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Posted by: misterj Aug 4 2007, 03:39 PM

hey everyone, i really dug muris' lesson on mark knopfler, but i have to admit, ive never heard of the guy. by the sounds of it, he seems like someone i could really get into. can anyone suggest albums/songs that are some of his best stuff, or that would give me a good intro to the artist? everyone here seems to know him and everyone says hes great. if YOU guys tell me someone is a great artist, i believe you. help me out, gmc fam. who is this guy?

Posted by: MickeM Aug 4 2007, 03:59 PM

I only have one record of his when he was in Dire Straits. Brothers in arms, a great record. A cool song on another record is "Sultans of Swing". That's all I know about him so I'm not a big fan really.

Posted by: blindwillie Aug 4 2007, 04:04 PM

Check out Dire Straits from the early days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_Straits
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Knopfler

Of course people argue about this, but these are my favorites. Check them out:
Dire Straits 1978.
Making Movies 1980.
Brothers in Arms. 1985.

Posted by: MG66 Sep 18 2007, 04:19 PM

I love his style laugh.gif . My master of classic guitar, many years ago, said to me that the silence is much important in a song and I think that Knopfler give to us a good example of that (listen private investigation) wink.gif

Posted by: ZeCoyote Sep 18 2007, 09:09 PM

1- You can NOT live and play guitar without knowing Mark Knopfler !!! You don't deserve to walk on this planet, you insignificant cockroach !!! (just kidding smile.gif)

His best stuff? Well ... almost everything !!!

But if you love the Muris "hommage" to Mark Knopfler and like his use of silence, listen to "News", "Where do you think you're going" for example. For the staccato stuffs, "Lady Writer" or "What it is".

And the most famous ones : Sultans of Swing, Money for Nothing, ...

But honestly, you should listen to all the Dire Straits albums, and Mark Knopfler solo ones. Nothing to throw away.

Posted by: muris Sep 18 2007, 09:21 PM

Well,said his is almost like a Holy Book for every player. biggrin.gif
Communique,Telegraph Road,Your Latest Trick,Fade to Black,Sultans of Swing,Private Investigation,
Darling Pretty etc...pure guitar gems. smile.gif

Posted by: Eat-Sleep-andJam Sep 18 2007, 09:24 PM

Might I add if you use a pick around Mark Knopler you will be beaten to a pulp smile.gif.

Posted by: muris Sep 18 2007, 09:32 PM

QUOTE (Eat-Sleep-andJam @ Sep 18 2007, 10:24 PM) *
Might I add if you use a pick around Mark Knopler you will be beaten to a pulp smile.gif.



You might cool.gif

Posted by: jeff Sep 18 2007, 10:06 PM

QUOTE (ZeCoyote @ Sep 18 2007, 03:09 PM) *
1- You can NOT live and play guitar without knowing Mark Knopfler !!! You don't deserve to walk on this planet, you insignificant cockroach !!! (just kidding smile.gif )

His best stuff? Well ... almost everything !!!

But if you love the Muris "hommage" to Mark Knopfler and like his use of silence, listen to "News", "Where do you think you're going" for example. For the staccato stuffs, "Lady Writer" or "What it is".

And the most famous ones : Sultans of Swing, Money for Nothing, ...

But honestly, you should listen to all the Dire Straits albums, and Mark Knopfler solo ones. Nothing to throw away.


Agree totally!! "News" is an awesome lead because it fits the song prefectly. Knopfler has an amazing tone. I'm a big fan as you can tell from my Avatar. biggrin.gif He's also a great song writer/producer/session musician - the whole deal.

Posted by: JVM Sep 19 2007, 05:52 AM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 18 2007, 08:21 AM) *
Well,said his is almost like a Holy Book for every player. biggrin.gif
Communique,Telegraph Road,Your Latest Trick,Fade to Black,Sultans of Swing,Private Investigation,
Darling Pretty etc...pure guitar gems. smile.gif


ohmy.gif

Totally agree - Knopfler is truly one of the all time greats. There is no one else that sounds like him. You hear that about a lot of players, but honestly Knopfler is pretty much the definition of a guitarist with his own style. He's truly amazing, check out any of his records. They're all amazing. Brothers in Arms the song is the most epic song I think I've ever heard, far more epic than any power metal ballad fest, the rest of the album is great too.

Communique was the first dire straits album I knew, and there's some awesome guitar work in it but overall I'd say its not their best. Still worth picking up though ... even though it may not be their "best" work critically it's still perhaps my favorite record of theirs.

Posted by: ZeCoyote Sep 19 2007, 06:04 PM

Knopfler is unique because we can recognize his songs with the first notes BUT he has a wide range of different song style.

Even if i love them, Angus Young and Slash for example have their typical sound but this is always more or less the same riffs.

Try to listen Money for Nothing, Once upon a time in the west, Single Handed Sailor, Walk of life, Brother in arms. It is very different but sounds typically as a Mark Knopfler masterpiece.

And he is unique too because he is not only an exceptionnal guitar player but a very good songwriter and compositor. And last but not least, he is not the rock star style guitar hero. His life is around music and guitar, not celebrity and business.

His only flaw ? Once, he played a concert with a red bandana et red shoes. It was 80s' style ... cool.gif

Posted by: muris Sep 19 2007, 06:16 PM

Must mention Nothing Hillbillies and wonderful tune he wrote for that record ,Your Own Sweet Way.
And solo on Feel Like Going Home...ahhh biggrin.gif

Posted by: ZeCoyote Sep 19 2007, 08:45 PM

QUOTE
And solo on Feel Like Going Home...ahhh biggrin.gif


Yes !!! The Local Hero live solo is amazing !

It is the really first tab I learned, before any theory or hand position smile.gif . I wanted to play it live during my wedding but I had only 1 month to master it.

Posted by: lefty01 Sep 19 2007, 08:48 PM

Mark did a CD with Chet Atkins, called "Neck To Neck",... I think thats the name of it. I only heard a few tracks on it, but what I did hear, I really enjoyed. You might want to check that out too. I know Amazon will have one, if they are still in print.
Just checked Amazon, they do have it. It came out in Sept. of 1990. Enjoy.

Posted by: muris Sep 20 2007, 05:12 AM

QUOTE (lefty01 @ Sep 19 2007, 09:48 PM) *
Mark did a CD with Chet Atkins, called "Neck To Neck",... I think thats the name of it. I only heard a few tracks on it, but what I did hear, I really enjoyed. You might want to check that out too. I know Amazon will have one, if they are still in print.
Just checked Amazon, they do have it. It came out in Sept. of 1990. Enjoy.



Oh,you shot me to the bone!!
There's a tune Tears,written by Django Rainthard...they did quite awesome version tho. smile.gif

Posted by: tonymiro Sep 20 2007, 07:28 AM

Saw Mark a few years ago do an 'un-announced'/no publicity gig in the NE a few years ago with a couple of local players. He was amazing - great musician and great to see someone of his stature in a small venue. I also Dire Straits many years ago when they were still very much a pub circuit band before they hit the big time - even then it was clear that he (and they) were destined for something big.

Have to say that I've seen a lot of 'play like' Dire Straits/Mark Knopfler - and also SRV ones - and Muris' have been to date by far the best. He nails the technique and the tone and the whole vibe really well.

Cheers,
Tony

Posted by: muris Sep 20 2007, 08:40 AM

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Sep 20 2007, 08:28 AM) *
Saw Mark a few years ago do an 'un-announced'/no publicity gig in the NE a few years ago with a couple of local players. He was amazing - great musician and great to see someone of his stature in a small venue. I also Dire Straits many years ago when they were still very much a pub circuit band before they hit the big time - even then it was clear that he (and they) were destined for something big.

Have to say that I've seen a lot of 'play like' Dire Straits/Mark Knopfler - and also SRV ones - and Muris' have been to date by far the best. He nails the technique and the tone and the whole vibe really well.

Cheers,
Tony



Oh dear,you saw both Mark and Dire Straits live! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif biggrin.gif cool.gif
Thanks for kind words tho Tony! smile.gif

Posted by: ZeCoyote Sep 20 2007, 06:42 PM

I saw Mark Knopfler at Paris/Bercy, it was my very first concert of my life (yes i'm late).

It was one of my best moment in my life, really. It was pure magic.

He played some Dire Straits classical too (most of the musician were former Dire Straits).

Posted by: ZeCoyote Sep 26 2007, 10:04 PM

Which MK's song should I try to learn as a beginner?

Posted by: muris Sep 27 2007, 02:16 AM

QUOTE (ZeCoyote @ Sep 26 2007, 11:04 PM) *
Which MK's song should I try to learn as a beginner?



You are thinking of solos,chords or all together?

Posted by: ZeCoyote Sep 28 2007, 09:24 PM

Something I can play and my wife can recognize easily smile.gif

I was thinking about Boom Like That.

Posted by: Niels Sep 28 2007, 09:53 PM

I'm also a great fan of Mark Knopfler and Dire Straits. The best CD I have from them is the live album Alchemy. You can wake me up in the night for the Sultans of Swing of that cd. It's the best live-song on a CD I know.
One of my favourites songs is Romeo And Julliet and Money for nothing.

From his solo albums I'd prefer Shangri-la and Sailing to Philadelphia.

Mark is releasing a new album these days and will also start a new tour.

Posted by: muris Sep 28 2007, 11:22 PM

QUOTE (ZeCoyote @ Sep 28 2007, 10:24 PM) *
Something I can play and my wife can recognize easily smile.gif

I was thinking about Boom Like That.



Ah,ok smile.gif

Well probably main riff of Money For Nothing is good choice then. cool.gif

Posted by: jeff Sep 28 2007, 11:39 PM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 26 2007, 08:16 PM) *
You are thinking of solos,chords or all together?


He has a good one with early Dire Straits called "where do you think you're going" that is suited well for a beginner. It's has both acoustic and electric that are fun to play and don't present too much of a challenge.

Posted by: muris Sep 28 2007, 11:45 PM

QUOTE (jeff @ Sep 29 2007, 12:39 AM) *
He has a good one with early Dire Straits called "where do you think you're going" that is suited well for a beginner. It's has both acoustic and electric that are fun to play and don't present too much of a challenge.



Good point Jess,that's easy tune to play indeed.
Key of A minor,basic grips etc.
I thought our friend want something easy to recognize,that's why I said Money For Nothing. smile.gif

Posted by: jeff Sep 28 2007, 11:50 PM

QUOTE (muris @ Sep 28 2007, 05:45 PM) *
Good point Jess,that's easy tune to play indeed.
Key of A minor,basic grips etc.
I thought our friend want something easy to recognize,that's why I said Money For Nothing. smile.gif


Muris, it's funny that you mention money for nothing because as much as I love Knopfler, I have never played it before! ohmy.gif I like that tune too. Shame on me! mad.gif huh.gif laugh.gif I'm gonna learn it this weekend. (after I finish in the style of Luke - that is!)

Posted by: ZeCoyote Sep 29 2007, 12:27 AM

Yes indeed, we played Money for Nothing with my former "band" but as our singer didn't know the lyrics, we were doing the riffs in loop.

Where do you think you're going is one of my favourite song. I'll try.

Thank you.

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