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Posted by: jer Dec 24 2008, 02:29 PM
Who do you think is/was the most influential metal band?
And why?
What/who did they influence?
It needn't be a band from years ago. It could be a newer band too...
No right or wrong, just explain your reasoning so we may understand your point of view.
Posted by: opeth.db Dec 24 2008, 02:33 PM
For me it was Faith No More. Many metal bands credit them.
Taken from wikipedia.
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Faith No More has been credited for influencing many of the nu metal bands of the '90s[13] (such as Limp Bizkit, Korn, Linkin Park, Incubus, among others) primarily due to "Epic"'s popularity and its rap and rock crossover. Bands rising at their prime, such as Metallica, Anthrax[14] and Guns N' Roses,[15] have picked Faith No More as one of their favorite bands. They were voted #52 on VH1's "100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock".[16]
Faith No More also became underground and alternative superstars and have also been covered on many occasions. "From Out of Nowhere" was covered by Helloween on their covers album Metal Jukebox, by Apocalyptica on Inquisition Symphony and by Catamenia on VIII - The Time Unchained. Between the Buried and Me covered "Malpractice" on The Anatomy Of and Atreyu covered "Epic" in 2008, as a bonus track on Lead Sails Paper Anchor. Their song "Midlife Crisis" has been covered by the band Disturbed and was originally going to be put on a Faith No More tribute album, but it was eventually released on the internet instead. They also re-recorded the song as a B-side track to their new album Indestructible, but it has yet to see release. Ill Niño covered Zombie Eaters on their The Under Cover Sessions EP . "Mouth to Mouth" has been covered as well by the band Tub Ring on their Book of Water album.
In 2008 Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab released Angel Dust on CD and LP, remastered from the original master tapes.
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Patton rules.
Posted by: fatb0t Dec 24 2008, 03:10 PM
Sabbath. Metal as we know it today would not exist if they didn't exist.
Iommi's use of half tones in his riffs, mixed with aeolian/minor pentatonic solos - influenced every metal player directly or indirectly whether they know it or not.
Posted by: Tomás Santa Clara Dec 24 2008, 03:17 PM
Rammstein
the revolutionary Industrial Metal Band keeping the Massive Theatrical Fire works and power on the Music
Posted by: ZakkWylde Dec 24 2008, 03:31 PM
Venom and Slayer for opening the path to Black and Deathmetal, and also Pantera for bringing us the modern Metal sound
Posted by: Praetorian Dec 24 2008, 03:36 PM
Black Sabbath without a doubt!!
Posted by: opeth.db Dec 24 2008, 03:57 PM
Maybe too a point.. There are too many new styles out there.
Sabbath, to me, is the text book answer.
Posted by: tommyboy Dec 24 2008, 04:03 PM
Black Sabbath period! They were first true metal band.
tommyboy
Posted by: jer Dec 24 2008, 04:03 PM
I have a hard time accepting Sabbath in this role as well. Which is one reason I posed the question.
To me, Sabbath sparked the idea of metal. Then Judas Priest quickly grabbed it and RAN! Influencing bands throughout the upcoming years.
Posted by: fatb0t Dec 24 2008, 04:12 PM
Ok,
Carcass - Mixing death and grind core - amazing solos, brutal vocals, and AMAZING GUITAR HARMONYS! They really pushed the limit of what metal is and could be I think.
Morbid Angel - Most bands in 1987 were putting hair spray in - This is what they were doing:
Pretty crazy - just insanely dark and heavy.
Pantera, they added that southern groove to metal. Dimebag had the deepest love of guitar and it showed in all his music. Even when he was Diamond Darrell in Pantera's earliest incarnations the solos and rhythm work was out of this world!
Bloodbath - Personally I think this is the most bad ass Death metal out there - I know there is really 'crazier' death metal out there, and Bloodbath doesn't have that 'insanity' factor (which to me, makes death metal cheesy just like black metal with their lame KISS makeup haha)- but this s*** is just BAD A**.
Here's a bloodbath tune with Mickael Akerfeldt from Opeth on vocals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znQ7NK8YIF4&NR=1
EVILE - modern thrash that goes back to the roots and adds something new... I don't know about anyone but they influenced me 
Is that unorthodox enough for you Opeth? 
Edited for language, The Uncreator
Posted by: opeth.db Dec 24 2008, 04:16 PM
Yes. Thank you.
Posted by: jer Dec 24 2008, 04:28 PM
Posted by: TreyDeschamp Dec 24 2008, 05:11 PM
I'm going to say as an older band(and still today) megadeth
Dave Mustane getting kicked out of Metallica and then taking over the world with megadeth can show anyone hhow a little hard work and dedication can get you to go where you want to be.
I think in modern times bands like Bullet for my Valentine personally inspire the newer gen. like myself to go out there and pick up a guitar and play so music. 
Posted by: Guitarman700 Dec 24 2008, 06:07 PM
Dave Mustane getting kicked out of Metallica and then taking over the world with megadeth can show anyone hhow a little hard work and dedication can get you to go where you want to be.
I love megadeth, like my own child!
But, anyway, Shai hulud. (i know, their hardcore, not metal, but they have progressive metal elements) They pretty much created metalcore, and they get NO respect.
Posted by: Marc_Maiden Dec 24 2008, 07:08 PM
Edit: im changing my post because i dont like how it sounds...came out sounding worse than i meant it
to me, i could list my favorite bands (dreamtheater, symphony x, iron maiden)
and say they were the most influencial,
but that wouldnt be right
we all owe metal to sabbath and zeppelin (even though i dont care much for either...except for heaven and hell), and the others who came after influenced certain genres more than an entire genre....i say this because people now split up metal in to so many sub genres....its annoying to try to name them all...
Posted by: Trond Vold Dec 24 2008, 07:47 PM
Taken from wikipedia.
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Faith No More has been credited for influencing many of the nu metal bands of the '90s[13] (such as Limp Bizkit, Korn, Linkin Park, Incubus, among others) primarily due to "Epic"'s popularity and its rap and rock crossover. Bands rising at their prime, such as Metallica, Anthrax[14] and Guns N' Roses,[15] have picked Faith No More as one of their favorite bands. They were voted #52 on VH1's "100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock".[16]
Faith No More also became underground and alternative superstars and have also been covered on many occasions. "From Out of Nowhere" was covered by Helloween on their covers album Metal Jukebox, by Apocalyptica on Inquisition Symphony and by Catamenia on VIII - The Time Unchained. Between the Buried and Me covered "Malpractice" on The Anatomy Of and Atreyu covered "Epic" in 2008, as a bonus track on Lead Sails Paper Anchor. Their song "Midlife Crisis" has been covered by the band Disturbed and was originally going to be put on a Faith No More tribute album, but it was eventually released on the internet instead. They also re-recorded the song as a B-side track to their new album Indestructible, but it has yet to see release. Ill Niño covered Zombie Eaters on their The Under Cover Sessions EP . "Mouth to Mouth" has been covered as well by the band Tub Ring on their Book of Water album.
In 2008 Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab released Angel Dust on CD and LP, remastered from the original master tapes.
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Patton rules.
I would go with FNM aswell as one of the most influential recent bands, but i really dislike the fact they are credited with giving a start to so many bands i cant stand
Posted by: VinceG Dec 24 2008, 08:16 PM
i would go with Bathory on this one. There sound is the textbook sound of Black Metal back in there early years in the 80's. They also took the lyrics into a whole new level of blasphemous. No one in the 80's had a more evil sounding tone and ambience than Bathory. Then, Quorthon changed his beliefs, and turned Bathory into the very first Viking Metal band with the album Blood, Fire, Death in 88.
Thats pretty revolutionary right? 1 band influencing 2 different sounds thats still adapted all throughout the years.
Posted by: Tono Fyr Jan 2 2009, 10:13 AM
In terms of Influence, SHEER INFLUENCE, Black Sabbath. It's impossible to pick up a guitar today and not be in some way influenced by their music if you want to play any kind of distorted rock. I realize that they're the textbook answer, but it's because of the truth of it.
Posted by: audiopaal Jan 2 2009, 10:25 AM
Iron Maiden and Faith No More
Posted by: Emir Hot Jan 2 2009, 10:53 AM
It was about 15 and more years ago when I was going crazy for bands like Iron Maiden, Metallica, Sepultura, Slayer and similar. Great times.
Posted by: Marcus Siepen Jan 2 2009, 07:09 PM
For me Black Sabbath
Posted by: berko Jan 2 2009, 07:14 PM
You don't have to take me serious guys but the first ever metal band I've listened to was actually Dream Theater. Other than that: Iron Maiden & Megadeth
(Recently TOOL+Cynic)
But I also have to admit the Black Sabbath issue...
Posted by: Oxac Jan 5 2009, 05:27 PM
Of course Black Sabbath. They "invented" metal
But also the following bands (me thinks).
Iron Maiden, Metallica (I'm not a big fan but they will be leaving a huge footstep on the music industry when they leave), Stratovarius (practically created powermetal), Judas Priest, Manowar, Yngwie Malmsteen, Slayer and Pantera. (would trash metal exist without them?)
Posted by: Gabriel Leopardi Jan 5 2009, 06:16 PM
I would say Metallica and Iron Maiden. But I would like to add Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force... I could name too many bands, guitar players, keyboard players, singers & composers that has been influenced by Malmsteen and his solo band.
I think that Helloween (and maybe Blind Guardian & Heaven's Gate?... I don't know, we should ask Mr. Siepen) practically created power metal and then Stratovarius just combined it with Malmsteen influences...
Posted by: Fsgdjv Jan 5 2009, 09:14 PM
The Beatles.
They made the song Helter Skelter.
Posted by: The Uncreator Jan 5 2009, 09:33 PM
Touche.
And that is a pretty good point.
Posted by: enforcer Jan 5 2009, 09:41 PM
I love Maiden
Posted by: utak3r Jan 6 2009, 01:28 AM
I love Slayer, but it's not them who invented trash..... it is Metalllica who started this type of music.
Posted by: Guitarman700 Jan 6 2009, 03:05 AM
Sort of. ever heard of venom and motorhead? Metallica, with dave mustaine, on guitar, took it to the next level.
Posted by: skennington Jan 6 2009, 03:28 AM
Well...To get Technical...The tree of Metal...
Posted by: UncleSkillet Jan 6 2009, 03:38 AM
Very cool find Skenny
Posted by: g-forcelover Jan 6 2009, 04:00 AM
PANTERA!!! Dimebag is one of my biggest influences
Posted by: skennington Jan 6 2009, 04:43 AM
Found this tree a while back and I think it covers the metal evolution quite well..Maybe a few left out but close.
Posted by: tommyboy Jan 6 2009, 05:20 AM
See people, look at the first branch of the tree. The only real metal band of the bunch is Black Sabbath.
Hence, Black Sabbath were the most infuential metal band of all time. Period!!!!!
tommyboy
Posted by: cony71 Jan 6 2009, 05:33 AM
I vote for Black Sabbath! They are awesome. But the other bands mentioned played their part too, no one denies their merit, but BS were the mother of all hard-ons, haha
Posted by: Barenaked Ninja Jan 6 2009, 06:34 AM
Gotta love how Yngwie get's his own line on the chart!
Posted by: Dreamcatcher Jan 6 2009, 06:39 AM
My personal influence Megadeth, Queensryche and Iron Maiden...these bands seemed to have the sound and feelings to thier music which I most admire....do I think they influenced metal the most...probably not but they influenced me and thats all I can really attest to.
Posted by: utak3r Jan 6 2009, 08:41 AM
Yeah, of course I've heard of them (and them)
It reminds that trash creator could be just Dave himself...
Posted by: OrganisedConfusion Jan 6 2009, 09:54 AM
DEEP PURPLE \M/
Posted by: Fsgdjv Jan 6 2009, 01:18 PM
I'm sorry but that tree is just rubbish.
Posted by: Enucleation Jan 6 2009, 01:24 PM
I think it was Metallica that did it for me but as I think as I progressed Death really made me want to play heavier music and start detuning, and such.
So I'd say Death is at least one of the big influences that at least I had.
Posted by: Martin la guitarra Jan 6 2009, 01:26 PM
Metallica, no doubt
Posted by: Carlos Carrillo Jan 6 2009, 03:05 PM
Initially,Yngwie Malmsteen's Rising Force,but now Alter Bridge,Nickelback....
Posted by: Sensible Jones Jan 6 2009, 06:03 PM
To be absolutely Historically Correct it was Led Zeppelin that the term 'Heavy Metal' was first used about, so therefore they must be the most influential 'Metal' band as without them the Term 'Metal' wouldn't exist!!!
Personally, I grew up with Black Sabbath, Deep Purple etc and then into the NWOBHM (Saxon, Maiden, Preist, Motorhead et all!)
It was a mixture of all of them and EVH and early Clapton that made me pick up a Guitar!
As for 'Most Influential Band' it has to be Black Sabbath. I think they were as influential Lyrically as they were Musically!
Posted by: berko Jan 6 2009, 06:16 PM
Well I think the tree is only one approach, but I do agree with about 50% of it... The way the bubbles (branches call it what you want) stem from each other is a bit too simple... and artificial.
Posted by: skennington Jan 6 2009, 06:26 PM
Lot's of good opinions here. Could Steppenwolf have started it all in the 60's with "Born To Be Wild" when they refered to "Heavy Metal Thunder"
I think one thing we can all agree on here is that the backbone of heavy metal is the electric guitar. You can't have metal without at least one guitarist!
Posted by: tommyboy Jan 6 2009, 06:49 PM
I think one thing we can all agree on here is that the backbone of heavy metal is the electric guitar. You can't have metal without at least one guitarist!
Here's some Steppenwolf history.
"Born to Be Wild" is a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music song written by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Bonfire and made famous by the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_music band, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steppenwolf_%28band%29. It is often used in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_culture to denote a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle appearance or attitude. The song is sometimes described as the first http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music song ever written and is also said to have inspired the name of the emerging heavy metal genre; although these claims are disputed, the song's second verse (which refers to "heavy metal thunder," though it is either a reference to the weight of the motorcycle or a powerful car) contains the first recorded reference to "heavy metal" in the context of rock music.
I would argue however, Black Sabbath was the true first Heavy Metal Band that influence a whole new genre of music.
Now here's some history on Black Sabbath.
Black Sabbath are an English http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music band. Formed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham in 1968 by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozzy_Osbourne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_singer), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Iommi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geezer_Butler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_guitar), and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ward_%28musician%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drum_kit and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percussion_instrument), the band has since experienced multiple lineup changes, with a total of twenty-two former members. Originally formed as a heavy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues-rock band named Earth, the band began incorporating occult- and horror-inspired lyrics with tuned-down guitars, changing their name to Black Sabbath and releasing multiple gold and platinum records in the 1970s.
As one of the first and most influential http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music bands of all time, Black Sabbath helped define the genre with releases such as 1970's quadruple-platinum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid_%28album%29.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_sabbath#cite_note-Paranoid_AMG_Review-0 Black Sabbath has sold more than 100 million albums worldwide,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_sabbath#cite_note-MyBrum.com-1 and were ranked number one on MTV's Greatest Metal Bands countdown.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_sabbath#cite_note-2 Ozzy Osbourne was fired from the band in 1979, and while initially replaced by former http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_%28band%29 vocalist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_James_Dio, Black Sabbath would see a revolving lineup in the 1980s and 1990s that included vocalists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Gillan, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Hughes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Gillen and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_%28musician%29. The original lineup reunited with Osbourne in 1997 and released a live album, Reunion, which spawned the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award-winning single "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man_%28song%29" in 2000, thirty years after the song's initial release on Paranoid.
I think many of the other bands mentioned ( Priest, Iron Maiden, Venom, Motorhead, etc.) further defined heavy metal music. However, with out Sabbaths influence would these bands have ever formed. Just my thoughts.
tommyboy
Posted by: Matt23 Jan 6 2009, 07:07 PM
Black Sabbath and Metallica for me. Black Sabbath because they were one of the first metal bands and metallica because they were so successful.
Posted by: Iron King Jan 10 2009, 09:26 PM
errrr sorry I can't agree with that
there is no one band that invented Thrash. It was really a community of musicians that created the genre. Bands like Overkill and Exodus made a name for themselves at the same time Metallica did. In fact Overkill wrote Thrash songs before Metallica was even formed. Take a look at their songs Death Rider and Rotten to the Core.
Anyway, I don't think anybody can say that one band is the main influence to metal. There's is just too many variations in the genre to do that. Metal works in waves, so the best we could do is list the main bands of each wave that inspired and branched off into the next wave of metal
Posted by: VinceG Jan 10 2009, 10:25 PM
Yeah, no one really created "Thrash". It was just one of those fluke of a genre that just happened. Thrash itself doesn't have a unified sound, even on its hay day. Different countries/cities created different variations of Thrash. The big 4 where just there because they had a more defined sound than the others in the scene. They didn't create Thrash, just popular.
Posted by: Sigfridsson Jan 13 2009, 03:23 PM
For me personally it must have been Maiden and Metallica, I was probably around 10-11 or whatever when I discovered Maiden and then later on 'Tallica as well, those two bands opened up a whole new world for me and also got me into playing the guitar (aspiring to play the guitar at very least!).
I think that still today should I pick up the guitar I could play along to most of the songs on Master of Puppets!
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