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Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 14 2009, 12:53 PM

Here you can upload your takes

For more info about collaboration go http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/index.php?showtopic=23451

Posted by: David Wallimann Jan 14 2009, 04:15 PM

Great backing Pedja,
Here is my take. One with backing, other one without...

 David_Wallimann_backing.mp3 ( 965.21K ) : 564


 David_Wallimann_no_backing.mp3 ( 965.21K ) : 451

Posted by: berko Jan 14 2009, 04:20 PM

You're not making this easy for us are you? David that was AWESOME... I really loved the tone and the vibe...

Posted by: David Wallimann Jan 14 2009, 04:35 PM

Oh, thanks a lot man! :-)
I'm sure you'll do an excellent job bro! :-)

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jan 14 2009, 05:25 PM

Great solo David, really cool and smooth

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 14 2009, 05:56 PM

Thank you David !
That was really quick
Feel free to record more takes if you want, and then we can choose the one you like the most.

Also it would be cool if you played after 4 clicks in as I might need to put you as the first one when you have pickup melody.

Hope that makes sense man - thanks

Posted by: David Wallimann Jan 14 2009, 07:35 PM

Thanks man,
I recorded it this morning 'cause I knew I would be very busy after that and in the next few days and I really wanted to participate.
I'll try to make another take starting after the count in though.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 14 2009, 11:30 PM

Great David, I look forward to more takes.
I really appreciate you doing multiple takes , seriously.

Thanks man

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 16 2009, 06:22 PM

Here is my improvised take. I already posted it in sign up tread as well, but we should have it here as it will be easier to find

Posted by: big harry Jan 16 2009, 06:53 PM

AWESOME !!! i like it very much, i wanted to do the same but ..............

by the way david yours is also great, i´d love to play like this .....


just give me 2 more weeks in the MTP and i will .......... (2 more YEARS sounds better hääää )

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 16 2009, 07:00 PM

Thanks Harry, glad you enjoyed it.

What do you think about lesson with this solo ?

Posted by: enforcer Jan 16 2009, 07:18 PM

Pedja, buddy, that is great. I am not sure my solo will sound any near that... But I think in time with a lot of experience maybe I will be able to write fusion solos half good as this

Everything's great. And also I loved your tone it has a great low end, possibly thanks to a jazz body guitar, and got crazy with the little harmonic minor touch on the third measure before the descending arpeggio.
Wow

Outstanding middle solo, and the G7sus4 to G#dim7 part was also accompagned with an apogee of feelings
And the finishing melody was so great and all this in an improvisation, you are not an instructor for nothing buddy

Can

edit:typo



I am writting this between system shocks, how could I even miss that? I dare not to speak about that David this cant be real

Posted by: big harry Jan 16 2009, 07:22 PM

Pedja if you want to keep me busy for the next 2 years for sure ......

Sure if you have it in GP-version i will try to do it
lets say what Andres thinks of that for week 3 ....

Posted by: berko Jan 16 2009, 07:58 PM

Great playing Pedja, I really loved the tone and your note choice!!

A lesson?? DEFINITELY

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 16 2009, 08:58 PM

Thank you very much buddy. I try my best always and really like this backing track, so I got inspired to play cool things I guess






Haha next 2 years ! Come on, with slower backing track you can gradually get it up to speed I am sure.

Do your MTP thing, I will get to doing lesson for this solo soon



Thanks Berko , much appreciated !

I will with pleasure do lesson for that solo, just wondering how many people will be interested in it

Posted by: Emir Hot Jan 16 2009, 09:04 PM

whoohooooo mate, this is just awesome. You are a theory master and a musician with some incredible ideas. Great solo bro

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 16 2009, 09:10 PM

Emir, what can I tell you after that ?

Thank you million times , but thats not enough times for these words of praise!

Just doing my best you know...

Posted by: David Wallimann Jan 16 2009, 09:12 PM

Pedja, your take is awesome!
Very inspiring!
I'm stealing some licks if that's cool with you. :-)

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 16 2009, 09:22 PM

David thank you very much man

Feel free to steal anything you like man

Posted by: David Wallimann Jan 16 2009, 09:27 PM

I'm on it!
Your take is loaded into Soundforge, sliced up the licks I want, slowed them down and am enriching my vocabulary.
Thanks man!

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 16 2009, 09:29 PM

Thats the way to do it man !

I will do a lesson really soon on that solo so you will even see positions where I play everything.
Its all over the neck by the way

Posted by: Smells Jan 16 2009, 10:47 PM

Here ya go mate, gave it a good go tonight, bit sloppy soz

 Smells_Pedja_collab_with_BT_.mp3 ( 650.42K ) : 441


 Smells_Pedja_collab_no_BT_.mp3 ( 645.75K ) : 386



Edit: take without backing is pretty dry, no delay or reverb so you can tweak as ya like

Posted by: enforcer Jan 16 2009, 11:51 PM

Wow, this is gonna be hard after David, Pedja and Smells and their outstanding takes, but here is my take. I still got that odd clicking soundcard problem, but when put in mix, I doubt it will be a problem for you Pedja, clickings are still there though...

Well as I told before, Fusion is a very new style for me, so I am sure you got plenty of comments about my take, but please keep in mind this is my first! I tried to do my best

So here it is,


edit: File names are corrected...

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 17 2009, 03:20 AM

Thanks Chris !




You have nothing to worry about Can I believe most people who signed up are having a go at this for first time. Thats what makes it special I think , and we are here all to learn and help each other out. I will do my best to point you guys in right direction for everything, you are in good hands

Posted by: enforcer Jan 17 2009, 10:04 AM

You are the man! Thank you and looking forward to your comments buddy, take care!

Can

Posted by: lcsdds Jan 17 2009, 11:50 AM

Nice Can!!

Posted by: Vasilije Vukmirovic Jan 17 2009, 12:50 PM

Pedja, that is really nice solo you played, I noticed you are using some advanced scales(did I hear diminished scale?)!

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 17 2009, 01:23 PM

Thanks Can , keep up the good work.

I hope you will resolve sound card problem soon !



Thanks Vasilije. You were very close, its actually Melodic Minor 7th mode Altered dominant scale

Posted by: Tolek Jan 17 2009, 01:32 PM

Really nice take, Pedja! I´m sure Pedja will post a positive comment in it.
Smells´ take is very agressive and fits to the backing very well, too.
Enforcer, this reminds me a bit of Muris. So, it sounds awesome!

I´m currently working on my take. The backing is so well done!

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 17 2009, 01:45 PM

I won't comment my take, I will leave that for all of you guys to say what you like or don't like about it.

I can however comment in terms of approach I used, what scale and arpeggio I applied, what was my phrasing there about etc. That can help in your future solos

Thanks Tolek

Posted by: enforcer Jan 17 2009, 03:27 PM

Thank you buddy, I am glad you liked it!



Thank you buddy! And I agree on that backing is just awesome! But its hard too

Posted by: Deleted Jan 17 2009, 04:31 PM

This is my entry, I know it's not good but as Pedja knows I'm playing guitar for about 7 months...

Posted by: David Wallimann Jan 17 2009, 04:56 PM

Smells, that was great! You're great in that style, I really liked what you recorded!

Enforcer, I thought you did really good for someone new to fusion! Very well thought solo.

Deleted, you've been playing for only 7 months?!? Wow!!! I wish I could have done that after 7 months of guitar! Great job!

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 17 2009, 05:03 PM

For 7 months of playing this is great man !

Chord progression is not in one key which makes it very hard for improvising , even for people who play for years.

I will comment on your take when final mix is done.

Thank you very much !

And yeah, deadline is 28th of January , so you can submit more takes in the meanwhile if you want, and let me know the one you like the most

Posted by: Velvet Roger Jan 17 2009, 11:30 PM

Here is my take, enjoyed playing over the backing a lot Pedja!

Was a tough one though, and a completely new musical style for me.
Just let me know if I lost track completely on this one . If that's the case, I will try to upload a new one

Posted by: audiopaal Jan 17 2009, 11:50 PM

I'm confused
Working on my take but it's hard

I'll get it done eventually

Posted by: Tolek Jan 17 2009, 11:54 PM

Idem.


Cool takes, guys!

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 18 2009, 12:30 AM

Thank you Roger !
I will send you PM about your take now

Posted by: Velvet Roger Jan 18 2009, 02:41 AM

Ok, have done another take, fixed to 'out-of-tune' problem and did something completely different during F# minor. Going to sleep now

Posted by: enforcer Jan 18 2009, 03:02 AM

I loved your tone buddy! And also your solutions for key changes were also brilliant!

Posted by: Velvet Roger Jan 18 2009, 03:30 AM

Cheers mate

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 18 2009, 03:07 PM

This was much closer to what I was looking for.
Thanks for recording another one Roger !

Posted by: Velvet Roger Jan 18 2009, 03:09 PM

Pfew

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jan 18 2009, 08:59 PM

Here's my take guys, hope you find it interesting. Didn't want to make it too "standard", so I went for a touch of Balkan vibe.

Posted by: enforcer Jan 18 2009, 09:05 PM

Its very different for sure Ivan, I loved trills and fast runs... You dont need me to say this but great take for sure bro

Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jan 18 2009, 10:19 PM

Thanks a lot mate!

Posted by: Vasilije Vukmirovic Jan 18 2009, 11:16 PM

Good solo Ivan, I didn't know you know to play this stuff.

Posted by: berko Jan 18 2009, 11:20 PM

Now this aint fair! When I first checked for new uploads there was David here who did his in only a few hours. I really got intimidated

When I wanted to bring my first solo (which was actually a clean solo): there came Pedja, Chris and enforcer and then I was like packing everything back into my sack.

Now here I come, this is my third solo on this BT and I won't escape this time

So, Pedja, my concept was quite simple: stick to the scales derived from the backing chords and mix them up with some passing random notes. I did a lot of "turn around"s too. There are some runs in there, but I wanted the F#m legato to be a bit more effective with a little interval leap. The last part before returning to Am was only improv (I've explored a bebop-like fragment in it but i'm not sure about that... ) cause I concentrated on the timing mainly and I was like sweating bucketfuls for 2 days.

Anyway, hope it's not that bad after all

 fusion_berko2.mp3 ( 548.9K ) : 226

 fusion_berko2_noBT.mp3 ( 548.9K ) : 177

Posted by: wrk Jan 18 2009, 11:32 PM

This is really not an easy chord progress. Pedja knows how to challenge us
I really tried to follow the harmony change, not sure i archived this.
Anyway .. here is my (first) take. I hope you guys like it.

 Pedja_Fusion_collab_wbt.mp3 ( 503.2K ) : 242
 Pedja_Fusion_collab_nbt.mp3 ( 503.2K ) : 198

I would like to work on some other takes and hope i will be able to do something a bit more melodic ..

Great takes so far guys!!
Pedja's take is just awesome, don't know why, but i hear some Al di Meola in there. Am i wrong?

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 19 2009, 12:12 AM

Exactly !

But feel free to do more takes - there is 9 days left before deadline for submitting



Thanks for submitting your take Ivan !

Again deadline is 9 days from now so feel free to submit more takes as I will be making comments for everybody




Thanks for your take Berko !

It sounds like you recorded couple of different guitar parts at different spots ?

Same thing as for everyone - 9 days left , do as many takes as you want and choose the one that rocks hard for you

Thanks man




Andy thank you for your (first) take !

I like what you have done in certain sections but somehow I think you can do even better (especially last cadence F/G G#dim7 A min part).

Record more takes, post them here, 9 more days left, do one take a day if you can and you will find your perfect take.


You are absolutely right about backing by the way. This type of harmony is not in one key and is definitely not something you are used to playing over guys. You mostly had Blues collabs and some Major and/or Minor type harmonies. This one is Minor with some modal harmonies combined so you have to use your ear as well as scale knowledge.

Andy your A minor to C minor part was really good example how you used Voice Leading to get from note from previous chord into the closest note of the next one !
Thats what makes Fusion music work and connected, you have to use voice leading when improvising. Jumping around is OK when you apply some rest in your solos, otherwise it sounds unconnected !

Hope these advices help out a bit


As far as Al Di Meola reference goes I will say THANK YOU , but to be honest I never spent any time listening to him and his style ! He plays Spanish type harmonies, uses alternate picking and muting and that just doesn't work for me.
Guitar players that I listen(ed) a lot are Pat Metheny, Mike Stern, John Scofield and of course Scott Henderson but also sax players like Michael Brecker, John Coltrane, Charlie Parker !
So thats my real influence and where I get all my inspiration from when I try to create something.

I am glad you enjoyed solo, I will record some easier ones and post them hopefully tomorrow.


Feel free to ask any questions guys and keep posting your takes - we are all here to learn and help each other out !

Pedja

Posted by: berko Jan 19 2009, 12:14 AM

Yes, I did record different spots and it's my fault that I've spoiled the the mastering, I'll reload it then.

EDIT: some minor corrections on the dry take.

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Posted by: Ivan Milenkovic Jan 19 2009, 12:20 AM

Thanks mate. I love to listening all kinds of jazz, and like playing it ocassionally, as well as making fusion with other genres here and there. I'm certainly no jazzman, just try to broaden the views for many music styles.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 19 2009, 12:25 AM

No Berko, you didn't spoil anything
I was just wondering thats all...

You can record as many takes as you want man -go for it

Posted by: lcsdds Jan 19 2009, 12:27 AM

I liked it Berko!! Good job. I am gonna start working on my take this week.

Posted by: wrk Jan 19 2009, 12:28 AM

Thanks Pedja, i will do more takes for sure .. i guess i just needed to finish this approach, so i uploaded it. I'm not really happy with the last part ether. Thanks for pushing me


Yes, Al Di Meola is more know for his acoustic guitar and spanish harmonies, but i remember an early record from him "Tirami Su", which i listen a lot .. somehow the first part of your solo brought back some memories . I have to listen more to these guys you mentioned above. Do you have special record recommendation maybe?

Posted by: lcsdds Jan 19 2009, 12:32 AM

I love your style Andy!! I am not really a fan of blues but you play it with such a cool style. Makes me want to start working on my non-existent blues licks.

Posted by: wrk Jan 19 2009, 12:42 AM

Thanks Monte !! .. damn, i limited my self to one single bend it still sounds like blues ... i tried to avoid this on this collab .
Work on some blues licks, you will start to love it when play it ...

Posted by: lcsdds Jan 19 2009, 12:49 AM

I was including your take on Emir's collab as well with that statement. Your style is hard to pin down. Just when I think you are a straight blues guy you rip off a shred run and confuse me. I am really gonna have to force my fingers to "behave" on this take. Should be fun.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 19 2009, 01:03 AM

Posted by: wrk Jan 19 2009, 01:17 AM

Thanks Pedja for the record recommendations. I will for sure check them out !!

You are definitely not pushing to hard !! I feel a bit like back in school and i really hope you will continue collaborations around chord progressions like that.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 19 2009, 01:27 AM

Next collaboration could be Blue Bossa , easier Jazz type, like Berko and some other members suggested Paiva was one I think also

I am in the chat now guys so come in if you are around and want to talk a bit about Fusion Collaboration

Posted by: JamesT Jan 19 2009, 03:31 AM

Ok Pedja, here's my take.

I had to stretch a bit to get this one, especially to stay with the chord changes at the end. Overall, I think it turned out pretty good...anxious to see what everyone thinks. Need to smooth out my legato though. Thanks so much for putting this collab together. It was a blast. I cant' wait to hear everone's takes.

 20090118_Collab_Pedja_wBacking.mp3 ( 474.13K ) : 199

 20090118_Collab_Pedja_noBacking.mp3 ( 474.13K ) : 186

Posted by: Slammer Jan 19 2009, 05:00 AM

OK.

Here is my take.

I just want to apologize in advance, right now my recording situation isn't very good at all, So, sorry for the Bad Quality of the recording

And thanks Pedja for making this collab. I have never played much fusion at all, So it was really fun jamming with this BT, and this is a style I further want to explore in the future

here it is

 Slammerfusion_With_BT.mp3 ( 493.92K ) : 195


 Slammerfusion_NoBT.mp3 ( 489.79K ) : 200

Posted by: berko Jan 19 2009, 11:33 AM

Well ok, I thought it was going to fit nicely over the BT! I recorded the fast runs separately. The slides seem to overlap each other but actually that was some silly solution to connect to the Cm part... and I almost got my fingers tangled forever Oh, and for the last part I tuned my B string to A to make that open-string legato motif Wasn't an easy job to put this stuff together properly...

This was my first fusion attempt ever and I'm really curios about your comments on everybody's take. Thanx again, Pedja and don't refuse to "torture" us with these more "modal" BTs!

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 19 2009, 12:12 PM

Well done James !

I will comment on it when final mix is done but overall this was really cool



No need to apologize Slammer, I will boost your audio in Nuendo somehow !

Thank you for signing up and recording your take. This was really cool like JamesT solo as well.

Perhaps I will make more collabs like this in future - we can talk about it, see what everybody thinks

Thanks




No worries Berko I am curious like you are about everybody's takes. I will take in mind when making comments since this is new approach for you guys, but I wont spare instructors on this cause lets face it they are instructors and should nail this


Perhaps next collab we can do Blue Bossa type harmony , what do you think about it ?

Posted by: Paiva Jan 19 2009, 03:08 PM

OK my take is here
 Fusion_Collab_backing.mp3 ( 469.8K ) : 224


With no backing track I will have to upload in WAV (having problems in encoding to mp3 sry)

 Fusion_Collab_backing.wav ( 5.05MB ) : 131

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 19 2009, 03:23 PM

Thanks Paiva, I am sending you PM about it now

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 19 2009, 06:36 PM

Hi guys,

Here is another improvised solo that I consider to be in the Easy or Beginner category.

I will record more now, hope you find it useful !

Pedja

Ok here is two more improvisations that I named Beginner ones. I am really using penatatonic and aeolian mode - nothing crazy going on.

Posted by: wrk Jan 19 2009, 11:26 PM

Somehow i did not read this ... that would be awesome !! As i said already, you often find the right words to explain these things. A structured step by step series would be great .. and a guided collab like this one parallel to each lesson, man, please do it !!

Posted by: Paiva Jan 19 2009, 11:54 PM

Hi again a redone take

 Fusion_Collab_backing.mp3.mp3 ( 469.8K ) : 249


and Sry again for uploading in WAV but the encoder is acting stupid just with the no backing tracks don't ask me why :S

 Fusion_Collab_backing_nb_.wav ( 2.5MB ) : 172

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 19 2009, 11:59 PM

Thanks Paiva !

Don't worry about WAV its usable in Nuendo I will mix it after 28th.
Nice take by the way





Cool Andy , I am glad you like the idea. Let me ask you this... Are you saying that on each topic, there should be different collaboration ? For example repetition , and then one collab, other one would be odd vs even then another collab on that etc?
I am not sure I understood that correctly , correct me if I am wrong ?

I am open to ideas and suggestions always !

Posted by: Paiva Jan 20 2009, 12:02 AM

By the way this would be awesome man

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 20 2009, 12:03 AM

Great Paiva !
I know you requested it, I am really thinking about it , but lets first wait and see how this collab turns out

Posted by: berko Jan 20 2009, 12:19 AM

Hey Pedja, I see I've almost missed some important discussions here

This step-by-step collab series would be a great idea.

I can see now why you've organized such collabs so far (and why you plan a bossa as an upcoming idea). When I always read about your suggestions in the first post of these collabs about sequences, motif development etc. it is clear that your aim is not to simply torture us with complex backings and you surely help a lot when we ask. However, when I browse GMC and other stuff to help me out on creating something that at least a little resembles fusion or funk in your collabs it makes it a bit difficult and that's why I think even GMC is limited to only providing some (passive) examples rather than helping in composition with giving feedback live and supporting a platform to present our humble stuff (and parallel to this: getting us develop even more).

What Andy suggested, if I understand it correctly, is to provide these collabs but merging them with special guidelines. So in each collab we focus on different composition skills and we do that by doing our stuff and learn new theory related to it. Such masterclass series would be an awesome initiative and as far as I see it there are many members willing to participate (including meeee ).

I'm curious about your thought on this subject, Pedja!


EDIT: Oh and btw a first approach could be what you have just done with this collab: make your own solos to create lessons that are closely related to each collab. Anyway, some structure will be definitely needed to keep this together. It would be a pity to let such organized info (like your epic posts) simply sink to the bottom of our mighty GMC forum...

Posted by: wrk Jan 20 2009, 12:20 AM

Yes, something like this.
If you cover a topic (complex harmonies, voice leading soloing, repetition , motive development, melodic shapes, ...) in one lesson of this series, it could be cool to work on the same topic in the next collab.

This collab for example is a bit different as usual. Normally the comments are only at the end, but you guide everybody already a bit to optimize his take. This approach would be great to really work on these topics. Collab is maybe not the right word .. it's a bit like a classroom


@berko : exactly ... a lot of theory is explained in lessons, but to work on this we are often on our own. To get started with topics like this, some initial guide would be really helpful !

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 20 2009, 12:24 AM

Berko I am with you 100 % on this.

I will talk to Kris and Maria and see what they think of the whole idea.

It would be great to have you in that masterclass for sure !

Posted by: berko Jan 20 2009, 12:27 AM

wooohooo, something big is gonna happen here

with other enthusiastic members no obstacles could stop us...

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 20 2009, 12:28 AM

I agree with you Andy as well !
So if I understood this correctly , I create a lesson over some backing track, and I use Repetition entirely , perhaps another device, like melodic shapes. Now we use that same backing track for Collaboration where you guys are asked you compose or improvise your solo using only these two devices ! I guide you and give you some rhythmic tips, record more solo samples (like I did for Fusion collab today) and I answer your questions. When the final mix is done , I comment and tell what was good and not so good like so far and point you where you need more work.

Am I getting warm or ?

Posted by: berko Jan 20 2009, 12:29 AM

Great concept, was thinking the same as well. Lesson-based "classrooms" could then give a structure to the whole idea.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 20 2009, 12:33 AM

Awesome !
If everything goes as planed, this might start from next collaboration , and I already have tons of stuff planed for you guys to have fun with - I think you will really enjoy it.

One other thing regarding lesson based classrooms... This will be much easier to do and control once I finish my instructor video and get instructor board. I can then open up a specific section that could be called Collaboration Masterclass even Composing, Arranging, Ear Traning, Theory and Harmony etc. I think you get the idea

So I promise to do my best, I will finish lesson on Fusion solo tonight and tomorrow and then I will get to Instructor video next

Posted by: berko Jan 20 2009, 12:36 AM

Sounds yummy so far

You don't have an instructor board yet?? Man, I want to be the first to congratulate, right here!

Posted by: wrk Jan 20 2009, 01:05 AM

Yes, that sounds great !! .. and Lesson-based "classrooms" describes it very well. Where i have to sign-up ?

I noticed you don't have a board now. This would be indeed a good place for this. I hope you can manage this with Kris

Posted by: Zynex Jan 20 2009, 11:17 AM

This sounds sooo awesome! I bet there is ton's to learn from this .

Posted by: David Wallimann Jan 20 2009, 02:03 PM

Great material in this thread!
I'm looking forward to hearing the final result!

Posted by: enforcer Jan 20 2009, 02:06 PM

Yeah! Lets start a Pedja Needs To Have A Board Petition!

This will be great!

Posted by: howermike Jan 20 2009, 06:57 PM

I would like to attend if possible,thanks for the comments again.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 20 2009, 10:45 PM

It will happen soon , I will try before the end of month to have everything done



As soon as I get the board I will let you know for sign up

I am very excited about whole thing actually, can't wait to get started on it...



Great Donny , glad you like the idea



I agree David !



Don't go crazy now

Good things will happen soon



No problem Mike !

Thank you for submitting your take. I just put you on list.

Posted by: wrk Jan 21 2009, 09:18 AM

Here is my second take. Nothing fancy, but more melodic to my ears .. hope i'm not wrong
Unbelievable how much time to spend with only 14 bars and 5 chords

 Pedja_Fusion_collab_wbt_02.mp3 ( 753.61K ) : 235
 Pedja_Fusion_collab_nbt_02.mp3 ( 753.61K ) : 173

Posted by: big harry Jan 21 2009, 12:02 PM

hey guys, very good stuff in here, keep on that good work

seems some like to have "Pedja on board" in here

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 21 2009, 02:21 PM

Nice take Andy !
It is getting warm , 100% toward making changes but the improvement already shows from the last one which is great .

One more week left, you can submit more takes if you want



I agree , some really nice takes so far !

Regarding Pedja on board

Posted by: wrk Jan 21 2009, 03:14 PM

sure .. working on some more takes. Up to the last minute !!
do you have a little hint where to be more careful, i suppose again the F/G, G#7b9 part, right?

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 21 2009, 03:49 PM

Exactly !

Posted by: berko Jan 21 2009, 05:56 PM

Hey Pedja

I decided to upload one of my earlier takes on this one. I modified it a bit though. Some ideas are the same as in my previous take which I still consider as my main one, that's why I'm not going to upload this without BT.

With this take i would like to show you how I had to distract myself from purely sticking to the actual chords and applying straightforward scales to them - and instead incorporating random notes plus some other stuff. So you don't have to comment on this one but it can help when evaluating the other solo

Not to mention it is a clean solo and I didn't find the tone suitable for the final mix since other people recorded their take with a more powerful tone.

 fusion_berko.mp3 ( 604.41K ) : 179

Posted by: Zynex Jan 21 2009, 07:38 PM

Here's my take Pedja . Im pretty statisfied, but maybe I will post another. Of not... just go with this one

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 21 2009, 08:44 PM

Berko I like this take !
I don't see why you didn't upload it in the first place Tone wise , yes I agree you can add some distortion to it in the after mix , but this is very melodic. I can include this in final mix if you want me to - your choice



Thanks for your take Donny

Should I expect another one or ?

Posted by: big harry Jan 21 2009, 09:17 PM

ok guys here we go with the first try
maybe better you close your ears .......

some "blue notes" in it but not so bad i guess

only have it with BT, i tried to do without but seems not to work

so lets see what THE MASTER will say ...

cya
Harry

Posted by: Zynex Jan 21 2009, 09:24 PM

As a matter of fact, here's another take . Clean this time. Maybe that suits better withe the "fusion" theme.

What do you think Pedja?

PS: Harry, I think you got the wrong backing track man

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 21 2009, 09:38 PM

Harry thats nice take, but backing track is from previous collaboration



Donny I sent you PM regarding both takes

Posted by: big harry Jan 21 2009, 09:41 PM

oh seems like i did the wrong one for 2 hours

damn

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 21 2009, 09:43 PM

There is no wrong one That collaboration was very cool , I am glad you had a go at it !
Now you can focus on this one more

Posted by: big harry Jan 21 2009, 09:45 PM

the wrong thing in wrong place .....
tomorrow i will try the CORRECT ONE

cya
Harry

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 21 2009, 09:52 PM

Its all good Harry , don't worry about it

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 22 2009, 12:43 PM

Guys my fusion collaboration solo lesson is published and is live on main page now.

Check it out http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/fusion-collaboration-solo/

Posted by: Velvet Roger Jan 22 2009, 01:09 PM

Great checking it out now

Posted by: David Wallimann Jan 22 2009, 01:38 PM

Cool Pedja!
Thanks!

Posted by: Mandos Jan 22 2009, 01:43 PM

Cheers Pedja.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 22 2009, 02:39 PM

Awesome Roger



You welcome David !




You welcome Mandos


Feel free to leave comments in the feedback guys as I will be checking it frequently

Posted by: big harry Jan 22 2009, 03:01 PM

already bookmarked it man
maybe for some future lessons

cheers
Harry

Posted by: berko Jan 22 2009, 03:09 PM

me too!

I'm gonna learn this as a cooldown for this collab.
Pedja, could you send me the line6 tone for this one? (I'm sure I'll have to adjust it to my hot-signal-high-output humbuckers though...)

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 22 2009, 04:32 PM

Whenever you get to it, just try it out , you have nothing to loose just gain !



Awesome Berko

Here is a tone I used for the solo

Posted by: berko Jan 22 2009, 04:50 PM

Thanks a lot man!

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 22 2009, 05:12 PM

You welcome man !

How does it sound with your guitar ?
Record something short and post it please

Posted by: enforcer Jan 23 2009, 07:10 PM

Here is my second attempt for this collab, it is more melody oriented and I proudly announce that I didnt used any chromatic runs, its all diatonic

Hope you like it

Posted by: big harry Jan 23 2009, 10:49 PM

ok guys here i have now the CORRECT backing and my first run

still have to work on the sound but there are some days left
hope i get my toneport meanwhile
awating your comments Pedja

cya
Harry

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 24 2009, 04:30 AM

I like it Can !
Should I use this one or the first one in final mix ?



Harry I like it more then the first take. I especially like how you handled the last part with modulations (F# min , F/G , G# dim7 A min etC).

I think it shows a lot of improvement.
I will wait for your take when your toneport arrives

Posted by: lcsdds Jan 24 2009, 05:23 AM

I like it Can, but I can tell you are dying to bust out a chromatic shred run!! Good job man!! This is a tough style. I have been working on my take and I feel like a total beginner.


Good job Harry. You are one hard working dude!! I am very impressed. What is your favorite kind of music Harry? If you could play any solo by your favorite guitarist what would it be?

Posted by: enforcer Jan 24 2009, 10:18 AM

To be honest I dont know Pedja, they are nothing alike, I think I really need comments for both Really put on the mix whichever you like. It's up to you



Monte, it was really hard to restrain myself and really I think thats a bad habbit, way before starting that speed exercises, I was playing slow, melodic and lovely, now I dont want to give in to some ultra speedy nonsense well when I listen to it today, I see I was unnecessarily hasty, on this take too Maybe you are right, its because this is a very hard challenge, I dont know, I was hardly able to pull out some lovely slow melodic licks out of these chords... Time will tell

Thank you

Cheers

Posted by: lcsdds Jan 24 2009, 11:32 AM

I think you played quite nicely Can. This is a very difficult chord progression. I also think that this style of playing is outside both of our comfort zones. It is definitely a chord progression that is meant for improvising. I am a horrible improviser. When I try to improvise it always devolves into a shredfest for me. I am much more of a compositional player. I can't just sit and do a take quickly. Maybe my improvising will improve but to be honest I love to sit and compose something.

Posted by: big harry Jan 24 2009, 01:33 PM

thx a lot guys
that means really much to me, it shows me that i can do a lot more on that instrument just with sitting and practicing

Pedja i will do my best, to get it in really nice sound for you
THX for your comment

lcsdds just to answer your question there can be only one answer hehehe, Angus Young
i love his style and specially the ACDC style, it followed me nearly the whole life and i have seen some shows of them
but there are so many players which i like to be able to just some parts of them, Kirk Hammet, Reb Beach from Winger, and many many more

cya guys
Harry

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 24 2009, 01:37 PM

I will see what I can do Can , but I really like how you among couple of other members recorded multiple takes and posted them here. Thats great guys, thank you all for doing that !



Harry you could record same solo when your Toneport arrives if you want to !

Also another thing I didn't mention is, you need to upload two tracks - one where you solo with backing track (which you did) and another one where you just have your guitar without backing.
You can do that in Cubase by muting backing track and exporting just solo guitar

Thanks Harry

Posted by: Toroso Jan 24 2009, 04:55 PM

Here ya go Pedja. This one was hard for me.


 PS_Fusion_Collab_BT_Toroso.mp3 ( 782.13K ) : 211

 PS_Fusion_Collab_NBT_Toroso.mp3 ( 782.13K ) : 188


Thanks for the collab!

Posted by: big harry Jan 24 2009, 05:54 PM

thats the main problem at the moment Pedja
there is always the backing on it, doesnt matter what i do, i wanted to up it as all others but it didnt work
i have a thread in the "recording" section about this problem
hope i can solve it till the 28th Pedja
i will try to get it in time

cya

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 24 2009, 10:01 PM

Thank you Toroso !

I think other members will share that with you but might not want to say it aloud





Can you explain me exact process of how you do it in Cubase ?
I might be able to help you out with that - will try at least !

Posted by: lcsdds Jan 25 2009, 06:06 PM

Very rough take Pedja so ignore the sloppiness. How am I doing with the changes so far? I still have a few days to clean it up and change things if necessary. I am pretty happy with it, just need to practice it a little more and clean it up.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 25 2009, 08:10 PM

Nice take Monte
If you are happy with it keep it if you want to clean it up by all means do so

Thanks

Posted by: Ajmurrell Jan 26 2009, 02:53 PM

Here we go!

 fusion_mixdownWBT.mp3 ( 997.58K ) : 233

 fusion_mixdownNOBT.mp3 ( 997.58K ) : 186


Mic'd up recording from my Dr Z Maz 18

Went for a clean tone, turned out a bit overdriven .

Used your advice as much as I could Pedja, thanks for helping me which pentatonics to use. The only trouble I had was tryin to get a good sound out of the F Min tonic with the G#dim7 chord, so ended up trying to use my ear as best I could.

Hope this is ok

Posted by: Tolek Jan 26 2009, 06:38 PM

So, here is my take.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 26 2009, 08:42 PM

Thanks Adam and Tolek !

I will start mixing on Thursday 29th , couple of more people left to submit before then

Posted by: big harry Jan 26 2009, 08:49 PM

Hey Pedja

i have recorded one take
but if i want to export the take and the backing together it has some latency, so it dont fit together
it sounds pretty good alone and i always was in time when recording it
maybe try to put it in your mix to a backing, and let me know if it fits
i am not able to mix it right

let me know if you need more
thx
harry

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 26 2009, 08:56 PM

Hey Harry

This sounds like you are doing A minor pentatonic trough the whole thing ?
I am not sure how that would fit in over C min and F# min part.

What seems to be problem with recording ? Did your toneport arrive yet ?

Posted by: big harry Jan 26 2009, 09:07 PM

Hey
this is the same that i did a few days ago which you said you like it

i cannot get the take with the backing out together
wrote you a PM





guess i got it

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 26 2009, 11:55 PM

Cool Harry !

I can use this no problem , thanks for submitting your take. I will put you on recorded list now

Posted by: coffeeman Jan 27 2009, 03:13 AM

Hi Pedja,

here is my take:

[attachment=13035:Fusion_C..._with_BT.mp3]

[attachment=13034:Fusion_c...an_no_BT.mp3]

Thanks.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 27 2009, 03:17 AM

Great Andru , thanks a lot !

Posted by: lcsdds Jan 27 2009, 03:37 PM

Here you go Pedja. I cleaned it up a little I think. Maybe not it was early this morning. I'm gonna upload a video and put it as a video response to your lesson as well Pedja. This is my first attempt at fusion and my second collab so be kind.

Posted by: audiopaal Jan 27 2009, 11:12 PM

This was a hard nut to crack really, never played this style before..
I think it turned out ok though

It's a nice and easy solo, no fast finger Fred here

Hope you like it guys


With BT:  pedja_collab_bt.wav ( 10.77MB ) : 141


Without BT:  pedja_collab_nbt.wav ( 10.77MB ) : 116

Posted by: Sondre Jan 28 2009, 05:10 PM

It was hard changing key all the time, but I think it ended up quite ok.

Posted by: Vasilije Vukmirovic Jan 28 2009, 06:52 PM

Finally, my take!

 fusion_collaboration_Pedjajazz_solo_2.mp3 ( 475.23K ) : 261
with backing tracks

 fusion_collaboration_Pedjajazz_solo_bez_pratnje_2.mp3 ( 475.23K ) : 203
without

Posted by: Dexxter Jan 28 2009, 08:50 PM

Here's my take, Pedja Looking forward to comments

[attachment=13089:Dexxter_...n_Collab.mp3]
[attachment=13088:Dexxter_...n_Collab.mp3]

Edit: Somehow my take got halfed in speed when I exported anyway, fixed now

Posted by: Tolek Jan 28 2009, 08:58 PM

Awesome. Seriously, I listened to it at least 30 times now.
Molim te! Kidding.

Ok, 40 times now.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 29 2009, 09:56 AM

Thanks for all your takes guys !

I will put you down on a recorded list and will start mixing today everything

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jan 29 2009, 10:00 AM

Can I still make it, if I record when I get home from work? Took my girlfriend out to some Spoken Word at a pub last night and I was all too tired to record something when I get home.

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 29 2009, 10:03 AM

Sure , go for it Ben.
I will start mixing today and finish up by 31st everything hopefully.

Posted by: Caelumamittendum Jan 29 2009, 06:03 PM

Hope I can still make it!

Posted by: Pedja Simovic Jan 29 2009, 06:54 PM

Cool Ben , thanks a lot for making it !

I will put you on the list now