24 AM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Nov 25 2012, 07:10 PM) *
Here's the backing track Alex

I'm looking forward to hear you take and your approach

The chord progression is

A/A/G#7/G#7/C#m/C#m/D6b5/D6b5
A\A/Am\Am/G#m/G#m/C#m/C#m
A/A/Am/Am/Gsus4/Gsus4/G#dim/G#dim
A/A/G#7/G#7/C#m/C#m7/C#7/C#7
A/A/Am/Am/E2/E2/E2/E2

Perfect!!! Give me a few hours to record it! smile.gif

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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Nov 25 2012, 07:10 PM) *
Here's the backing track Alex

I'm looking forward to hear you take and your approach

The chord progression is

A/A/G#7/G#7/C#m/C#m/D6b5/D6b5
A\A/Am\Am/G#m/G#m/C#m/C#m
A/A/Am/Am/Gsus4/Gsus4/G#dim/G#dim
A/A/G#7/G#7/C#m/C#m7/C#7/C#7
A/A/Am/Am/E2/E2/E2/E2

So that's what I cam up with! smile.gif
Would be awesome if you can continue the solo! I used a lot of chord tones and was playing over the changes!
Have you heard about chord tones?
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Dec 18 2012, 06:08 PM
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Alex

One of your video chats on Joe Pass arpeggios and also this mentoring thread, put an idea in my mind for a theory based project.

Seeing as I have Neck Diagrams, I thought I'd put it into good use and create a Triads document.

I think I need your input as I want it too be a useful tool for me and everyone here at GMC

I'm going to choose a key (probably C major)

Show the triads (and inversions) on string sets 123, 234, 345, 456

Then add superimposed triads to them to make extended chords

I guess the next step would adding non diatonic triads to get other extended chords b5 etc

To make it more useful, rather than just a reference document to included useful exercises to help, get it under the fingers, on the fretboard and from the mind to the ear.

Would you be interested in helping me with this, we could use it as the basis of my mentoring, I'm guessing I'll learn a lot compiling it.

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Alex Feather
Dec 19 2012, 06:50 AM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Dec 18 2012, 05:08 PM) *
Alex

One of your video chats on Joe Pass arpeggios and also this mentoring thread, put an idea in my mind for a theory based project.

Seeing as I have Neck Diagrams, I thought I'd put it into good use and create a Triads document.

I think I need your input as I want it too be a useful tool for me and everyone here at GMC

I'm going to choose a key (probably C major)

Show the triads (and inversions) on string sets 123, 234, 345, 456

Then add superimposed triads to them to make extended chords

I guess the next step would adding non diatonic triads to get other extended chords b5 etc

To make it more useful, rather than just a reference document to included useful exercises to help, get it under the fingers, on the fretboard and from the mind to the ear.

Would you be interested in helping me with this, we could use it as the basis of my mentoring, I'm guessing I'll learn a lot compiling it.

I would love to help you out! smile.gif
The only thing is we will have to finish everything before the end of December because my mentoring program will be closed from January 1st

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PosterBoy
Dec 19 2012, 09:37 AM
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Ah ok well if I outline each section rather than go into detail, and also get you to make sure I get the chord names and intervals. I can do the rest.

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Dec 19 2012, 01:11 PM
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I started mapping out the triad's as pairs and naming them but got stuck after the basic ones were done, so I found this

Can you check it's correct

For the Key of C

I
C E G + D F A = D F A C E G = ii-m11 = Dm11
C E G + E G B = C E G B = I-M7 = CM7
C E G + F A C = F A C E G = IV-M9 = FM9
C E G + G B D = C E G B D = I-M9 = CM9
C E G + A C E = A C E G = vi-m7 = Am7
C E G + B D F = C D E F G B = I-M11 = CM11

ii

D F A + E G B = E G B D F A = iii-m11 = Em11
D F A + F A C = D F A C = ii-m7 = Dm7
D F A + G B D = G B D F A = V-9 = G9
D F A + A C E = D F A C E = ii-m9 = Dm9
D F A + B D F = B D F A = vii-m7/b5 = Bm7/b5
D F A + C E G = D F A C E G = ii-m11 = Dm11

iii

E G B + F A C = F A C E G B = IV-M11 = FM11
E G B + G B D = E G B D = iii-m7 = Em7
E G B + A C E = A C E G B = vi-m9 = Am9
E G B + B D F = E G B D F = iii-m9 = Em9
E G B + C E G = C E G B = I-M7 = CM7
E G B + D F A = E G B D F A = iii-m11 = Em11

IV

F A C + G B D = G B D F A C = V-11 = G11
F A C + A C E = F A C E = IV-M7 = FM7
F A C + B D F = B D F A C = vii-m9/b5 = Bm9/b5
F A C + C E G = F A C E G = IV-M9 = FM9
F A C + D F A = D F A C = ii-m7 = Dm7
F A C + E G B = F A C E G B = IV-M11 = FM11 V
G B D + A C E = A C E G B D = vi-m11 = Am11
G B D + B D F = G B D F = V-7 = G7
G B D + C E G = C E G B D = I-M9 = CM9
G B D + D F A = G B D F A = V-9 = G9
G B D + E G B = E G B D = iii-m7 = Em7
G B D + F A C = G B D F A C = V-11 = G11

vi

A C E + B D F = B D F A C E = vii-m11/b5 = Bm11/b5
A C E + C E G = A C E G = vi-m7 = Am7
A C E + D F A = D F A C E = ii-m9 = Dm9
A C E + E G B = A C E G B = vi-m9 = Am9
A C E + F A C = F A C E = IV-M7 = FM7
A C E + G B D = A C E G B D = vi-m11 = Am11

vii

B D F + C E G = C D E F G B = I-M11 = CM11
B D F + D F A = B D F A = vii-m7/b5 = Bm7/b5
B D F + E G B = E G B D F = iii-m9 = Em9
B D F + F A C = B D F A C = vii-m9/b5 = Bm9/b5
B D F + G B D = G B D F = V-7 = G7
B D F + A C E = B D F A C E = vii-m11/b5 = Bm11/b5


Basic Outline

Show the 7 triads in note name

Show the 3 shapes for the major triad, the minor triad and Dim triad for string set 654

Use G major key (it's got nice locations on the fretboard)

Show triads on fretboard for each inversion

Give exercise for G major inversions with metronome
Give exercise for D minor inversions with metronome
Give exercise for F#dim inversions with metronome

Give triad exercises up and down diatonic scale.

Do the same for 543, 432, 321 string sets

Give chord progression exercises to practice linking inversions across string sets and to make something musical

Superimposing Triads

Explanation and showing the examples

Show examples on fretboard of triads linked together on same string set
Show examples on fretboard of triads linked together on adjacent string sets

Exercises for using these over chord progressions



If you can give any help with effective exercises to drill and for good progressions to practice the triads and arpeggios over, I'd appreciate it.

If you think I've missed anything, or the order I've put things in isn't the most logical for learning also let me know, I'd appreciate the feedback


This might take me a while, especially as I'll be using it as a learning tool and practice agenda whilst compiling it!

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Alex Feather
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Dec 19 2012, 12:11 PM) *
I started mapping out the triad's as pairs and naming them but got stuck after the basic ones were done, so I found this

Can you check it's correct

For the Key of C

I
C E G + D F A = D F A C E G = ii-m11 = Dm11
C E G + E G B = C E G B = I-M7 = CM7
C E G + F A C = F A C E G = IV-M9 = FM9
C E G + G B D = C E G B D = I-M9 = CM9
C E G + A C E = A C E G = vi-m7 = Am7
C E G + B D F = C D E F G B = I-M11 = CM11

ii

D F A + E G B = E G B D F A = iii-m11 = Em11
D F A + F A C = D F A C = ii-m7 = Dm7
D F A + G B D = G B D F A = V-9 = G9
D F A + A C E = D F A C E = ii-m9 = Dm9
D F A + B D F = B D F A = vii-m7/b5 = Bm7/b5
D F A + C E G = D F A C E G = ii-m11 = Dm11

iii

E G B + F A C = F A C E G B = IV-M11 = FM11
E G B + G B D = E G B D = iii-m7 = Em7
E G B + A C E = A C E G B = vi-m9 = Am9
E G B + B D F = E G B D F = iii-m9 = Em9
E G B + C E G = C E G B = I-M7 = CM7
E G B + D F A = E G B D F A = iii-m11 = Em11

IV

F A C + G B D = G B D F A C = V-11 = G11
F A C + A C E = F A C E = IV-M7 = FM7
F A C + B D F = B D F A C = vii-m9/b5 = Bm9/b5
F A C + C E G = F A C E G = IV-M9 = FM9
F A C + D F A = D F A C = ii-m7 = Dm7
F A C + E G B = F A C E G B = IV-M11 = FM11 V
G B D + A C E = A C E G B D = vi-m11 = Am11
G B D + B D F = G B D F = V-7 = G7
G B D + C E G = C E G B D = I-M9 = CM9
G B D + D F A = G B D F A = V-9 = G9
G B D + E G B = E G B D = iii-m7 = Em7
G B D + F A C = G B D F A C = V-11 = G11

vi

A C E + B D F = B D F A C E = vii-m11/b5 = Bm11/b5
A C E + C E G = A C E G = vi-m7 = Am7
A C E + D F A = D F A C E = ii-m9 = Dm9
A C E + E G B = A C E G B = vi-m9 = Am9
A C E + F A C = F A C E = IV-M7 = FM7
A C E + G B D = A C E G B D = vi-m11 = Am11

vii

B D F + C E G = C D E F G B = I-M11 = CM11
B D F + D F A = B D F A = vii-m7/b5 = Bm7/b5
B D F + E G B = E G B D F = iii-m9 = Em9
B D F + F A C = B D F A C = vii-m9/b5 = Bm9/b5
B D F + G B D = G B D F = V-7 = G7
B D F + A C E = B D F A C E = vii-m11/b5 = Bm11/b5


Basic Outline

Show the 7 triads in note name

Show the 3 shapes for the major triad, the minor triad and Dim triad for string set 654

Use G major key (it's got nice locations on the fretboard)

Show triads on fretboard for each inversion

Give exercise for G major inversions with metronome
Give exercise for D minor inversions with metronome
Give exercise for F#dim inversions with metronome

Give triad exercises up and down diatonic scale.

Do the same for 543, 432, 321 string sets

Give chord progression exercises to practice linking inversions across string sets and to make something musical

Superimposing Triads

Explanation and showing the examples

Show examples on fretboard of triads linked together on same string set
Show examples on fretboard of triads linked together on adjacent string sets

Exercises for using these over chord progressions



If you can give any help with effective exercises to drill and for good progressions to practice the triads and arpeggios over, I'd appreciate it.

If you think I've missed anything, or the order I've put things in isn't the most logical for learning also let me know, I'd appreciate the feedback


This might take me a while, especially as I'll be using it as a learning tool and practice agenda whilst compiling it!

Oh wow it is a lot of questions smile.gif
Give me a few days and I will prepare it for you! Probably after Christmas

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