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post Feb 17 2008, 05:38 AM
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I've never listened to metal much, but I've started playing some and really enjoy it, and now I need to do my homework.

I'm open for any suggestions: I want a definitive collection of metal to listen to and study, from the roots to the modern day.

Any help?


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post Feb 17 2008, 05:50 AM
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Check out The Uncreators list of metal bands under the Band & Artists forum smile.gif


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post Feb 17 2008, 05:51 AM
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For the roots try some Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and Metallica.


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post Feb 17 2008, 06:19 AM
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QUOTE (swingline @ Feb 16 2008, 10:51 PM) *
For the roots try some Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and Metallica.


Yeah, Black Sabbath was the first time I ever heard it. Iron Man.


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post Feb 17 2008, 06:25 AM
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Its pretty hard to find a band to look for when you don't tell us what kind of basis of genre you want to listen. Perhaps try some Power Metal (Cellador, Blind Guardian, Persuader) or NWOBHM (New Wave Of British Heavy Metal) (Iron Maiden, Grim Reaper, Diamond Head, Judas Priest)


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post Feb 17 2008, 06:36 AM
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I suggest starting with these bands... Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Metallica.





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post Feb 17 2008, 06:45 AM
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I'll list some bands, and good albums to get smile.gif

The earliest metal would be Black Sabbath (Paranoid), Iron Maiden ( anything, but especially Powerslave or The Number of the Beast), and other NWOHBM bands.

Thrash- Metallica ( Kill 'em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, ...And Justice for All), Slayer( Show No Mercy, Hell Awaits, Reign in Blood, Seasons in the Abyss), Megadeth ( Killin is my busuness, Peace Sells, Rust in Peace)

Power Metal- Rhapsody of Fire (anything, but my personal favorites are Power of the Dragon Flame and Symphony of the Enchanted Land)

I'll leave death metal and Black metal to someone more experienced in it, as I'm pretty new to it myself.

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post Feb 17 2008, 06:45 AM
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Ok, so this is kinda vague to be honest, Metal is quite diverse and doesnt not appeal to all people, What kind of metal?

Well you said all the way to modern so i will do a sum um of the various genres.

For the roots, Like everyone said, Black Sabbath is where it pretty much starts. But also check out Iron Maiden, King Diamond, Mercyful Fate, and Judas Priest, Maiden and Priest defined the dual guitar attack and the dual guitar harmony, a common metal signature. More good early bands are Saxon and Angel Witch, Rainbow and Dio.

Now in the 80s things got a bit darker and more evil, and with this, A LOT more heavy. The early 80s saw the birth of Black Metal, Death Metal, Thrash Metal, and Grind. You probably already know the main 80s thrash acts like Megadeth, Metallica, Anthrax, and Slayer, and all these bands are worth checking out, they released some of the best albums of all time. But there are some other guys such as Exodus, Testament, Tourniquet, Annihilator and Nuclear Assault that released incredibly fantastic albums, There are many more unknown acts i wont go into right now. (VinceG I believe you have a rather good list of unknown thrash acts in your head wink.gif ) Other good Thrash acts are EVILE, Warbringer, Sanctity, and Kreator.

Now for death metal, this is hard for most people get into, mostly due to the extreme vocal stylings of Screams and Growls. If you want to ease your self into it, best thing is to listen to bands that use this with clean vocals, such as GMC's favorite Opeth, Novembers Doom, and even Amorphis, Once you have eased yourself in. You can try the more brutal stuff like Arch Enemy, Cannibal Corpse, Death, Suffocation, or Carcass, But the violent imagery of some of these acts is often misinterpreted, so you will have to keep an open mind when going into this, Give it all time, and a good chance, and the wonders of this music shall reveal themselves to you.

Another Genre, and one of my favorites is Progressive. Mostly long songs, complex structures, and intricate instrument work is the name of the game here. The most notable Prog Metal band is probably Dream Theater, But they are certainly not it. Nevermore, Amorphis, Opeth, Novembers Doom, Symphony X, Jag Panzer, are all bands that use similar ideas in different ways to produce very different sounds. All these bands focus on heavy riffs, guitar intricacy, and usually stick to just clean vocals, although Opeth, Novembers Doom, and Amorphis all use growling to one extreme or the other.

Perhaps the most female laden genre, Symphonic metal uses more aspects of Metal as whole than any other genre. Combining female clean vocals, male clean vocals, and growling from both male and female voices, Detuned guitars, large string arrangements, complex song structures, intricate solos and riffs, this genre is one of the most powerful.
Nightwish is easily the most well known Symphonic metal band, along with Epica, Therion, Within Temptation, Eyes Of Eden, Tristania, and The Sins Of Thy Beloved. If you like a very theatrical effect and presence to the music, this is it.

Lastly ill use Power Metal. Easily one of the most popular genres, It emphasizes many of the same things as Symphonic Metal, such as string arrangements, large orchestras, and female and male vocals. But Power metal has a bit more emphasis on the riff and the guitar than Symphonic does. Bands to check out here are Blind Guardian, Stratovarious, Helloween, Hammerfall, Dragonforce, Fates Warning, Metalium, and Primal Fear. Once again, this is even better if you want theatrical effect with lyrical themes that often revolve around fantasy, sci-fi and horror themes.


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post Feb 17 2008, 09:12 AM
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I agree with Uncreator, Metal is almost a world apart. There are lot of Metal-styles tongue.gif


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post Feb 17 2008, 10:21 AM
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Just about getting used to growling, as Uncreator said, Opeth and Novembers Doom mix growls (and I just happen to think Paul Kuhr and Mikael Åkerfeldt are the best growlers out there..) with clean vocals, so that's good for getting into that kind of music, but if I had to recommend a single album for getting into growls, and progressive stuff that doesn't sound like the power metal progressive bands (sorry, I hope I didn't offend anyone, I just can't explain it better) I would recommend the album Materia by Novembre.

I know I didn't help much compared to Uncreator and the others, but I just thought I could mention this.

EDIT: I'm bored, so here's a list of Fsgdjv's 20 most essential metal albums:

1. Opeth - Blackwater Park
2. Katatonia - Brave Murder Day
3. Ulver - Nattens Madrigal
4. Edge of Sanity - Crimson
5. Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
6. Anathema - The Silent Enigma
7. Isis - Oceanic
8. Agalloch - The Mantle
9. Metallica - Ride the Lightning
10. Novembers Doom - To Welcome the Fade
11. Cult of Luna - Salvation
12. Daylight Dies - No Reply
13. At the Gates - Slaughter of the Soul
14. Novembre - Classica
15. In Flames - Lunar Strain (But maybe start with the Jester Race, really awesome aswell and easier to listen to, at least it was for me)
16. Darkthrone - Transylvanian Hunger
17. Bloodbath - Nightmares Made Flesh
18. Morbid Angel - Altar of Madness
19. October Tide - Rain Without End
20. Pelican - The Fire In Our Throats Will Beckon The Thaw (If you count that as metal)

There's obviously nothing that makes the albums higher up be more important (Otherwise The Darkthronw and Morbid Angel albums would have to be higher up, etc), but yeah, those are 20 albums you should check out, and if you like those albums, check out the rest of the stuff that band has done. And if nobody reads this, at least it killed some time for me rolleyes.gif

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post Feb 17 2008, 03:03 PM
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Don´t forget DREAM THEATER!!

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post Feb 17 2008, 03:25 PM
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I agree with the Materia by Novembers Doom, it truly is a unique album, and a damn good one at that.
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post Feb 17 2008, 06:16 PM
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WOW! A big serious thanks! I've got some work to do!

Yeah, I was trying to be kind of vague, because I didn't really know how to be specific. I honestly just want to check it all out.

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post Feb 17 2008, 06:39 PM
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Haha i could name a few, my favourites at the moment are;

Dream Theater
Blind Guardian
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post Feb 17 2008, 07:35 PM
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Without a doubt try Pantera.


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post Feb 18 2008, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Feb 17 2008, 03:25 PM) *
I agree with the Materia by Novembers Doom, it truly is a unique album, and a damn good one at that.

I know that it was probably just a typo, but just to make it clear for glazmusik, it's not Novembers Doom who made that album, only Novembre. laugh.gif


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post Feb 18 2008, 02:40 PM
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Start with the hugely influential bands that started it all off. Black Sabbath, JUDAS PRIEST \m/, Iron Maiden, Venom etc.

Anybody who mentions metal without Judas Priest is missing out. smile.gif


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Here's a list that i would recommend trying out

Iron Maiden
Metallica
Megadeth
Opeth
In Flames
Dark tranquillity
Dream Theater
Symphony X
Rammstein
Amorphis
Arch Enemy
Blind guardian
Children of Bodom
Bullet For My Valentine
As I Lay Dying

There there's a list of bands for you to try out if you want to smile.gif
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QUOTE (Fsgdjv @ Feb 18 2008, 04:21 AM) *
I know that it was probably just a typo, but just to make it clear for glazmusik, it's not Novembers Doom who made that album, only Novembre. laugh.gif


I didnt even notice that, this isnt the first time ive confused novembers doom and novembre, i once though novembre has an album called "The Pale Haunt Departure"
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post Feb 18 2008, 04:57 PM
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what everyone else said. i can't think of anything else to add.
unless you want to look at the slightly more unusual side of metal.
bands like skindred (reggae metal), korpiklaani and eluveitie (folk metal), ensiferum (viking metal), turisas (battle metal), rob zombie (rave metal). the list goes on...


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