Powerchord Question
Hyunkell
Dec 24 2008, 07:03 PM
GMC:er
Posts: 13
Joined: 21-March 08
From: Luxembourg
Yet another beginner question smile.gif

I only recently started to play on an electric guitar.
Playing power chords seemed rather easy to me, so I never had a deeper look into how to playing them properly.
However, as soon as I tried to do some repetitive powerchord slides, I noticed that something was wrong with my left hand position, as my ring finger was about to start bleeding.
I first thought the small pain would just be my fingers getting used to the steel strings, but this can't be right huh.gif

Here's how I "grabbed" powerchords until now: (sorry about the bad picture quality, cheap laptop webcams coupled with a dark room doesn't work too well)

---
---
---
-5-
-5-
-3-



As you can see, I use my index, ringfinger and pinky to grab the chord, however what you can't see well is that the side of my ringfinger is touching the string, rather then the flat part because it is rotated at a certain degree. In this part of the finger, the skin is much softer, so the string starts cutting into it after some time.
Trying not to rotate the ringfinger, and pressing it flat against the string does work, but it feels unnatural, and I have trouble sliding up and down the neck if I don't rotate it a bit.

I found another way to grab a powerchord is to only use the indexfinger and pinky.
This works rather well, but sliding is a bit unstable, as there seems to be a lack of strength in my pinky.


So, should I force myself to play without rotating the ringfinger, or should I try to play powerchords with only the indexfinger and pinky?
Not using the ringfinger at all feels more natural to me then forcing myself not to rotate it.

Thanks,
Hyu

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


This post has been edited by Hyunkell: Dec 24 2008, 07:05 PM
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Ramiro Delforte
Dec 24 2008, 07:15 PM
Instructor
Posts: 2.279
Joined: 4-August 08
From: Argentina, Buenos Aires
When you play with your pinky finger it's only a 5th chord, the powerchord is named that way because the reinforcement of the root of the chord and that would be root - perfect fifth - root (the ex. could be in C- C,G,C). You should be able to play those chords and be sure to play them with the tip of your fingers.
You have very long fingers so in order to do what I've said the best way is to create a curve in your ring and pinky finger (in the picture it seems that your pinky is near straight).

Let me know if this helped you and be free to keep asking. biggrin.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
Check out my Instructor Profile and Board

LIVE VIDEO CHATS EVERY MONDAY AROUND 22PM (GMC HOUR)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
kaznie_NL
Dec 24 2008, 07:16 PM
Experienced Tone Seeker
Posts: 4.809
Joined: 8-December 07
From: Hedel, Netherlands
ATM, you're using one finger to cover two strings. This is ok, but I think using pinky and ringfinger is better. When you look at the second photo, check out your ringfinger. It has a very different angle then at the first one, this one is way better! I know that in the second picture you don't use the ringfinger, but it does stand in a great position. your finger should be on the string, touching it with the tip, but in the first picture, you use more then just the tip!


In the above picture you can see how to put your fingers! You'll have to use the tip!

So about which fingers to use.... You can just play how you like it best!

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
My YouTube Channel Here

My Rec Takes Here


--- GEAR ---
Ibanez SA08LTD2 BAR
Vox AD50VT
Pod Farm
Line 6 Pod Studio GX
El Cheapo Strat
Dunlop Slide
Korg Toneworks AX5G
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Hyunkell
Dec 24 2008, 07:59 PM
GMC:er
Posts: 13
Joined: 21-March 08
From: Luxembourg
Thanks for the help.
My pinky is indeed completely straight, I suppose one reason for this is that I have a small pinky, but very long ringfinger.
I noticed that if I don't rest my middle finger on my index finger, but keep it at an angle, I don't rotate my ringfinger, and touch the string with the tip of the finger, like I'm supposed to.


So this would work, although I loose the extra stability I gained by resting my middle finger on my index finger.


Between doing this, and only using indexfinger and pinky, is it a matter of personal preference, or is one way "better" then the other?
This also means that I should mute the other strings with my index finger rather then with my pinky, correct?

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


This post has been edited by Hyunkell: Dec 24 2008, 08:00 PM
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Velvet Roger
Dec 24 2008, 09:56 PM
Learning Tone Seeker
Posts: 2.093
Joined: 5-August 08
From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
QUOTE (Hyunkell @ Dec 24 2008, 07:59 PM) *
Between doing this, and only using indexfinger and pinky, is it a matter of personal preference, or is one way "better" then the other?
This also means that I should mute the other strings with my index finger rather then with my pinky, correct?


I am using different fingerings, based on the actual chord progressions/variations I am going to do.

If I am doing regular powerchords (on 3 strings), I am always using the index finger together with ringfinger and pinky. That way I can easily switch between e.g. a C powerchord and a Cmaj7 (without the 3rd) (for the Cmaj7 chord you only have to lift the pinky from the G-string and use the middle finger instead on the 4th fret of the G-string):


------------------
------------------
--5--5-----4---5--
--5--5-----5---5--
--3--3-----3---3--
------------------

If I am doing full major chords (on 4 strings), I am often using the index finger together with the ringfinger (to cover the D, G and B string). That way I can easily switch between e.g. a C major chord and a C sus4 chord (which is replacing the major third in the C chord with a fourth), for the C sus4 chord you can just add the pinky on the B string, 6th position.:


------------------
--5--5-----6---5--
--5--5-----5---5--
--5--5-----5---5--
--3--3-----3---3--
------------------


Both examples are shown in a short video which I made to explain it better (see attached).

Regarding muting, it's mainly the index finger, but also the pinky can mute the B-string a little.

Hopefully this is helpful.

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


This post has been edited by Velvet Roger: Dec 24 2008, 10:16 PM

Attached File(s)
Attached File  Powerchords.avi ( 2.19MB ) Number of downloads: 166
 


--------------------
"Don't practice until you get it right. Practice until you can't get it wrong."

Guitars & Amps
Brian Moore DC-1 Custom Shop (Cherry Sunburst, mahogany/rosewood)
Eric Johnson Signature Strat (2-tone Sunburst, alder/maple)
Ibanez RG770 (Black, basswood/rosewood)
Peerless Journeyman (solid spruce/maple)
Sixt Bov-105C (Ovation-like acoustic) - Ibanez SGT-130 (Jumbo acoustic)
London City VS-1 (Precision bass) - Baton Rouge U3S (Ukelele)
Fender HotRod Deluxe 40W combo - Fender Princeton Reverb Reissue 5W combo - Marshall JCM 900 50W Hi-Gain combo

Effects & Other stuff
POD Studio UX2 audio interface - Edirol MA-15D monitors
EH Double Muff - Fulltone GT-500 - Fulltone Fulldrive 2 Mosfet - Guitarsystems TrebleTool Junior - Guitarsystems FuzzTool Junior
Korg Pitchblack Tuner - MXR Carbon Copy Analog Delay - TC Electronics Nova Modulator - Morley Bad Horsie 2 Wah
Shure SM58 - Roland PCR-500 midi controller/keyboard & Yamaha Clavinova CL-910 piano


My Website
My MySpace Page
My YouTube Channel
My Twitter Account
My Band 'Gonzo!'



Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Hyunkell
Dec 25 2008, 10:57 AM
GMC:er
Posts: 13
Joined: 21-March 08
From: Luxembourg
Thanks!
This helped quite alot smile.gif

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Ivan Milenkovic
Dec 25 2008, 07:09 PM
Instructor
Posts: 25.396
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
QUOTE (Hyunkell @ Dec 24 2008, 07:59 PM) *
Thanks for the help.
My pinky is indeed completely straight, I suppose one reason for this is that I have a small pinky, but very long ringfinger.
I noticed that if I don't rest my middle finger on my index finger, but keep it at an angle, I don't rotate my ringfinger, and touch the string with the tip of the finger, like I'm supposed to.


So this would work, although I loose the extra stability I gained by resting my middle finger on my index finger.


Between doing this, and only using indexfinger and pinky, is it a matter of personal preference, or is one way "better" then the other?
This also means that I should mute the other strings with my index finger rather then with my pinky, correct?


I think it's all a matter of personal preference mate. In general when you do fret the powerchord, it is maybe better to involve the ring finger, because you leave the pinky for some fretting on other strings if you know what I mean.
When you barre the fifth and octave with your pinky finger as you do in another way that you showed, I think it is better to use the ring finger to barre these two strings. Since you ring finger is long, you can achieve it through practice. I say what is IMO the most natural way, but I've seen a lot of good players that fret the powerchords on both ways you do it, and it can sound good no problem, so I can't see why this could be wrong.
If the sound your fingers produce is good and you feel comfortable playing like that, I say keep the fretting as it is.
Regarding the muting, it is good to mute with index by just gently laying out the index finger on top of the strings, so you leave other strings free for other fretting.

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!


--------------------
- Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
- Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons
- (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel
- Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Hyunkell
Dec 25 2008, 08:54 PM
GMC:er
Posts: 13
Joined: 21-March 08
From: Luxembourg
Thanks Ivan smile.gif
Good to know that I can do it both ways, after doing some practicing I think I'll go with the approach that involves the ringfinger.

You are at GuitarMasterClass.net


Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 




RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 20th April 2024 - 01:36 AM