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post Sep 12 2019, 11:02 AM
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Seems very powerful


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post Sep 12 2019, 12:39 PM
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Seems very powerful

Too much gain stacked there in the vid. Seems they tried hard with promo and overdid it. I'd rather get an actual tube amp head, my hybrid sounds better too.

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post Sep 12 2019, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE (Adam @ Sep 12 2019, 11:39 AM) *
Too much gain stacked there in the vid. Seems they tried hard with promo and overdid it. I'd rather get an actual tube amp head, my hybrid sounds better too.


We need more video's but my overall impression was mostly positive, one can hear the digitalness specially after the first few examples but imagining playing through a backing track or stage likely the audience will like it.

Digital pedals sound worse when driven hard so we might expect it to sound better on lower gains. For my usage though, connecting to soundcard will likely not sound analog enough to prefer over pedal plug-ins.


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post Sep 12 2019, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Sep 12 2019, 01:14 PM) *
We need more video's but my overall impression was mostly positive, one can hear the digitalness specially after the first few examples but imagining playing through a backing track or stage likely the audience will like it.

Digital pedals sound worse when driven hard so we might expect it to sound better on lower gains. For my usage though, connecting to soundcard will likely not sound analog enough to prefer over pedal plug-ins.

I'm still defending my analogue "amp and mic" approach. Digitals may be good for studio or live with proper sound engineering but a casual player has neither. Bands were recording all analogue in the past and it gave the records uniqueness. Plugins are nice and easy to use but I feel with digitals it's up to the player to make it sound different than others using that plugin, with their own fingers, not technician's touch.

For a soundcard input I'd still pick a plugin unless we're talking about using a mic and a speaker.

There was a delay when he was speaking too. Coming from Boss, this will have the downsides masked up. I'll wait for an objective review.


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post Sep 18 2019, 10:42 PM
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This one is with near zero amp-drive although metal demo.


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post Sep 18 2019, 10:47 PM
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I'd LOVE to try one of these. I hope they show up in guitar center. I wish I didn't love pedals so much smile.gif I'm a plugin guy, but every time I see a cool new pedal I wanna try it.
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 18 2019, 09:47 PM) *
I'd LOVE to try one of these. I hope they show up in guitar center. I wish I didn't love pedals so much smile.gif I'm a plugin guy, but every time I see a cool new pedal I wanna try it.
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First drives (od's) sucked on the clean channel but later on seemed to have really cool high-gain solo/powerchord stuff going on. Likely he didn't mess with the amp so eq options seem very good. The gate is obviously designed for metal though I'm more of a supressor guy.

Mix friendly balance but still a fakeness on the high-end which I'm not sure if its the ir he used or the pedal itself.



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post Sep 18 2019, 11:54 PM
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I'd like to try all of the new boss big pedals at once if possible to see how they get along. Very curious. I know all of it could be done in software, etc. but would just love to have a bit of tiem to line them up and twist knobs smile.gif

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First drives (od's) sucked on the clean channel but later on seemed to have really cool high-gain solo/powerchord stuff going on. Likely he didn't mess with the amp so eq options seem very good. The gate is obviously designed for metal though I'm more of a supressor guy.

Mix friendly balance but still a fakeness on the high-end which I'm not sure if its the ir he used or the pedal itself.
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Ola featured this stompbox in his series smile.gif



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It's a good idea to learn how to use both smile.gif Recording an actual amp is becoming a lost art it seems. Being able to mic and record an amp and get a decent tone out of it, especially at lower volumes, is something every guitar player should be able to do IMHO smile.gif Great to see you trying your hand a both. Each takes practice, just like guitar smile.gif

One suggestion, try both at once! E.G. record your track, (once you get your interface) using a plugin and then record again, to another track using a mic. When you play it back you'll be able to hear what the mic is doing and what the plugin is doing. Blending these two tracks together in your daw can really improve your tone. Give it a whirl!


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I'm still defending my analogue "amp and mic" approach. Digitals may be good for studio or live with proper sound engineering but a casual player has neither. Bands were recording all analogue in the past and it gave the records uniqueness. Plugins are nice and easy to use but I feel with digitals it's up to the player to make it sound different than others using that plugin, with their own fingers, not technician's touch.

For a soundcard input I'd still pick a plugin unless we're talking about using a mic and a speaker.

There was a delay when he was speaking too. Coming from Boss, this will have the downsides masked up. I'll wait for an objective review.
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post Nov 18 2019, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Nov 18 2019, 06:25 PM) *
It's a good idea to learn how to use both smile.gif Recording an actual amp is becoming a lost art it seems. Being able to mic and record an amp and get a decent tone out of it, especially at lower volumes, is something every guitar player should be able to do IMHO smile.gif Great to see you trying your hand a both. Each takes practice, just like guitar smile.gif

One suggestion, try both at once! E.G. record your track, (once you get your interface) using a plugin and then record again, to another track using a mic. When you play it back you'll be able to hear what the mic is doing and what the plugin is doing. Blending these two tracks together in your daw can really improve your tone. Give it a whirl!

I've tried double-tracking a few times and panning each to either side and the results were fantastic. I can only imagine how good would it be to overlap a DI signal with mic'd signal.

I saw blueprints of early Iron Maiden and just from that I infer how slight changes in mic positioning can be impactful (I have no experience in using a mic myself yet).


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post Nov 19 2019, 03:11 AM
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You are in for a treat! Until you get a shure mic, you can always experiment with changing mic positions using your software plugins. Torpedo makes a great free IR cab loader with lots of options and the lessons learned apply to the real world as well.
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I've tried double-tracking a few times and panning each to either side and the results were fantastic. I can only imagine how good would it be to overlap a DI signal with mic'd signal.

I saw blueprints of early Iron Maiden and just from that I infer how slight changes in mic positioning can be impactful (I have no experience in using a mic myself yet).
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