Enforcer-jer Mtp Sessions Thread, yeah this is our place :) |
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Jan 13 2009, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE (jer @ Jan 13 2009, 03:23 PM)  Here is the test video from this morning. THis is just a test of sync and quality, is it good enough for what we are doing. I can zoom in if that helps. Position my camera better, etc.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cihzvn4nYTc I'm getting confused.... What you are writing doesnt match the tab above it. Do you mean this? ----8---7---6---5--------7---6---5-----------6---5--------------5------------------------ -----------------------8--------------8---7-----------8---7---6--------8---7---6---5----- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keeping all 4 fingers down at all times? Np man, my tab writing there was actually showing which notes to play, your tab writing above shows the finger positions, the problem was there, Danilo wrote in GP file the actual finger positions, thats why GP plays it oddly because it thinks these are the tabs for the playing.... Keep your fingers down, thats correct. And what you are gonna do is: position 1: |-1-|-2-|-3-|-4-| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| 5th fret (1-2-3-4 are your fingers and the frets are 5-6-7-8) Here you pick the E string. (you hear 8th fret on E string here) So the tab must be: E--8-- B----- G----- D----- A----- E----- than move your pinky to upper string while keeping the index, middle, ring fingers down position 2: |-1-|-2-|-3-|---| |---|---|---|-4-| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| 5th fret Pick the E string again (you hear 7th fret of E string) so the tab becomes: E--8--7--- B--------- G--------- D--------- A--------- E--------- now move your ring finger next to the pinky, while keeping index, middle and pinky down position 3: |-1-|-2-|---|---| |---|---|-3-|-4-| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| 5th fret Pick the E string again (you hear 6th of E string) so the tab becomes: E--8--7--6-- B----------- G----------- D----------- A----------- E----------- now move your middle finger next to the ring, while keeping index, ring and pinky down position 3: |-1-|---|---|---| |---|-2-|-3-|-4-| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| 5th fret Pick the E string again (you hear here 5th fret on E string) so the tab becomes: E--8--7--6--5-- B-------------- G-------------- D-------------- A-------------- E-------------- then move your index next to others while keeping all the others down. position 3: |---|---|---|---| |-1-|-2-|-3-|-4-| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| 5th fret Here you pick the B string again (you hear here 8th fret on B string) so the tab becomes: E--8--7--6--5----- B--------------8-- G----------------- D----------------- A----------------- E----------------- and repeat this until you reach the lower E string... there you'll have a position like this: |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |---|---|---|---| |-1-|-2-|-3-|-4-| and tab of total exercise (the notes that you hear) would be: -8-7-6-5----------------------------------------- ---------8-7-6-5--------------------------------- -----------------8-7-6-5------------------------- -------------------------8-7-6-5----------------- ---------------------------------8-7-6-5--------- -----------------------------------------8-7-6-5- So what we are going to do here is, 1- Getting to the upper strings leading with pinky and picking the lower string (the string you move your fingers FROM) until we are all the way up, 2- Getting to the lower strings leading with pinky and picking the upper string until we are all the way down, 3- Getting to the upper strings leading with index and picking the upper string(the string you move your fingers TO) until we are all the way up, 4- And finally getting to the lower strings leading with index and picking the upper string until we all the way down... That is to say, 1st exercise is the one above that I described. in the 2nd exercise, you start from the last position of 1st exercise, you do the same but you get form lower E to A by starting with the pinky and picking the 7th fret on E string etc. In the 3rd exercise you start with the first position of the 1st exercise but you start with your index not your pinky and you pick the B string, the string that you actually move your fingers to. And you go all the way up... In the 4th exercise you start with the last position of the 3rd exercise, and you start with your index and you move it to the A string and pick that string. Drop me a line when you got this ok? Later  and a little add, video sync is ok, I see clearly what you are doing there, just you may add some lights facing you for a better fps I guess. But in any case, that is ok
--------------------  incoming spoiler read it at your own risk! Spoiler: it, surely, spoiled me!!! and may the force be with you :) |
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Jan 13 2009, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (jer @ Jan 13 2009, 04:35 PM) We've got about 9 inches laying around right now.... I'm not a real fan of winter either.... I'll be putting in another 75min tonight. Same as last night. 15min strumming (50bpm - This will be my last without adding the Arpeggios in) 15min finger independence (80bpm, I'll go all the way thru the 1 finger exercise) 15min string skipping (whatever speed I can do it corrrectly at) 15min Losfer Words (from beginning thru 1:45) 15min Sanitarium (solo 1 - from beginning thru 1:06 if possible, 15min isn’t much time, its tough for me to even memorize the part in that time) Thats a great plan man, I'll see the results tomorrow morning then, By the way you if you have time, you should check out my visual approach to the modes lesson we may as well make a theory start. I know I dont have to repeat this but, feel free to ask anything... Can -------------------- incoming spoiler read it at your own risk! Spoiler: it, surely, spoiled me!!! and may the force be with you :) |
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Jan 14 2009, 05:34 AM
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My progress tonight.
Strumming is getting a bit better. Still not near where it should be, and no arpeggios yet.... Finger Independence. Am I doing it right? String Skipping - I think this went ok.... Losfer Words - A bit more done. The part after solo 1 is monotonous as hell and I get lost in the arrangement.... Sanitarium - A little bit more down. And yeah, that part is too fast for me tonight. And most nights..... I am speed challenged by slow parts. And it sucks..... Wednesday night I have other plans so I wont be doing anything else til Thursday night. Looking forward to comments here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnY2HE0XMG8 -------------------- My Gear
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Jan 14 2009, 05:47 AM
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QUOTE (jer @ Jan 14 2009, 05:34 AM) My progress tonight. Strumming is getting a bit better. Still not near where it should be, and no arpeggios yet.... Finger Independence. Am I doing it right? String Skipping - I think this went ok.... Losfer Words - A bit more done. The part after solo 1 is monotonous as hell and I get lost in the arrangement.... Sanitarium - A little bit more down. And yeah, that part is too fast for me tonight. And most nights..... I am speed challenged by slow parts. And it sucks..... Wednesday night I have other plans so I wont be doing anything else til Thursday night. Looking forward to comments here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnY2HE0XMG8 nice guitar dude... keep up the practice youll get it... good job --------------------  |
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Jan 14 2009, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (jer @ Jan 14 2009, 06:34 AM) My progress tonight. Strumming is getting a bit better. Still not near where it should be, and no arpeggios yet.... Finger Independence. Am I doing it right? String Skipping - I think this went ok.... Losfer Words - A bit more done. The part after solo 1 is monotonous as hell and I get lost in the arrangement.... Sanitarium - A little bit more down. And yeah, that part is too fast for me tonight. And most nights..... I am speed challenged by slow parts. And it sucks..... Wednesday night I have other plans so I wont be doing anything else til Thursday night. Looking forward to comments here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnY2HE0XMG8 One word. Awesome. You are going really great. Now some comments: 1-In strumming exercise, you nailed the finger positions, now for the next training, when you do strumming alone, I want you to upstrum (I dont know if there is such a word) the chords that are strummed with a upstroke on original video. And you can start to play arpeggios if you feel you are ready. And also there are some timing issues, you tend to strum faster, your starting points are a la tempo but duration of strums shall be constant. 2-Finger Independence exercise was great. You see while keeping you fingers down, it becames quite a challenge, but you got this right, for the next session, I want you to use this as a warm up exercise, and try to nail the next finger independence exercise. 3-For the string skipping exercise, I recommend you to play it along the metronome, and play it a little slower because you see there are some little errors. And also try to work your way on different patterns too. On the video you are doing the 1-3-4 (index-ring-pinky) version there is also 1-2-4 and 1-2-4wide versions to it(index-middle-pinky) (index-middle-pinky wide ) you should try them also next time. And tell Juliette I said hi!  4-Losfer words are ok, rhythm parts nailed, solo is correct. You play it on time, There are still some little timing issues but you will eradicate them in time as you get used to playing. 5-Sanitorium solo was without problem until the fast part. The only way you can nail this is to play this part and this part only along with a slower metronome. Slow down the metronome until you play it without even a little mistake. Then play it like a 50 times. Then increase the tempo gradually. Increase it until you make a mistake. When you do that pull the tempo back to the previous one play it like 20 times, then continue to increase it until you reach the original tempo. Thats the only way to play that faster parts. And alternate pick at all times. The only thing you should economy pick on this solo is the sweepy part before the fast part. Other than that you should alternate pick everything. You are doing great. You lack some bending and vibrato techniques, but we will add them in time. Good job mate and Cheers Can and a little addendum, you may want to shorten your strap a little to reach that lower strings, I know that doesnt look as cool as it would be but our primary purpose is to play guitar better
-------------------- incoming spoiler read it at your own risk! Spoiler: it, surely, spoiled me!!! and may the force be with you :) |
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Jan 16 2009, 06:00 AM
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Week 1 - Day 4
Here we are. I can tell that things are improving. And I can tell that they are improving SLOWLY. But hey, we're 4 days in. And some of this stuff is unlike anything I've ever done. Taking that, and my schedule into consideration and I am happy with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilJSQxzKkIk (DAMMIT!!!!!! - My video got hosed!!!!! Last part of Losfer Words and ALL of Sanitarium got jacked up.) I'll be posting another one tomorrow night and I'll watch it all before deleting the files.... GRRRRRRR!!!!!!) Tomorrow (Friday night) I'll be putting in another hour or so. Then the weekend. I'll get in another 2 hours minimum. That'll end our first week. (since I was out of town last weekend.) ok... I was pissed and squeezed in another Sanitarium clip. DAMN YOU MOVIE MAKER!!!!!! (I need Vegas) I had a couple of beers and got very tired during the editing of the last movie... So this isnt as good.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S8tl4NPAic -------------------- My Gear
Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless "Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?" |
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Jan 16 2009, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (jer @ Jan 16 2009, 07:00 AM) Week 1 - Day 4 Here we are. I can tell that things are improving. And I can tell that they are improving SLOWLY. But hey, we're 4 days in. And some of this stuff is unlike anything I've ever done. Taking that, and my schedule into consideration and I am happy with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilJSQxzKkIk (DAMMIT!!!!!! - My video got hosed!!!!! Last part of Losfer Words and ALL of Sanitarium got jacked up.) I'll be posting another one tomorrow night and I'll watch it all before deleting the files.... GRRRRRRR!!!!!!) Tomorrow (Friday night) I'll be putting in another hour or so. Then the weekend. I'll get in another 2 hours minimum. That'll end our first week. (since I was out of town last weekend.) ok... I was pissed and squeezed in another Sanitarium clip. DAMN YOU MOVIE MAKER!!!!!! (I need Vegas) I had a couple of beers and got very tired during the editing of the last movie... So this isnt as good.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S8tl4NPAic Hey there bro, It was a nice comeback after a long silence Anyway, I couldnt watch you first video, because of a "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation", so movie maker flaws didnt make much of a problem there  This is not your fault and no problem, I know you worked hard for that and you will take a better shot tonight... And there comes the second video, I must say, you are getting better and better, yes, the improvement comes slow, but remember you have been practicing for 4 days and around 1-1.5 hours per day, so you are making this improvement after 6 hours of practice max. So this is great IMO. Ok, how could I say that from only second video? Well I dont know its that 2 and a half beers but, you play more confidently, you got some vibratos improved, the fast part rocked (3rd video), and you had that right feeling there and also you had 3 takes, you did that persistently, that shows your dedication this alone being a good prove that you'll get what you want. Few timing issues as this is slower than original, I know your fingers want to play it at original speed sometimes, especially where its easier to play and it is normal, just try to follow it, I dont know maybe these little timing problems are the sideeffects of beer ... You may get your vibratos more wide, but we will do some exercises about that anyway, so you may focus on getting the solo done, or try to improve them also, your call...I am looking forward to watch your next video, where you'll have all the others to better comment on your progress. Cya and take care, Can edit:typo
This post has been edited by enforcer: Jan 16 2009, 12:08 PM -------------------- incoming spoiler read it at your own risk! Spoiler: it, surely, spoiled me!!! and may the force be with you :) |
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