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Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 8 2008, 12:01 PM

I think that it would be a great idea to have some "luthier lesson". For instance a lesson that explains how to welding a cable, change pickups, add a killswitch booster or similar or similar.
I scalloped my JEM freatboard and I want to do the same with my Ibanez RG 550 so I think it would be a good idea to record all this procedure and explain it in a lesson. (and I will change my pickups and add more controllers in my guitar, hehe)...

What do you think about this idea ??


And also would be awesome to have a professional luthier that show us how to do all this complicated things and to help us if we decide to aply this knowledge biggrin.gif

Posted by: Jerry Arcidiacono Feb 8 2008, 12:14 PM

For me it's a good idea. Especially about a professional luthier. I don't have so many experience as luthier to do this type of lessons smile.gif

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 8 2008, 12:45 PM

yes, the best option is to have a professional Luthier, but if we cannot have a professional one I could do some basic lessons wink.gif


Posted by: Jerry Arcidiacono Feb 8 2008, 12:51 PM

QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Feb 8 2008, 12:45 PM) *
yes, the best option is to have a professional Luthier, but if we cannot have a professional one I could do some basic lessons wink.gif


I'm with you biggrin.gif

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 8 2008, 12:53 PM

yeah, somebody knows a professional luthier ?? tongue.gif

Posted by: Muris Feb 8 2008, 02:15 PM

QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Feb 8 2008, 12:53 PM) *
yeah, somebody knows a professional luthier ?? tongue.gif


I know one but he's too busy to do lessons I'm afraid sad.gif
In a mean while it'd be great if Juan shows us few tricks,awesome idea!! smile.gif

Posted by: Dejan Feb 8 2008, 02:20 PM

The idea is great, would like to see some tips smile.gif

In the meantime, does anyone have a tip how to remove the stains on fretboard, if you check my electric guitar lessons you'll se what I mean. I tried with lemon, and with various cleaning cleaning liquids but couldn't remove it.

Posted by: Muris Feb 8 2008, 02:26 PM

QUOTE (Dejan @ Feb 8 2008, 02:20 PM) *
The idea is great, would like to see some tips smile.gif

In the meantime, does anyone have a tip how to remove the stains on fretboard, if you check my electric guitar lessons you'll se what I mean. I tried with lemon, and with various cleaning cleaning liquids but couldn't remove it.


I do it with FastFret and cloth,isn't easiest job but is possible. smile.gif
Main thing it to remove it every time you change strings,
don't wait too long..

Posted by: Toni Suominen Feb 8 2008, 04:37 PM

This is a great idea, I remember when I needed advice when I wanted to change my pickups etc. so I think this kinds of lessons would be really helpful! smile.gif

Posted by: Dejan Feb 8 2008, 05:05 PM

QUOTE (Muris @ Feb 8 2008, 02:26 PM) *
I do it with FastFret and cloth,isn't easiest job but is possible. smile.gif
Main thing it to remove it every time you change strings,
don't wait too long..


The stains were there when I bought the guitar in 1995, the guitar was made in 89. I don't think they are getting any worse but would like to remove them for good if possible. I'll try with fastfret, thanks for the tip wink.gif

Posted by: Kristofer Dahl Feb 8 2008, 05:11 PM

I think that almost any music related topic would work - if produced with the students in mind. In other words it needs to be very easy to understand! smile.gif

Posted by: Muris Feb 8 2008, 06:46 PM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Feb 8 2008, 05:11 PM) *
I think that almost any music related topic would work - if produced with the students in mind. In other words it needs to be very easy to understand! smile.gif


Loud and clear! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 9 2008, 01:52 AM

THat's a great idea Juan! I'll get starting on an interesting kind of lesson. Not going to tell wath is about but it will be good....wink.gif

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 9 2008, 06:55 AM

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Feb 8 2008, 05:11 PM) *
I think that almost any music related topic would work - if produced with the students in mind. In other words it needs to be very easy to understand! smile.gif


yeah, that's the idea, students are the most important, so I think they would thank that we show how to do basic things on the guitar (not only how to change strings but also basic modifications tongue.gif)


Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 10 2008, 05:57 PM

Great idea on building the guitars, and soldering. I know how to solder, maybe some cable soldering lessons would be appropriate?

Posted by: Muris Feb 10 2008, 06:52 PM

QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Feb 10 2008, 05:57 PM) *
Great idea on building the guitars, and soldering. I know how to solder, maybe some cable soldering lessons would be appropriate?


Pickup/pots,switch soldering maybe??

Not be me of course,but would APPRECIATE to know how to do it!!! smile.gif

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 10 2008, 07:50 PM

soldering cables, changing pots or pickups would be a great begining for this lessons smile.gif

Posted by: Muris Feb 10 2008, 11:35 PM

QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Feb 10 2008, 07:50 PM) *
soldering cables, changing pots or pickups would be a great begining for this lessons smile.gif


Yeah,give it to us man,I suck at soldering BIG TIME!! laugh.gif

Posted by: Bogdan Feb 11 2008, 12:36 AM

This is a very good idea !! I will try to contribute too wink.gif

Posted by: Gerardo Siere Feb 11 2008, 12:46 AM

That´s great. I'd love to see you shoing us tricks that helps us dealing with our guitar. Muy buena idea.

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 11 2008, 08:14 PM

Well, I know how to solder a cable, but don't really know how to change a pot. I'll consider about doing this kind of lesson. It will be interesting.

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 11 2008, 09:18 PM

well, I know to solder a cable and I did it, but I know how to change a pot but I never did it !! hehe, but no problem cos next month I will change my old guitar's one so I could do this review XD

Well, in fact my project is more ambicious, hehehe, I'm gonna change pickups and volume pot and I will add 2 next pots for extra pickups combination, and add another as a killswitch biggrin.gif And I'm gonna scalloped it and install a "tremol-YES" an invention from a Spanish luthier (similar to the tremol-NO but without blocking the bridge tongue.gif)

Posted by: Bogdan Feb 11 2008, 09:21 PM

Thats a big project..Can't wait to see it! wink.gif ehehhe Good luck also! wink.gif

Posted by: Muris Feb 11 2008, 10:12 PM

That's awesome Juan,can't wait to see it!! smile.gif

Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 11 2008, 10:20 PM

Can you record all that Juan. That would surely look awesome my friend:)

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 11 2008, 10:37 PM

hehe, well, you must wait till next month 'cos now I found another house in Girona (where I'm living with my girlfriend), and this 25th February I sign the renting contract (and I must pay 3000 € !!! OMG, I don't know if I will have money to pass this month !!! XD) so when I be in my new home I will start this project.

Well, this is the basic diagram (by Demolition Tatto, www.guitarraprofesional.com)... well, I want to add the killswitch, but that's not the most difficult tongue.gif



Posted by: Milenkovic Ivan Feb 11 2008, 10:45 PM

wow, thats a mighty task man. COngrats on the new house bro! smile.gif

Posted by: Muris Feb 11 2008, 11:01 PM

Congrats Juan,hope you'll collect money for it!! smile.gif

That scheme looks damn nasty,looking forward to your video explanation laugh.gif

Posted by: Bogdan Feb 12 2008, 12:09 AM

Thats some hardcore wiring there !! wink.gif ehhehe

I would never attempt such thing myself smile.gif

Posted by: Muris Feb 12 2008, 01:05 AM

QUOTE (Bogdan @ Feb 12 2008, 12:09 AM) *
I would never attempt such thing myself smile.gif


Actually I'm quite in the mood for some soldering,
Stan is sending me many pickups to try and I always have to carry it
to someone,all I need is some help,motivation is here. wink.gif

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 12 2008, 01:09 AM

QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Feb 11 2008, 10:45 PM) *
wow, thats a mighty task man. COngrats on the new house bro! smile.gif


yes, thas for sure tongue.gif I wish all will end well !!

Muris, I think it will be more difficult to explain this proces than to do it !!! laugh.gif

Bogdan, don't try this in your home without a professional supervision biggrin.gif

Posted by: Muris Feb 12 2008, 01:20 AM

QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Feb 12 2008, 01:09 AM) *
Muris, I think it will be more difficult to explain this proces than to do it !!! laugh.gif


Well than better start working on it NOW....or else dry.gif huh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: Bogdan Feb 12 2008, 01:41 AM

QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Feb 12 2008, 01:09 AM) *
Bogdan, don't try this in your home without a professional supervision biggrin.gif


I surly won't!! Didn't I tell you I actually got my computer on fire once ? Yeah , I bought a new video card and company didn't have it available that particular day so they gave me a temporary one to install smile.gif I always install components by myself in my computer..So ok , I took the card ..plugged it in the AGP slot (agp card there) and screwed everything in place..Leaved the side of my tower open as I always do..Put it on desk, connect all cables..I press the big power button and viola!! My motherboard is on fire and smell is everywhere!!!!! smile.gif There where actual flames in there ...I quickly pulled out the power cable from behind the tower and flames extinguished... smile.gif Its was quite an interesting experience..Company repaired my motherboard (I don't know how , its still in my computer now) and gave me new video card (that one was fried) because I was under warranty (they didn't like that) and we politely discontinued our deal smile.gif

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 12 2008, 01:51 AM

laugh.gif laugh.gif

OMG Bogdan, as you said that's a really "interesting experience" laugh.gif ... mmm I think I will buy a fire-extinguisher before doing my soldering tongue.gif

Posted by: Muris Feb 12 2008, 01:56 AM

QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Feb 12 2008, 01:51 AM) *
laugh.gif laugh.gif

OMG Bogdan, as you said that's a really "interesting experience" laugh.gif ... mmm I think I will buy a fire-extinguisher before doing my soldering tongue.gif


laugh.gif The same situation like in IT Crowd TV show laugh.gif

Guy was doing some soldering and almost burned the whole office laugh.gif

Posted by: Joe Kataldo Feb 12 2008, 09:00 AM

Hey Juan, do you like capacitors on volume pot? I've just installed one on my custom 7 string guitar, I've completely re-made the electronics with copper tape, van de hul silver cables cts pot and bla bla bla : 3 way tele switch, 2 humbackers, 1 volume and a kill switch. The volume pot now works as an high pass filter duo to the capacitor, and when I lower the volume, my pick-up will sound like single coils, I'm planning to remove it

Posted by: Juan M. Valero Feb 12 2008, 02:41 PM

mmm well, I didn't know this... so your guitar didn't have this capacitors ?? mmm I look the Ibanez diagrams and all diagrams I watch have them, so I didn't think in remove them tongue.gif
I really don't have electronic knowledge I just know the basics and I know how to solder and change cables tongue.gif

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