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Posted by: Davidian Aug 18 2007, 04:31 AM

Hi GMC!

This is my second topic on the Gear-forum, and yes, and want to ask a second question.
I worked in the holidays, and I'll have earned ~1000€ (little more, but I try to save some)
(For the people in the USA: 1,000 Euro = 1,341.65 US Dollar)

And with that money, I'd like to buy a new guitar. But my question is: what would be an excellent choice for that amount of money?

Some more information: I very much like Ibanez (especially the Iceman!) and ESP (other brands are welcome too), and I like to play Metal, Rock, Punk and clean stuff every now and then.
What do you guys suggest?


Thanks in advance!

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 18 2007, 04:37 AM

I'll make this suggestion just to get it out of the way smile.gif

Ibanez Prestige - for instance the RG2550e. Great for shred, amazing tremelo, hot pickups.

Posted by: stratman33 Aug 18 2007, 04:38 AM

I'd go for an ibanez rg prestige...a few hundred bucks under your price range, to.but they play like a thousand dollar guitar..the tremelo system is great, with the Edge Pro bridge.low action on the strings on basically all of them, and they're perfect for your music.

Ill post an example.....


http://www.ibanez.com/eg/guitar.aspx?m=RG2550E

Posted by: Davidian Aug 18 2007, 04:42 AM

This a really nice guitar! biggrin.gif
Might consider that.

More tips are welcome!

Posted by: Hardtail Aug 18 2007, 11:44 AM

Really there are several choices in this price range. Do you perform? IF you perform do you mostly play Rhythm or Lead? How much versatility on the fly do you need? Trem or fixed bridge? Heavy or light? Flashy or vintage looking? Who do you want to sound like? etc...

For me I REALLY like Ibanez guitars but I will probably never buy one... because they are not the best choice for my play style and personal sound... Fenders are. For others it's Jacksons, or Gibsons, etc...

In that price range most brand guitars will be excellently built so I wouldn't worry too much about brand just what sound your looking for... and the only way to really know is to take an afternoon or a whole day down at your local guitar shop and play as many as you can. For most of us we eventually picked up that one guitar and knew within minutes it was the one. Good Luck!

Hardtail

Posted by: Smikey2006 Aug 18 2007, 12:15 PM

My recommendation has to go to Schecter, they are my number 1, great for clean, awsome for metal. and Gorgious looking, read my gear review on my Exotic Star, Also its just about that price range, i don't care for ibanez even tho thats what everyone will say, sure they are good guitars, but they are soo mainstream now its a pitty to see everyone with them. Just my 2 cents smile.gif. If you wanna go really different try a 7 strings, they are great and you can get sum great 1's for that price!

Posted by: swingline Aug 18 2007, 12:23 PM

I personally prefer Deans. I picked one up and it was like magic. You see you have multiple opinions so it is impossible to choose. Go to a Guitar Center (Or a similar store) and spend 3-5 hours trying out guitars. Find a nice amp (Or one that is similar to the one you own) and test many guitars. Try to use at least 2 to 3 different guitars from each company before counting it out. Guitars are highly personal so you have to make the call.

Posted by: tonymiro Aug 18 2007, 06:05 PM

QUOTE (Hardtail @ Aug 18 2007, 04:44 AM) *
Really there are several choices in this price range. Do you perform? IF you perform do you mostly play Rhythm or Lead? How much versatility on the fly do you need? Trem or fixed bridge? Heavy or light? Flashy or vintage looking? Who do you want to sound like? etc...

For me I REALLY like Ibanez guitars but I will probably never buy one... because they are not the best choice for my play style and personal sound... Fenders are. For others it's Jacksons, or Gibsons, etc...

In that price range most brand guitars will be excellently built so I wouldn't worry too much about brand just what sound your looking for... and the only way to really know is to take an afternoon or a whole day down at your local guitar shop and play as many as you can. For most of us we eventually picked up that one guitar and knew within minutes it was the one. Good Luck!

Hardtail


+1.
Also don't just look at the big names or limit looking to ones in your price range. Try out different brands including ones you might not have heard of like Tom Anderson, Caparison, Suhr, Vintage, Musicman whatever: it's your choice what you play and you don't have to play the same as everyone else. The important bit is to buy the guitar that you want. Also try guitars that are 1/2 your budget and also double it - get an idea of what is value for money and why they cost different amounts. Do you really need to spend 1000euros or would you be happy with one at 500? Or is it worth your while saving a bit more and getting one at 1200euros, 2000euros, whatever?


Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: muris Aug 18 2007, 08:01 PM

Tony has right,as always. smile.gif

You should pursuit guitar by your needs,not that much by price.
Of course,having bigger amount of money shall make all a lot easier. wink.gif

Posted by: Hardtail Aug 19 2007, 01:34 PM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Aug 18 2007, 01:05 PM) *
+1.
Also don't just look at the big names or limit looking to ones in your price range. Try out different brands including ones you might not have heard of like Tom Anderson, Caparison, Suhr, Vintage, Musicman whatever: it's your choice what you play and you don't have to play the same as everyone else. The important bit is to buy the guitar that you want. Also try guitars that are 1/2 your budget and also double it - get an idea of what is value for money and why they cost different amounts. Do you really need to spend 1000euros or would you be happy with one at 500? Or is it worth your while saving a bit more and getting one at 1200euros, 2000euros, whatever?
Cheers,
Tony



+1

And what Muris said about "needs" versus "price".

Hardtail

Posted by: Davidian Aug 19 2007, 10:58 PM

Thanks guys!
This gives me a total different view on it!
I'll try to test some guitars next week ^^

I'll let you know how it was.

Posted by: Pavel Aug 20 2007, 01:53 AM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Aug 18 2007, 05:37 AM) *
I'll make this suggestion just to get it out of the way smile.gif

Ibanez Prestige - for instance the RG2550e. Great for shred, amazing tremelo, hot pickups.



I think two of us should stay out of these "new guitar" topics as our suggestion is as obvious as an answer to a question: "What should i do if i am hungry?" laugh.gif

Of course it's an Ibanez i will suggest biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 20 2007, 02:05 AM

QUOTE (Pavel @ Aug 19 2007, 08:53 PM) *
I think two of us should stay out of these "new guitar" topics as our suggestion is as obvious as an answer to a question: "What should i do if i am hungry?" laugh.gif

Of course it's an Ibanez i will suggest biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


laugh.gif laugh.gif Yes, you are right - we are getting too predictable smile.gif

Posted by: rokchik Aug 20 2007, 02:45 AM

QUOTE (Davidian @ Aug 18 2007, 12:31 AM) *
Hi GMC!

This is my second topic on the Gear-forum, and yes, and want to ask a second question.
I worked in the holidays, and I'll have earned ~1000€ (little more, but I try to save some)
(For the people in the USA: 1,000 Euro = 1,341.65 US Dollar)

And with that money, I'd like to buy a new guitar. But my question is: what would be an excellent choice for that amount of money?

Some more information: I very much like Ibanez (especially the Iceman!) and ESP (other brands are welcome too), and I like to play Metal, Rock, Punk and clean stuff every now and then.
What do you guys suggest?
Thanks in advance!


My only suggestion would be to go to your local guitar shop and just a play a few differnt models until you find the one that suits you.

Little story:

I had my heart set on a Fender Strat which I hoped to buy while I was away on vacation. When I got to the shop that was holding one for me I just played around with it...loved it was gonna buy it but figured I'd try out some others since I was there. Next thing you know I have an Ibanez in my hand and love it 10 time more than the Fender. It was better suited for me with the slimmer neck profile and the action was just perfect. The salesman was an idiot and now I have no new guitar...and long for an Ibanez. I'm officially part of the dark side...thanks Andrew and Pavel.

Even though I had my mind made up it changed pretty quick after playing a few models. Just go and see what you like. It may cost more but it may cost less but you'll at least have what ya want.

Posted by: fkalich Aug 20 2007, 03:06 AM

QUOTE (rokchik @ Aug 19 2007, 08:45 PM) *
My only suggestion would be to go to your local guitar shop and just a play a few differnt models until you find the one that suits you.

Little story:

I had my heart set on a Fender Strat which I hoped to buy while I was away on vacation. When I got to the shop that was holding one for me I just played around with it...loved it was gonna buy it but figured I'd try out some others since I was there. Next thing you know I have an Ibanez in my hand and love it 10 time more than the Fender. It was better suited for me with the slimmer neck profile and the action was just perfect. The salesman was an idiot and now I have no new guitar...and long for an Ibanez. I'm officially part of the dark side...thanks Andrew and Pavel.

Even though I had my mind made up it changed pretty quick after playing a few models. Just go and see what you like. It may cost more but it may cost less but you'll at least have what ya want.


I agree, Ibanez guitars are a great choice for a woman.

Posted by: Pavel Aug 20 2007, 03:38 AM

QUOTE (rokchik @ Aug 20 2007, 03:45 AM) *
I'm officially part of the dark side...thanks Andrew and Pavel.


Welcome to the Dark Side! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 20 2007, 04:00 AM

QUOTE (Pavel @ Aug 19 2007, 10:38 PM) *
Welcome to the Dark Side! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



Mwwwaaahhhahahahahaha! (Evil laugh in case you were wondering!)

Posted by: chast Aug 20 2007, 05:02 AM

You could look for some Framus guitars, but I dont know if they you have these in Belgium, because they are built in Germany and I dont know if they send it to other countries.

Here you can watch some videos for Framus-Guitars:
http://www.musik-schmidt.de/osc-schmidt/catalog/videos.php?cPath=0

Posted by: Hardtail Aug 20 2007, 06:13 AM

QUOTE (fkalich @ Aug 19 2007, 10:06 PM) *
I agree, Ibanez guitars are a great choice for a woman.

I'm surprised this went unnoticed laugh.gif

Does the thinner neck help with small hands or something? tongue.gif

J/K

Hardtail

Posted by: rokchik Aug 20 2007, 10:22 AM

QUOTE (Hardtail @ Aug 20 2007, 02:13 AM) *
I'm surprised this went unnoticed laugh.gif

Does the thinner neck help with small hands or something? tongue.gif

J/K

Hardtail


That's what I found Hardtail. The Strat was amazing...don't get me wrong. The tone of it was just beautiful. I will have one eventually but the particular one I played (American Strat) compared to the Ibanez...I believe the Ibanez was a RG42FX...just didn't feel right. With the Ibanez I was running through the fret board with ease. Scales up and down and some different riffs. It was like pressing buttons so smooth. The neck was a thinner profile than the Fender so I felt like I had better control. With the Fender I felt like I was stretching more and my hand got tired quicker. Ibanez would have been so far down on my list of guitar to get before this experience. I'm still in the market for a new guitar but want to research Ibanez more before deciding on a model. Totally changed my opinion of Ibanez.

Posted by: Hardtail Aug 20 2007, 11:06 PM

QUOTE (rokchik @ Aug 20 2007, 05:22 AM) *
That's what I found Hardtail. The Strat was amazing...don't get me wrong. The tone of it was just beautiful. I will have one eventually but the particular one I played (American Strat) compared to the Ibanez...I believe the Ibanez was a RG42FX...just didn't feel right. With the Ibanez I was running through the fret board with ease. Scales up and down and some different riffs. It was like pressing buttons so smooth. The neck was a thinner profile than the Fender so I felt like I had better control. With the Fender I felt like I was stretching more and my hand got tired quicker. Ibanez would have been so far down on my list of guitar to get before this experience. I'm still in the market for a new guitar but want to research Ibanez more before deciding on a model. Totally changed my opinion of Ibanez.



Cool! I'm glad the Ibanez worked out for you. I have a lot of respect for Ibanez but the funny thing is... what everyone really loves about them (the thin necks) is actually the one thing that bothers me about them. When I play an ibanez I feel like the neck is too thin and my hand cramps up on me after an hour or so. I did however like using my thumb on the E string much more with the ibanez but all-in-all I like the way my Fender plays better.

Hardtail

Posted by: rokchik Aug 21 2007, 07:53 AM

QUOTE (Hardtail @ Aug 20 2007, 07:06 PM) *
Cool! I'm glad the Ibanez worked out for you. I have a lot of respect for Ibanez but the funny thing is... what everyone really loves about them (the thin necks) is actually the one thing that bothers me about them. When I play an ibanez I feel like the neck is too thin and my hand cramps up on me after an hour or so. I did however like using my thumb on the E string much more with the ibanez but all-in-all I like the way my Fender plays better.

Hardtail


Yeah I had never really looked at Ibanez as an option before as I felt they were for shredders...and I'm no shedder smile.gif But I was pleasantly surprised I must say. I have a Gibson LP right now with the 60's neck and I LOVE it but for some techniques such as legato for example I find it hard to play. But she's a dream other wise.
I was really just looking for a thinner profile neck for practice and someone had told me Fender necks were a bit slimmer. The one I played was actually about the same, maybe the tiniest bit slimmer which is why I tried some other models. But she sounded beautiful and felt pretty good. Sound wise the Ibanez is OK, not really what I'd normally go for but I do like it. So we'll see what happens I guess. I will add a Fender to my collection eventually as the tone and feel of them is great....just not what I'm looking for right now.

Posted by: Davidian Aug 22 2007, 05:49 AM

Baught (or bought?) my new guitar today...
It's an Ibanez!
And the model number is VBT700.
It's a very nice axe!

Posted by: Hardtail Aug 22 2007, 06:04 AM

QUOTE (Davidian @ Aug 22 2007, 12:49 AM) *
Baught (or bought?) my new guitar today...
It's an Ibanez!
And the model number is VBT700.
It's a very nice axe!



Congrats! biggrin.gif

Hardtail

Posted by: rokchik Aug 22 2007, 06:17 AM

QUOTE (Davidian @ Aug 22 2007, 01:49 AM) *
Baught (or bought?) my new guitar today...
It's an Ibanez!
And the model number is VBT700.
It's a very nice axe!


Congrats!

You should post a pic and show her off.

Posted by: Davidian Aug 23 2007, 02:14 AM

I'll take some pics now and I'll put 'em here later in the evening ^^

Posted by: RobM Aug 23 2007, 06:36 AM

QUOTE (swingline @ Aug 18 2007, 07:23 AM) *
I personally prefer Deans. I picked one up and it was like magic. You see you have multiple opinions so it is impossible to choose. Go to a Guitar Center (Or a similar store) and spend 3-5 hours trying out guitars. Find a nice amp (Or one that is similar to the one you own) and test many guitars. Try to use at least 2 to 3 different guitars from each company before counting it out. Guitars are highly personal so you have to make the call.


Glad you got what you wanted, I hope you have it for a long time and it brings great sound whever you play it.

Posted by: Davidian Aug 28 2007, 04:54 AM

In his case...


The back...


The front...


That is one kick-ass guitar!
I really like it!

Pavel and Andrew are right: Ibanez rules!

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 28 2007, 05:02 AM

QUOTE (Davidian @ Aug 27 2007, 11:54 PM) *
Pavel and Andrew are right: Ibanez rules!


laugh.gif laugh.gif

Its a little sad to see your old axe (RG350 looks like) just shoved around the corner - you have to promise to play her sometimes or she will get lonely smile.gif

Posted by: ZakkWylde Aug 28 2007, 05:05 AM

Nice buy, how much did you pay for this one?

Posted by: shredmandan Aug 28 2007, 05:32 AM

It is a nice V smile.gif
hope it works out for you.
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Posted by: Davidian Aug 28 2007, 05:35 AM

@ Andrew: It's a Washburn X-10 Starter package. But if she's restrung, I promise I'll play her wink.gif I won't let her rot in the corner! She is standing there, because that's the only place in my room I can put her. (Note to self: Tidy up your room.) But I'm looking to buy something so I can display it on the wall.

@ZakkWylde: Thanks! I payed 735€.

Posted by: rokchik Aug 28 2007, 08:22 AM

Very Nice man! I can't wait until I get mine...I've decided on the RG1570. Now to get the best price. Tha saga continues!!!

Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Aug 28 2007, 08:39 AM

QUOTE (rokchik @ Aug 28 2007, 03:22 AM) *
Very Nice man! I can't wait until I get mine...I've decided on the RG1570. Now to get the best price. Tha saga continues!!!


Ahh, good pick smile.gif

Posted by: rokchik Aug 28 2007, 08:43 AM

QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Aug 28 2007, 04:39 AM) *
Ahh, good pick smile.gif


Thanks Andrew. I like it alot actually....I'm getting the mirage blue. Just waiting on some price quotes for shipping and stuff so hopefully soon. Until then I'm inpatiently waiting. biggrin.gif

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