My First Test Rehearsal, Not a success, I must say... |
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Dec 7 2009, 09:39 PM
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I wouldn't use the word "bad" here. From some viewpoints I'm sure that label would stick but what's really important is that it shows only a lack of experience. And THAT is something you can fix both on your own and here at GMC.
There's a difference between ignoring theory to write your own stuff (which is fine) and ignoring theory while trying to play along with another person. The latter strategy simply doesn't work. If you want to target this particular weakness, you can study theory towards the goal of being able to jam and improvise with someone; this assumes the guys told you what key they were playing in or at least "what the chords are." To achieve this, I'd start with the following selection from Andrew's lessons: How can I tell what key a song is in? Once you learn that, then what? Then you need to know how to play in that key: Relative Minors I'm assuming that you know the minor pentatonic. If I'm right about that, it means that you can leverage just a little information about relative minors to gain a quick boost in your ability to improvise. EDIT: Ok, I just came from your MTP thread and that would suggest your theory should be more than up to the task. Did something else happen? Overcome by the density of the other musicians' output? Froze up? Same results could come from those things as well, or even just a lack of confidence. For confidence, the only cure is to pretend you have it: get out somewhere, stand up, plug in, jam on. This post has been edited by jafomatic: Dec 7 2009, 10:07 PM -------------------- ::jafomatic
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Dec 7 2009, 10:15 PM
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It takes a lot of experience to make a good jam, it's easier if you know the guys and are familiar with how they play.
With enough experience you can "guess" the chord progression, or pick it up quite quickly. Unexperienced it's not that easy. Knowing the pentatonic and common chorprogressions. Hearing how they relate. Practice known songs until you can hear the chord pro, if you know what I mean, and you'll learn how to pick up a songs' chord pro. Experience! Experience! Don't let this get to you. They had more experience playing together, possibly more time with their instruments aswell. Playing in a band is the best school you can find. Try looking for other bands they are at the same level you are. When you're on a try out, play confident and claim your space without being cocky 
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Dec 8 2009, 01:55 AM
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If it was test rehearsal for a local band, than a band should provide you with the songs they play, so you can learn them and try to play them with them. If they didn't do that, this was unprofessional from their side.
If the band wanted to test your improvising skills more than anything else, and they clearly said so before the rehearsal, and you couldn't "catch up" with their playing, then you have some more practicing to do. Don't worry about this, next time be prepared when coming to any form of audition rehearsal. Preparation is half of the work done, and it is a clear sign of a professional musician. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Dec 8 2009, 04:17 AM
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First rehearsal is always tough,
More so if you don't know the songs  The first thing you should do is at least learn the songs and have them very well prepared. Play along with a cd at your place before going so you have a similar idea to what the rehearsal will be like before hand, This post has been edited by Daniel Realpe: Dec 8 2009, 04:18 AM -------------------- Visit my:
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Dec 8 2009, 05:41 AM
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Good for you for going to the tryout in the first place! That seems to me like the hardest step.
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Dec 8 2009, 11:45 PM
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Its very good that you tried! You should go to as many audition you can (once which seem interesting to you of course). Its an valuable experience. Now bands should provide you with info on which songs to learn for audition. They should give you 2-4 songs max to learn and perform with them. If they have another guitar they need to tell you which part should be yours ( rhythm, lead).
You should learn at least 2 songs "very well" and once you meet them tell them you had time to learn those two songs and try to play them with a full band. If they ask you to improvise leads/fills in their songs on the spot, then your improvisation skills will come in place. You should practice that as much as you can and here at GMC we have collaborations/mtp and lots of lessons on that topic so it shouldn't be hard to do. Generally bands on those auditions will asses your personality, skills and how well you prepared and how you're interested in joining their band. Note that those assessments will be very subjective and they may choose someone you least expected Also on auditions VERY good and skilled players get rejected for this and that reason so you should not worry rather go forward and attend other auditions that seem interesting.
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Dec 9 2009, 04:18 AM
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I would ask them to give you, at least, the tabs of the song to learn them. I mean, If I want to try someone to include in my band, I want to see how he plays my songs, but, knowing that they fully-know them mv x
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