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Posted by: kyldeee Aug 7 2008, 03:56 PM

How come my PX5D sounds nothing like this ( I know it's a PX4D in the video, but it shouldn't make much of a difference )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P88gEVKS8ag

That sounds awesome, why is it that I can't get nothing similiar from my Px5d, the sound is so dull, and I know it's not because of my guitar. Is my Px5d broken or sum or is it that the Px4d is so much better huh.gif I'm so confused, I've tried to tease Muris with my stupid questions about how he gets his guitar sounds so good, and have so much distortion, I can't get nothing out of mine, and now this guy comes and plays with awesome sounding tones, nothing like what comes out of my shi**y little box... My fellow Px5d owner's, tell me what is wrong, is it broken???? sad.gif

Man, I noticed that all I've been doing in the forums lately is to bitch about something biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Well, still, help me smile.gif

Cheers

Posted by: Marcus Siepen Aug 7 2008, 04:12 PM

One thing everybody has to face is the fact that your tone does not only depend on your gear, a lot (and I mean A LOT) comes only from your fingers! If you play on somebody elses equipment you will still not sound like that person, simply because you are not this person, you way of picking is different, your vibrato is different, your phrasing is different, everything is different.

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Aug 7 2008, 09:16 PM

I couldn't agree more, fingers hold the sound, the gear amplifies it. I don't say the gear is not important because it is, but the main things that produce the sound are hands, and those micro-movements of one player can never be the same as others.

Posted by: Toni Suominen Aug 7 2008, 09:23 PM

The PX5D is in good condition right? if so, try and fiddle around with it some more, I remember that I had to tinker my podXT alot the first time I tried using it to get a good sound smile.gif

Posted by: Muris Varajic Aug 8 2008, 01:48 AM

Have you tried settings I gave you,
hint about the cable you should use to connect it to your PC?

Might be broken tho,who knows.
But test it more,each tone needs more extra tweaking
if you use different guitar etc. smile.gif

Posted by: mattacuk Aug 8 2008, 08:55 AM

lol, is that guy REALLy playing through a PX4D? Im not so sure !! tongue.gif

Posted by: MickeM Aug 8 2008, 10:05 AM

QUOTE (mattacuk @ Aug 8 2008, 09:55 AM) *
lol, is that guy REALLy playing through a PX4D? Im not so sure !! tongue.gif

Seen other flicks of him, he's making clinics for Marshall along these other gear reviews.

don't know how he recorded the tone either, maybe miked up through an expensive PA with large speakers that adds a bit of cone fullness to the sound. As oppsed to direct into a PC or the sound you'd get in headphones. huh.gif

Posted by: kyldeee Aug 8 2008, 12:34 PM

QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Aug 8 2008, 01:48 AM) *
Have you tried settings I gave you,
hint about the cable you should use to connect it to your PC?

Might be broken tho,who knows.
But test it more,each tone needs more extra tweaking
if you use different guitar etc. smile.gif

Yeah, I've tried your settings, but the sound is nothing like yours, and I do agree that most of the sound comes from your fingers, but in my case here I don't think that's the situation, I don't seem to get enough Gain, when for example I want to play some shreddy stuff... But I don't think it's broken tho.... What kind of cable do you use to connect it to straight to your soundcard????

Posted by: botoxfox Aug 8 2008, 03:05 PM

Do you get a really muddy sound?

Posted by: kyldeee Aug 8 2008, 03:09 PM

QUOTE (botoxfox @ Aug 8 2008, 03:05 PM) *
Do you get a really muddy sound?

yeah, kind of...


well actually really muddy...

Posted by: botoxfox Aug 8 2008, 03:14 PM

QUOTE (kyldeee @ Aug 8 2008, 04:09 PM) *
yeah, kind of...


well actually really muddy...

Go to the dynamics settings and turn on lowcut, that should help. smile.gif

Posted by: kyldeee Aug 8 2008, 03:17 PM

Nope... Now everything sounds almost clean, a bit crunchy maybe, but that's it sad.gif

Posted by: botoxfox Aug 8 2008, 03:19 PM

Hmm, weird, it works for me. How high is your gain setting? Also, what amp model are you using?

Posted by: kyldeee Aug 8 2008, 03:22 PM

ATM ... Gain is 10 and Amp model US modern....

Posted by: DeepRoots Aug 8 2008, 03:25 PM

I must admit that i'm not overly impressed with the tones my PX5d are producing....i have it hooked up via usb- and just about the only good tone i can get are based on the setting Muris shared- and it still doesn't sound quite so good.
I'll be reading this thread like crazy lol

Posted by: kyldeee Aug 8 2008, 03:39 PM

QUOTE (DeepRoots @ Aug 8 2008, 03:25 PM) *
I must admit that i'm not overly impressed with the tones my PX5d are producing....i have it hooked up via usb- and just about the only good tone i can get are based on the setting Muris shared- and it still doesn't sound quite so good.
I'll be reading this thread like crazy lol

Yeah, same here, but I can't get that thick sound, when f.e. he pulls a mega massive shred from his sleave, like in the rocking tune advanced lesson he makes that huge run which sounds super cool, but I don't have enough gain to play it that heavy or to get that "BIG" sound or whatever..... biggrin.gif

Posted by: DeepRoots Aug 8 2008, 03:54 PM

QUOTE (kyldeee @ Aug 8 2008, 03:39 PM) *
Yeah, same here, but I can't get that thick sound, when f.e. he pulls a mega massive shred from his sleave, like in the rocking tune advanced lesson he makes that huge run which sounds super cool, but I don't have enough gain to play it that heavy or to get that "BIG" sound or whatever..... biggrin.gif

I find the only way to make my sound "big" is to copy and past the take in another track in my daw, and pan them left and right.

I actually usually go for 4 tracks for any one guitar part, 2 left, 2 right. Did you try this in your DAW ?

Posted by: fatb0t Aug 8 2008, 03:57 PM

Every four months for whatever reason I HATE MY TONE. I literally cannot handle it any more. I've gone from a Mesa Boogie F50 four months later to a PodXt five months later to Guitar Rig - I'm back to my PodXT again...

Put the Pandora away for a while and try something new, when you come back to it - it will seem fresh again I promise.

Posted by: kyldeee Aug 8 2008, 04:02 PM

QUOTE (DeepRoots @ Aug 8 2008, 03:54 PM) *
I find the only way to make my sound "big" is to copy and past the take in another track in my daw, and pan them left and right.

I actually usually go for 4 tracks for any one guitar part, 2 left, 2 right. Did you try this in your DAW ?

No, I haven't tried it yet, but I certainly will, thanks for the tip smile.gif


QUOTE (fatb0t @ Aug 8 2008, 03:57 PM) *
Every four months for whatever reason I HATE MY TONE. I literally cannot handle it any more. I've gone from a Mesa Boogie F50 four months later to a PodXt five months later to Guitar Rig - I'm back to my PodXT again...

Put the Pandora away for a while and try something new, when you come back to it - it will seem fresh again I promise.

Yeah, I could try that, I should have Roland Micro Cube here somewhere, I bet that sounds even worse biggrin.gif

Posted by: kyldeee Aug 8 2008, 06:14 PM

Maybe I should go and buy the Line 6 PodXT Live and give the PX5D in trade, and all my other stuff I don't use.... Or just try and sell them huh.gif

Posted by: Muris Varajic Aug 9 2008, 12:20 AM

QUOTE (kyldeee @ Aug 8 2008, 01:34 PM) *
What kind of cable do you use to connect it to straight to your soundcard????


http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=7695 is the picture of cable and some
other info as well,check it out. smile.gif

Posted by: kyldeee Aug 9 2008, 12:00 PM

QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Aug 9 2008, 12:20 AM) *
http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=7695 is the picture of cable and some
other info as well,check it out. smile.gif

OK, thanks smile.gif

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