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Sep 14 2008, 04:03 AM
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Sep 12 2008, 04:26 AM)  Based on what I have seen first hand on a 7 billion dollar project..... To think that those in the scientific community would not take chances totally unacceptable to the rest of humanity is wrong thinking. They have great jobs. Often low pressure. Often a lot of fun. And good pay. They live in great places, where if they lost the job, they could not find another one there. Certainly not as good. They have families. A small chance of destruction of the planet is one thing, a big chance of losing the job, having to sell the house and find a job in another city for the wife and 3 kids is another. And between the two, they will take the small chance of destroying mankind. They won't take a 25% chance. But they will take a heck of a bigger chance than 1 in 50 million. I don't believe the 1 in 50 million crap. To the extent they do anything that cannot be demonstrated to occur in nature frequently without destructive effects, the risk is unknown. I go back to my Atomic bomb test. If scientists totally bought into the "I did the calculations and clearly this is impossible" bit, why was the one guy scared when it went off that the atmosphere was being engulfed. IF they do any novel experiment that they have not been able to clearly observe in nature, one that is based only on calculations, a lot of them will try to hide it, but when they still find themselves breathing, they will given an inner sigh of relief. But I don't know if they will be able do do anything like that. With all the crap on internet, it is hard to find. And even having read books on it, it is still hard to know the answer to that. I have heard that they won't, but I am not certain of that. I would like to be certain, but nobody here will be able to tell me that, no matter what their position. And that tells you something. you are the one how may be able to answer my question, but that was not enough, just you saying that. What are your references for that? Do you have something solid and tangible to back it. That is the only real concern, are they going to do anything that does not occur frequently in nature, based only on untested theory. Because if they do that, they are into the unknown, and risk calculations are just guess work then. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-energy_cosmic_ray Now I'm aware that this is a Wiki article and thus may not be as reliable as you'd wish for, but check the external links section, most notably here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-energy_cosmic_ray. You'll see that a particle of estimated energy around 3.2x1020 eV has been recorded, which is far beyond what the LHC can produce. I also found this video, which is a little to technical for my understanding, but it talks about current technological man created eV charged particle levels, compared to cosmic ray energy. http://www.telescopearray.org/movies/wmp250k.wmv Not sure if any of that helped you, I don't pretend to know much about it, but I find it all very very interesting 
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Sep 14 2008, 01:03 PM
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Science is like that,sometimes less risky,sometimes more risky.
I do support experiments like this one cause there are many different theories on how the universe was "born" etc. "Black Hole" still sounds pretty scary and I hope it'll all go smooth without any major consequence. 
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No one should be afraid of this. That would be quite freaky if the world suddenly disappeared, wouldn't it? 
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Sep 14 2008, 02:41 PM
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The only one on earth capable of creating a black hole is Chuck Norris, he just have to kick real hard and fast in the thin blue air, crushing the atoms into such mass a black hole appears.
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Sep 14 2008, 02:54 PM
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If this is true, I doubt that the experiment was the only reason.
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Sep 14 2008, 06:33 PM
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I am shore every thing will go as planed.And we will haw the answers to all the questions here asked.
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Sep 14 2008, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (Nemanja Filipovic @ Sep 14 2008, 12:33 PM) I am shore every thing will go as planed.And we will haw the answers to all the questions here asked. Well, I am only sure because collisions occur at much greater energies do occur frequently in the upper atmosphere. It is not powerful enough to worry about. If it were, if it really could perform experiments that we do not see occurring in nature around us without catastrophic results, you would have cause for concern. Why would you consider it so far fetched that a civilization reaches a point where it has technology capable of destroying a little corner of a Galaxy, because they did not know what they were dealing with? Because they were arrogant and thought they understood things better than they really did. Scientists have always thought they understood things better than they really did. Here is a good book for the layman on that kind of thing. http://www.amazon.com/Short-History-Nearly...8551&sr=8-1 But I don't think we have to worry, yet. Not with this pop gun. But I do believe that they are moving in that direction. |
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