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Posted by: Iluha Jun 21 2008, 09:02 AM

I know that Muris has already done this in some of his lessons, where he had Andrew read the text, but I just saw this on another instructional music site, that they don't really write anything in their lessons except for the tabs/notation and instead they just talk.

To me, it's much more affective, as text bores me, and I have trouble remembering it, so more ofen than not I just ignore it on the lessons here and try figuring things out on my own, but hearing someone talk on the other hand really grabs my attention and makes me understand much better!

So do you guys think you could please include more talking in the videos? even just reading out the text you'r writing will be helpful!

Posted by: superize Jun 21 2008, 09:09 AM

Yeah i would like more talking aswell but i would also like to have text as it s sometimes hard to hear what they say

Posted by: DeepRoots Jun 21 2008, 09:24 AM

I agree. Having a video with tabs and text looks like: well just that- a video with a text description. Which is good, but not as good as the video with spoken descriptions.

I think the spoken part really makes it an easier approach to learning and makes the video feel more like you're taking a guitar lesson in "the real world".
The spoken video at the start is always prety cool, David always does a good job on those- but i think it's a shame to end it in that first video instead of making one "main video" and then the 7 or 8 other videos being "live" videos where the instructor would explain the lick, any theory behind it and then play it through slow and fast.

Great examples of this are already on the site such as http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/warming-up-with-marcus-siepen/ and ofcourse Kris's 101 lessons. Also Muris's collaboration with Andrew in his videos makes for a good "experience".

Posted by: Zizi Top Jun 21 2008, 09:27 AM

more talking maybe cool, but reading the text is also really important imo
because you can study it easier ; you can think about what is written , on the other hand, if it's only talking, you'll have to write everything that seems important for you and then study them ....
Actually what I like is when you can read some writing that explains how did you construct the solo .. and why did you used that scale at that specific moment and stuff like that ... I think that it's really important to understand who everything goes smile.gif

and by the way, when it comes to muris lessons and andrews talking, It's really cool, but sometimes you just want to see the playing, so you have to wait all the talking to see it ... so I don't know, but it's cool to have the talking, but I prefer them with a first talking video (video one) and maybe quick talking in all others

Posted by: Iluha Jun 21 2008, 09:30 AM

QUOTE (Zizi Top @ Jun 21 2008, 10:27 AM) *
more talking maybe cool, but reading the text is also really important imo
because you can study it easier ; you can think about what is written , on the other hand, if it's only talking, you'll have to write everything that seems important for you and then study them ....
Actually what I like is when you can read some writing that explains how did you construct the solo .. and why did you used that scale at that specific moment and stuff like that ... I think that it's really important to understand who everything goes smile.gif


Well I wasn't suggesting for it to be only talking, I was suggesting that talking will be alongside the writing.

Posted by: Jerry Arcidiacono Jun 21 2008, 09:32 AM

Some good inputs here. I hope my next lessons will solve - maybe a little - this problem smile.gif

Posted by: Zizi Top Jun 21 2008, 09:43 AM

QUOTE (Iluha @ Jun 21 2008, 10:30 AM) *
Well I wasn't suggesting for it to be only talking, I was suggesting that talking will be alongside the writing.

yes that might be a good idea then smile.gif

Posted by: superize Jun 21 2008, 10:53 AM

I would really like it to be more expaining in the lessons because now it is just like here is a lick you play it like this. I would really like it to be more like, here is a lick and in this lick we uses techniuques like Legato and Legato means that you etc etc something more like this...... I know Pavel did this in his lessons on Legato and i helped alot with the technuiqe.

This is just my opinion

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jun 21 2008, 10:59 AM

Good suggestions. Yes some lessons would truly benefit from spoken videos, but sometimes it is hard to do those specially if you're not a native english speaker. But nevertheless, I am planning to do more and more spoken video lessons in the future smile.gif

Posted by: Iluha Jun 21 2008, 10:59 AM

QUOTE (superize @ Jun 21 2008, 11:53 AM) *
I would really like it to be more expaining in the lessons because now it is just like here is a lick you play it like this. I would really like it to be more like, here is a lick and in this lick we uses techniuques like Legato and Legato means that you etc etc something more like this...... I know Pavel did this in his lessons on Legato and i helped alot with the technuiqe.

This is just my opinion


100% agree!

Posted by: BenB Jun 21 2008, 09:57 PM

Spoken videos are great but I'd like to emphazise as well that the text is very important.
Personally, written stuff stick inside my head much easier, so if anything will only be said in the video, that could be a problem for me...


Posted by: SEANCD2005 Jun 21 2008, 10:09 PM

i think more spoken videos would be great to go along with the text.

Posted by: Iluha Jun 22 2008, 07:53 AM

QUOTE (BenB @ Jun 21 2008, 10:57 PM) *
Spoken videos are great but I'd like to emphazise as well that the text is very important.
Personally, written stuff stick inside my head much easier, so if anything will only be said in the video, that could be a problem for me...

Like i said, my intention is that speaking will be alongside writing, because like you said some people understand more from reading while others benefit more from listening.

Posted by: Gus Jun 23 2008, 12:22 AM

101 lessons are also my favorite, and the more video explanations, I usually like it more.
As zizi top said, I think text is also important. My memory, for instance, is really good for visual things but not so good for when I hear something. So, I am more likely to remember the message of the video if read it. But I am more likely to understand it first if I see explanation of the video, because there is intonation and gesture involved.

I understand the barrier of the language (for non native speakers), but I really would like to see more talking in the videos as well (maybe like Muris/Andrew did, if language is a problem).
I know it is a general guideline to add spoken explanation only to the first video (as I can see Walliman does) but what I really would like to see is spoken explanation in all videos nailing down the details of the hard parts

Posted by: FrankW Jun 23 2008, 12:48 AM

I'm glad that Muris can communicate in English. It was cool to listen to him in his introductory video. But, if he couldn't speak English, I could overdub a translation for him for any of his Super Advanced videos.

My translation would go something like this...' Hi. I'm Muris, and I will demonstrate this complex passage for you which incorporates monstrous speed and articulation, with awesome tone and fluidity. I will also blaze through this string skipping/finger tapping bonanza with the greatest of ease, while intoducing you to ridiculously melodic note selection including a clinic in precise timing at the speed of light! Good day.'

In other words, Muris is THE MAN!

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