How Important Is The Guitar Brand? |
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How Important Is The Guitar Brand? |
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Apr 17 2013, 11:48 PM |
PRS, Fender, Gibson, Ibanez etc etc can make awesome guitars...but they can also make awful ones.....therefore rendering one brand name no better than another....or am I misunderstanding something....i.e. if you have Gibson or PRS on the headstock you will get a good resale value...even if its one of the 'Awful' ones???? I don't think so.... If you have Gibson or Fender on the headstock, especially a 'made in the USA' version, you will never lose money no matter how much of a POS it is (as long as it's in decent condition and you have all the original parts and it hasn't been refinished). There are literally thousands of miserable playing/sounding Strats, Teles, SGs, LPs, etc. from the 70s and 80s that sell for huge dough. Rarely less than double what they went for new. Usually triple. Ibanez, if they're MIJ are creeping up. PRS so far 'holding' value. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Apr 18 2013, 01:14 AM |
Yes ... and no.
An american made Gibson or Fender will always increase in value (whether they're actually a good guitar or not is irrelevant at this point). And so far, history has not demonstrated otherwise. You could/can always find deals on the odd ball models but then eventually some rock star or soon to be rock star plays it and it becomes 'desirable' ... and then the price goes up. Jaguars, Starcasters, Jazzmasters and 'silver burst' Les Pauls are perfect examples. *If you see an amazingly burning guitarist that you know is going to make it - and they play an Aria 'pro II' or Ibanez 'Talman' (or whatever) ... buy 3 of them ... now! This post has been edited by klasaine: Apr 18 2013, 03:35 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Apr 18 2013, 08:47 AM |
This is a very open topic as the view point of a guitar brand must change depending on whether you have bought the guitar to play well or just as an investment or both.
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Apr 18 2013, 04:47 PM |
This is a very open topic as the view point of a guitar brand must change depending on whether you have *bought the guitar to play well or just as an investment or both. Exactly! I guess my point in the discussion is that's it's something to think about ... i.e., If you buy an expensive instrument (OK, that's relative depending on your personal situation) do you think that maybe someday you 'may' want (need?) to sell it? That's all a big 'IF' - ? You have to ultimately make the choice. *Ever since the mid 70s american luthiers knew there was a need for higher quality instruments than those being offered at the time by the 'big 3' (fender, gibson, martin). Hence Charvel, Jackson, Alembic, Paul Reed Smith, Taylor, Santa Cruz, Bourgeois, Pensa Suhr, BC rich, Heritage, G&L, etc. Amps too - Boogie, Matchless, Jim Kelley, Dumble ... For whatever ( un-warranted, illogical, comforting, reminiscent and even dumb) reasons those Big 3 companies still command the highest re-sale value, as well as the historically cultural cache that goes with that. This post has been edited by klasaine: Apr 18 2013, 05:56 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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May 7 2013, 06:58 AM |
So I always suggest buying used. instruments that appreciate have a VERY VERY high entry point as far as most young/starting players are concerned. When most students get in to guitar (from what I've seen as an instructor) the first time (they sometimes get in to again later in life), they are 14-17 years old and often have to wait for Birthday, Christmas for a guitar. Or have to save up money from a part time job. As a result, most get whatever they can afford/manage. In most cases, this is not an American Made instrument. But for those earning a good income, with some money to spend, nice guitars can be an investment. If you develop a good eye, you seek out rare instruments/American made strats from the 60's etc. and make good money selling them. Todd If you do have that bit of extra income I would still suggest buying used (unless you absolutely have to have or need a 'custom' instrument). Lets say you're a discerning player and you love Les Pauls, you've always loved Les Pauls and your dream is to have a black LP custom with gold hardware, block inlays on the fingerboard, split diamond logo and the 3 play binding. Guess what? New, that's $3500.00 US. For that same dough, or probably less if you're willing to be patient, you can get an xlnt condition early 70's LP that 1) probably sounds better and 2) will be worth more than what just you paid for it in less than a year. Hell, you could probably find a re-fin'd 1968 gold top for $3500. Conversely and sadly if you buy a Roger Sadowsky or Tom Anderson guitar for $3500 (two well established and well respected builders of fantastic, high end, custom guitars) it will never ever be worth that in re-sale ever again (don't believe me - check ebay 'sold' listings). One is lucky to get a little more than 1/2. This post has been edited by klasaine: May 7 2013, 07:10 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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