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GMC Forum _ PRACTICE ROOM _ Kris & Marcus Collab - Gmc Blog!
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 17 2007, 01:53 AM
Hey there,
Today I have the honour to present a little feature we have been working on behind the scenes!
As our forum gets more and more active (thanks to all you lovely people participating in it 
) - I figured we need a new place for editorial news. This way we will be able to enlighten things that sort of "gets lost in the buzz".
We will kick the blog off by presenting...well, check it out by yourself:
>>http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/blog/
You can expect some cool updates very soon - as we have hinted elsewhere!
Also - the idea is to have more people blogging about interesting things in the future!
Kris
Note about commenting in the blog: The blog isn't yet synchronised with the usernames of the forum - which is why your comments won't appear right away. This is a temporarily solution to avoid porn and poker spam!
Posted by: botoxfox Oct 17 2007, 01:57 AM
Sounds great! 
Posted by: Iluha Oct 17 2007, 02:01 AM
That's a great idea, I think maybe also make blogs for gmc'ers?
Posted by: jeff Oct 17 2007, 02:03 AM
Today I have the honour to present a little feature we have been working on behind the scenes!
As our forum gets more and more active (thanks to all you lovely people participating in it
) - I figured we need a new place for editorial news. This way we will be able to enlighten things that sort of "gets lost in the buzz".The idea is to have more people blogging about interesting things in the future!
We will kick the blog off by presenting...well, check it out by yourself:
>>http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/blog/
You can expect some cool updates very soon - as we have hinted elsewhere!
Kris
Note about commenting in the blog: The blog isn't yet synchronised with the usernames of the forum - which is why your comments won't appear right away. This is a temporarily solution to avoid porn and poker spam!
Posted by: MickeM Oct 17 2007, 02:03 AM
Great Kris!
*cough*andrewsampbuildingjourney*cough cough*
Posted by: Robin Oct 17 2007, 02:04 AM
Excellent!
Posted by: MickeM Oct 17 2007, 02:04 AM
Oh that sucks! I was so looking forward to it
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 17 2007, 02:09 AM
Well I haven't it tried it - but I suspect that if you hint in your comment that you are from gmc you might get your spam through (provided we like what we see!
)
Posted by: Gen Oct 17 2007, 02:17 AM
Today I have the honour to present a little feature we have been working on behind the scenes!
As our forum gets more and more active (thanks to all you lovely people participating in it
) - I figured we need a new place for editorial news. This way we will be able to enlighten things that sort of "gets lost in the buzz".The idea is to have more people blogging about interesting things in the future!
We will kick the blog off by presenting...well, check it out by yourself:
>>http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/blog/
You can expect some cool updates very soon - as we have hinted elsewhere!
Kris
Note about commenting in the blog: The blog isn't yet synchronised with the usernames of the forum - which is why your comments won't appear right away. This is a temporarily solution to avoid porn and poker spam!
Posted by: jeff Oct 17 2007, 02:23 AM
)Attn: This is not spam! Really. I am from GMC! Let me in!
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 17 2007, 02:28 AM
No way we'd let that pass - your username is way to reminiscent of Black Jeff. Sorry!
edit - woo first comment. We let this one pass inspite of the name!
Posted by: jeff Oct 17 2007, 02:31 AM
edit - woo first comment. We let this one pass inspite of the name!
OK, well then I won't bother asking "please".
Posted by: Scott Gentzen Oct 17 2007, 04:33 AM
)I read this from work...I'll try to stay out of the comments then.
Posted by: FretDancer69 Oct 17 2007, 05:05 AM
Awesome Kris!
LMAO!!!
Posted by: jammer91 Oct 17 2007, 05:13 AM
Can we GMCers write blogs too later?
Cool way of expanding Kris.
Could you also make GMC profiles like UG (where we can post vids of us playing lessons, our own songs, post links to our top rated lessons and stuff)?
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 17 2007, 05:21 AM
Yes - in fact there will most likely be room for some gmc students in this specific blog.
It needs a little technical modding first though.What UG did is a large scale project - we definately want to add similar features but we aren't likely to see it within the next 6 months (we have got so many other cool stuff planned).
The idea with this blog is for it to be instructional - this should hopefully become obvious pretty soon!
Posted by: Juan M. Valero Oct 17 2007, 05:25 AM
Excellent news !!!! I'm waiting for your new compositions 
Posted by: Bondy Oct 17 2007, 05:43 AM
Cool kris
Posted by: Wallimann Oct 17 2007, 05:48 AM
Nice!!!!!
I love it!
Great vox Kris!!!
Posted by: The Uncreator Oct 17 2007, 08:08 AM
Thats one amazing song. seriously, sick ass riffs.
Reminds me somewhat of megadeth at parts.
Posted by: muris Oct 17 2007, 08:30 AM
Sound amazing guys,great!!!
Keep us updated on further work and give us album releasing day!!
P.S Riffs sound great,what did you use as preamp/amp?
Posted by: PlayAllDay Oct 17 2007, 08:47 AM
Blog is cool 
See me save you from the Lord
To crush you all by myself
And this is a fabulous lyric, great work! I haven't even listened to the song yet but I know I'm gonna like it
Off to listen now...
Posted by: lavendell Oct 17 2007, 02:56 PM
Keep us updated on further work and give us album releasing day!!
P.S Riffs sound great,what did you use as preamp/amp?
Thanks Muris!
I've just used a PODxt plugged straight into the computer/soundcard. And the PODxt preset is the same as we used in the "You Ready-collaboration".
-Marcus
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 17 2007, 04:05 PM
See me save you from the Lord
To crush you all by myself
And this is a fabulous lyric, great work! I haven't even listened to the song yet but I know I'm gonna like it
Off to listen now...
Thanks Playallday!
I am new to this so positive feedback is very encouraging!!
Posted by: steve25 Oct 17 2007, 04:46 PM
Cool looks pretty good and a good idea . Marcus i'm jealous, i'm using the exact same pod preset and the sound is nothing like yours tell us your tricks! Maybe just different pickups or something
Posted by: lavendell Oct 17 2007, 05:33 PM
. Marcus i'm jealous, i'm using the exact same pod preset and the sound is nothing like yours tell us your tricks! Maybe just different pickups or somethingSteve,
I have no tricks I'm afraid!!
The pickups I use is the cheapest ones that's avalible in sweden.
http://shop.gmf.se/product.htm?product_id=114453&search_page=
They cost about 60 USD (which is a very low price for a pickup, in sweden)
-Marcus
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 17 2007, 05:35 PM
. Marcus i'm jealous, i'm using the exact same pod preset and the sound is nothing like yours tell us your tricks! Maybe just different pickups or somethingSteve - have you tried using the preset and record a total of four identical takes on a riff? Do that and then "pan" two takes to the left and two to the right. This will call for monster heaviness!
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Oct 17 2007, 07:55 PM
I am new to this so positive feedback is very encouraging!! This is great Kris, its really interesting to see how your creative processes work - there is a lot to be learned here!
. Marcus i'm jealous, i'm using the exact same pod preset and the sound is nothing like yours tell us your tricks! Maybe just different pickups or somethingMarcus is too modest to say so, but its his playing - a lot of tone comes from cleanliness of playing, I would say at least 50% - Marcus or Kris could make any guitar sound awesome! So, concentrate on practice not buying gear ... (and ignore the fact that I can't take my own advice
)
Posted by: muris Oct 17 2007, 08:34 PM
I've just used a PODxt plugged straight into the computer/soundcard. And the PODxt preset is the same as we used in the "You Ready-collaboration".
-Marcus
Thanks Marcus
Keep it up,love it!!
Posted by: steve25 Oct 17 2007, 10:35 PM
Cool i'll give that one a try. I think i remember Marcus telling me something similar to this. I've only been playing to it with just my guitar no recording. Wouldn't it be not so good if you played live though
. also do you do the same with your solos?
Posted by: jeff Oct 17 2007, 11:03 PM
Wow! Never tried that before. Sounds interesting! I've always done one track for guitar paned center. Guess I need to experiment a little!
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 17 2007, 11:32 PM
Wow! Never tried that before. Sounds interesting! I've always done one track for guitar paned center. Guess I need to experiment a little! "Doubling" or dubbing is the number one key to great recording sound. That is why - as Andrew sais - focusing on learning to play perfect is the number one key to great recording sound.
You can get away with cheap amp simulators (I even think there are free software plugins) to create a monster sound - provided you can replicate a riff perfectly a couple of times.
Thanks Andrew - I really hope that our work will stimulate more people to do the same thing!
Just like your idea to start collabs is what got us started!
Posted by: jeff Oct 18 2007, 12:31 AM
"Doubling" or dubbing is the number one key to great recording sound. That is why - as Andrew sais - focusing on learning to play perfect is the number one key to great recording sound.
You can get away with cheap amp simulators (I even think there are free software plugins) to create a monster sound - provided you can replicate a riff perfectly a couple of times.
Andrew says a lot of things....
I'll never play perfect, just like I planned! So I think four tracks of the same mistake would sound good. 
Posted by: steve25 Oct 18 2007, 01:00 AM
Could you not just copy the recorded track 4 times and pan them differently?
Posted by: lavendell Oct 18 2007, 01:23 AM
It could work if you add different effects/eq to each and every one of the tracks, but in most cases it won't sound good.
The only thing you'll achieve is a louder output (higher volume).
-Marcus
Posted by: muris Oct 18 2007, 01:33 AM
The only thing you'll achieve is a louder output (higher volume).
-Marcus
Yeah,Marcus is right here.
You can add efx-s but it'll still be the same take.
And playing it twice has feel of "human's time walking",which is truly doubling.
Posted by: Andrew Cockburn Oct 18 2007, 01:34 AM
Yes, but its nowhere near as good. Its the minute differences that make the techniques sound more stereo and makes the sound bigger - but the differences have to be MINUTE or it just sounds sloppy. You will never play the same thing 100% identical all the time, but you need to be VERY close, maybe 99.9999%
Then you get the benefit of the bigger sound.You can so this to some extent artificially using delays and playing with EQ and phase, but its easier and better to play it twice identically. It works awesomely well for acoustic guitar strumming as well.
EDIT : Oops, beaten by Muris AND Marcus!
Posted by: steve25 Oct 19 2007, 03:47 AM
Ok i guess it makes sense, because really to the computer all your saying is i want the exact same thing twice whereas when you write a new track it's making a completely new one except to us of course it's intended to be the same. Yeah i just heard marcus's rhythm bit and realised it's the same as the collab preset. But i don't know if it's supposed to be like this but mines really muffled sounding, is that right? :S. I mean there's no way you could use that live i'm thinking it sounds aweful on its own. I had a little go at what you said about doubling today as just a little experiment and it did sound better but still not quite the same so i think i need to mess about with it a bit more
Posted by: Ayen Oct 19 2007, 04:13 AM
I can't stop listening to Historical Failure, it's awesome!
My neighbors can't stop hearing it either, but they don't have a choice .
Posted by: Iluha Oct 19 2007, 04:17 AM
That was great! you guys are melodic geniouses!.. BUT next time I wanna hear a solo by Marcus AND by Kris!
Posted by: lavendell Oct 19 2007, 04:21 AM
My neighbors can't stop hearing it either, but they don't have a choice
.Thank you, Ayen! I'm very happy to hear that! (and I think Kris is as well)
Posted by: FretDancer69 Oct 19 2007, 05:11 AM
I love the new riff Marcus came up with. Sound so awesome and aggressive. Good luck on the singing Kris
Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Oct 19 2007, 06:24 AM
My neighbors can't stop hearing it either, but they don't have a choice
.hehe thanks!!
This is a win win situation for everyone but your neighbors! However, sometimes it's really nice when some one else makes the choices for you - they will thank you!!
We have discussed that! I don't think it will be for the next tune though - I am happy if I can come up with any cool vocals for that one! :
Thanks I'll be needing it!
Posted by: The Uncreator Oct 19 2007, 10:43 AM
Man a song with Kris and Marcus with trade-offs would be nice!
Posted by: Unleash-The-Shred Oct 19 2007, 11:31 PM
This is going to be awesome! Both the blog and the Marcus/Kris collab, good luck with that guys!
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