Has Amp Modelling Evolved? What do you think?
The first comment at youtube: "Use the kemper to profile the pod"
Best comment ever.
I had a Pod. It was great. Countless awesome albums were recorded using a Pod. I remember seeing acts like KingsX and John Petrucci playing on stage through a Pod that sounded fantastic. Nothing will ever change that. But, it's not nearly as authentic sounding as today's modelers. Not only that, the Pod was surpassed many years ago by the Johnson J-Station. The difference is night and day.
Here's the problem I have: it's fun to do these "shootout" videos for youtube, but they're useless for determining which modeler you prefer. All you're doing is judging which one is tweaked more to your liking.
The point about how easy it is to use a Pod is a good one. That's where today's modelers fail. That's why only a relatively small number of guitarists use them. They're still too complicated.
When looked at a price point (I didn't do any math or websearch but...) they're extremely bad compared to where computers are these days.
The POD at the time wasn't super expensive but the Kemper, Axe-fx is. Atomic and Helix again slide to the expensive side of todays processors.
Tested a boss gt-1 recently and shared opinions here, it sure does have advantages to something like a pod in use but tone-wise nothing night and day.
I still have and use a digitech rp12 which is probably 1-2 years even older than that, it doesn't have amp modeling (does have cab. sim.) but I managed to make a decent sounding clean amp out of it. Believe it or not the drive fx's in it are digitally controlled analog...
Everybody from Fredrik Thorendal to Will Ray recorded with a Pod during the Pod's heyday in the early 2000's.
Digitech used the technology from the J-Station in their Genesis line. The J-Station was much better for a lower price than the Pod, but by time it came out, Line6 had completely locked up the market for amp modelers. It shows how sometimes it's better to be first than it is to be best .
In any case, the fact remains the Pod was revolutionary and represents a pivotal point in the history of guitar technology. Next year will be the 20th anniversary of the introduction of the first Pod.
I read on a few sites that Fear Factory used a POD Pro for their Digimortal album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2OMQx5HsJA
dunno how similar the Pod Pro is to a regular Pod tbh.
Relatively small amount of guitarists use modelers? I gotta push back on that. Every guitar player I listen to currently, and there are just tons of them, ALL use modelers primarily AXE FX and secondarily KEMPER. They are so common that I'm almost shocked when I see a touring player using an actual amp. I just never see it from any of the players bands I follow. Maybe in country/blues, folks lug around real amps, but certainly not in prog/metal/death metal/etc.
They have come so far that the difference is just negligible. Especially when heard in a mix or a live band. Could you tell the difference with golden ears if you just A/B the real and model? Maybe. In a mix? Live? No. It's just pointless imho for touring musicians to lug tube gear which is why they just don't do it anymore. The costs are too high. It's way easier to profile your fave amps using a kemper and just bring the kemper. Ask the guys from Arch Enemy, or Devin Townsend, or Wintersun, or any number of bands. In fact, petrucci is the only guy I can think of off hand, besides maybe lamb of God that insist on toting Mesa boogies with them. Most folks, Periphery, Tosin Abasi, etc. Have just realized that lugging amps is pointless and expensive.
God knows I would never lug one to a gig again. Just over it. I'd take my 11Rack and with my tube preamp in the loop and run to the house direct. Simple, light, done
Todd
It has evolved tremendously... I have tried pretty much everything since digital modelers started apperaring, and I have enjoyed most of the units to certain degree. Zoom's little device that could be attached to the strap ... don't remember it's name now, but it had pitch shift and loads of FX's and could be lined directly to record. V-amp, Line 6 various pod's etc. And now the Kemper that is the first unit that really impressed me enough to keep it. It's the first unit that actually can give me whatever I wan't and it sounds like what I want as well, not just close enough.
With that said... still love the feeling of playing through a real tube amp even if I don't do it that often anymore. Every now and then I come across a Kemper profile that gives me gas! Gotta get a Black Jack amp! Gotta get a Friedman!
I see what you mean on total sales. About modelers being difficult, I think it may be generational. I use a software interface to control my modeler and having grown up with computers it's as easy as sending an email. Some modelers don't have a software interface which I still can hardly believe and find a bit daft, but for any modeler with a software interface, I"ve never had any difficulty at all with them. The line 6 modelers will let you use your ipad! or a software control. I guess it's down to personal taste but I"ve never found my software interface to be anything but easy and elegant. A few clicks and bam, great tone.
Same is true for pure software modelers like TH2 which I've been using for years. If you understand how to build a signal chain in real life, it's just drag and drop.
I can't imagine finding it difficult, but again, I've been using software since a very young age way before I ever touched a real preamp. I have only ever owned one amp head. Waaay back when
Digital amps shouldn't be forgotten, they're to me a processor internally connected to a clean amp. I'm guessing by beginners these are prefered to transistor based stuff we used when we first started.
I demo'd the boss Katana at a store, best digital amps I've heard so far aside an older Fender I forgot the model. I'm pretty sure they used the same algo's I disliked on the gt-1, but investing on the hardware really made it a successful amp and they quickly became popular here.
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